Why is this team obsessed with 4.5 wrs?

[3rdEyewarrior]

Gallup and lamb both run 4.5s. Janes washington runs 4.54. Cooper was the only fast guy and was a great Rt runner and they trade him.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

Because they won't be so far out in front of the ball when it arrives

 

[Bullflop]

Because they won't be so far out in front of the ball when it arrives

LOL -- good one. Let's hope it works. To me, he seems faster than his forty time -- maybe it's his quickness that makes it so.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

LOL -- good one. Let's hope it works. To me, he seems faster than his forty time -- maybe it's his quickness that makes it so.

He’s 313 at 5’11. He should drop 12 pounds.

 

[Cebrin]

Gallup and lamb both run 4.5s. Janes washington runs 4.54. Cooper was the only fast guy and was a great Rt runner and they trade him.

Let's be very clear about one thing. You can run a 4.2 in pro day, but run a 5.4 in pads. Lamb is way faster on the field. Simply having a good 40 yrd dash doesn't make you an explosive receiver. It's just a piece of measure to talent.

Lamb has freakish athletic ability outside of speed (and by no means is a 4.5 slow when you're not even a track guy). He has great feet, space awareness, and above average route skills/hands. Gallup is usally the guy that takes the top off of defenses when healthy, but he's not fast right?

The difference between a 4.4 and 4.5 on the field isn't that big. Unless you're running a 40. Then it comes down to who comes off the line faster and so on.

In terms of on the field, if a receiver can punch you in the chest with two hands, then juke you, and you don't measure up in lateral, and natural agility then all of that straight line speed means nothing. You're burnt.

Look at Micah. Total freak. Can be in the middle of rushing the line, turn on a dime and chase a guy 20 yards down field with a 5-8 yd head start and STILL catch up to bat the ball down.

Those kinda guys don't grow on trees. It's just not that simple. Speed is just one important part of the position.

 

[Bullflop]

He’s 313 at 5’11. He should drop 12 pounds.

Before he performed at the Combine, he was 220 and reduced his weight to 209 lbs. Not sure it helped but he got drafted, so . . .

 

[Flamma]

Gallup and lamb both run 4.5s. Janes washington runs 4.54. Cooper was the only fast guy and was a great Rt runner and they trade him.

That's a good question. I was a super fast WR in my youth, but there were better, slower, WRs. At the pro level you want the better WR. At the pro level cover corners are fast too. Never draft a WR just because of his speed. Cooper had speed and he was good. I don't think Cooper Cupp is a particularly fast WR, but I'd say he's pretty good.

 

[Thomas82]

Let's be very clear about one thing. You can run a 4.2 in pro day, but run a 5.4 in pads. Lamb is way faster on the field. Simply having a good 40 yrd dash doesn't make you an explosive receiver. It's just a piece of measure to talent.

Lamb has freakish athletic ability outside of speed (and by no means is a 4.5 slow when you're not even a track guy). He has great feet, space awareness, and above average route skills/hands. Gallup is usally the guy that takes the top off of defenses when healthy, but he's not fast right?

The difference between a 4.4 and 4.5 on the field isn't that big. Unless you're running a 40. Then it comes down to who comes off the line faster and so on.

In terms of on the field, if a receiver can punch you in the chest with two hands, then juke you, and you don't measure up in lateral, and natural agility then all of that straight line speed means nothing. You're burnt.

Look at Micah. Total freak. Can be in the middle of rushing the line, turn on a dime and chase a guy 20 yards down field with a 5-8 yd head start and STILL catch up to bat the ball down.

Those kinda guys don't grow on trees. It's just not that simple. Speed is just one important part of the position.

Good post!! As a former wide receiver myself, I cosign every word of it.

 

[Cebrin]

Good post!! As a former wide receiver myself, I cosign every word of it.

I played some myself. Not past HS, but I'm no fool to the ins and outs of it. I knew my strengths, weaknesses, and my opponents. I knew I'd never pursue it professionally. Hella fun though, bad knees and all.

 

[CWR]

That's a good question. I was a super fast WR in my youth, but there were better, slower, WRs. At the pro level you want the better WR. At the pro level cover corners are fast too. Never draft a WR just because of his speed. Cooper had speed and he was good. I don't think Cooper Cupp is a particularly fast WR, but I'd say he's pretty good.

Hes not, 4.62 I think.

 

[Captain-Crash]

because our qb has slow to almost no reaction time. you need slow guys so the slow sloth thinker can find and project where the ball needs to go.
read his draft report.

• slow reaction time to reads
• a sloth can react faster than the baby daks reads
• easily frightened

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Gallup and lamb both run 4.5s. Janes washington runs 4.54. Cooper was the only fast guy and was a great Rt runner and they trade him.

If we are being honest…most guys run 4.4 to 4.5….there’s only one Tyreke Hill….

 

[buybuydandavis]

Gallup and lamb both run 4.5s. Janes washington runs 4.54. Cooper was the only fast guy and was a great Rt runner and they trade him.

We're gonna see press man on the edges until Dak and our 4.5+ wrs prove they can reliably beat it. That's how you beat Prescott. The QB who likes separation is not going to see any.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

If we are being honest…most guys run 4.4 to 4.5….there’s only one Tyreke Hill….

Some run 4.4s

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

Good post!! As a former wide receiver myself, I cosign every word of it.

He’s not way faster. He goes against slot corners who usually run 4.5s

 

[Hawkeye19]

We're gonna see press man on the edges until Dak and our 4.5+ wrs prove they can reliably beat it. That's how you beat Prescott. The QB who likes separation is not going to see any.

Which may be exactly why they signed Washington… not the fastest guy, but he has nice size, is decent at contested catches and has strong hands.

If Dak is going to be seeing press coverage— Gallup and Washington are both decent at making tight window catches.

 

[The Natural]

2022 Super bowl MVP Cooper Kupp: 4.62

its about being able to play football, the game isnt played in 40 yard sprints.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Jerry Rice ran a Disputed 4.71. I’d say he ran a 4.51.

 

[Carson]

Let's be very clear about one thing. You can run a 4.2 in pro day, but run a 5.4 in pads. Lamb is way faster on the field. Simply having a good 40 yrd dash doesn't make you an explosive receiver. It's just a piece of measure to talent.

Lamb has freakish athletic ability outside of speed (and by no means is a 4.5 slow when you're not even a track guy). He has great feet, space awareness, and above average route skills/hands. Gallup is usally the guy that takes the top off of defenses when healthy, but he's not fast right?

The difference between a 4.4 and 4.5 on the field isn't that big. Unless you're running a 40. Then it comes down to who comes off the line faster and so on.

In terms of on the field, if a receiver can punch you in the chest with two hands, then juke you, and you don't measure up in lateral, and natural agility then all of that straight line speed means nothing. You're burnt.

Look at Micah. Total freak. Can be in the middle of rushing the line, turn on a dime and chase a guy 20 yards down field with a 5-8 yd head start and STILL catch up to bat the ball down.

Those kinda guys don't grow on trees. It's just not that simple. Speed is just one important part of the position.

Can agree.

College receiver here, who was probably the slowest receiver on the team and looked like the kicker. Yet, always open. Technique goes a long way

 

[shabazz]

That's a good question. I was a super fast WR in my youth, but there were better, slower, WRs. At the pro level you want the better WR. At the pro level cover corners are fast too. Never draft a WR just because of his speed. Cooper had speed and he was good. I don't think Cooper Cupp is a particularly fast WR, but I'd say he's pretty good.

Kupp ran a 4.6 The problem the Cowboys have is not having 4.5 receivers; it’s having the wrong 4.5 receivers