Why Hasn't Dalton Shultz Signed A Long Term Contract Yet

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Yeah I don't get the Schultz hate, the franchise tag is a fair price considering market value was 12+ million a season. I get there are some intriguing names that were out there that signed short term prove it deals, but none are better than Schultz.

I don't know about Shultz hate, but several people on these boards knew our TE would have a very good year before the season started. There were threads on it. Due to the attention other players on offense were getting. As soon as those threats are gone, Shultz will be the player he used to be. But I'm not really worried about a 1 year 10M tag. He'll probably be released next year and we'll draft a TE in 2023.
 

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I don't know about Shultz hate, but several people on these boards knew our TE would have a very good year before the season started. There were threads on it. Due to the attention other players on offense were getting. As soon as those threats are gone, Shultz will be the player he used to be. But I'm not really worried about a 1 year 10M tag. He'll probably be released next year and we'll draft a TE in 2023.
Haha. Let’s see
 

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I don't know about Shultz hate, but several people on these boards knew our TE would have a very good year before the season started. There were threads on it. Due to the attention other players on offense were getting. As soon as those threats are gone, Shultz will be the player he used to be. But I'm not really worried about a 1 year 10M tag. He'll probably be released next year and we'll draft a TE in 2023.

One factor in Schultz’s worth was that the market was very thin at the tight end position which boosted his value. His numbers were solid enough to justify the tag. I’d still be surprised if they don’t sign him long term to lessen the cap hit
 

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I don't know about Shultz hate, but several people on these boards knew our TE would have a very good year before the season started. There were threads on it. Due to the attention other players on offense were getting. As soon as those threats are gone, Shultz will be the player he used to be. But I'm not really worried about a 1 year 10M tag. He'll probably be released next year and we'll draft a TE in 2023.
You forgot the biggie. Schultz creates separation, a rare ability. If the dude can ever learn to be just a decent blocker, he'll be a top 15 TE.
 

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Schultz is a Jag Te that amassed a bunch of stats because of this sdupid scheme and good talent around him.

Most of his production came in blowout games against rest your starters games against Philly, Washington, and the Giants.

Schultz only scored 2 tds in 11 games against non Division opponents and went a span of 9 games with only 1 TD.

He sucks at blocking, he sucks in the red zone, he sucks outside our division, and he sucks when the game is on the line.

He didn't affect not 1 game in the W/L Column and there's 15-20 other tes that coulda put up those #'s in this pass happy checkdown te scheme. And 5-6 for 1/2 the price 11 million dollar price tag.

Cook is twice the te as Schultz and made around 5 million.

There was 5-6 fa tes available for 5 million that were comparable in skillsets regardless of their stats

No winning team is sdupid enough to overtarget a Jag te that has no big play potential when they have 3 wrs and a RB with more upside. Thats one less ball to our game changers.

Some of y'all are saying he's a Top Te but the reality is he's an overtargeted mediocre te that didn't make even one game winning play all season aka the Philly Special.

He'll turn back into the 4 TD a year te when Philly drafts a Linebacker in the 1st round. Lmao

A bunch of meaningless wide open receptions that doesn't win ya games does not put you in a class with the best tes. Sorry
 
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Give schultz his 11 million and draft Jelani woods and pick up Cook for 5 million in fa and throw that 6-7 million out the window.

We need a couple of alpha dog tes that can make gamechanging plays and draw some defenders away from our wrs.

We're not gonna win beans dinking and dunking to Schultz just like we didn't with #82 for 15+ years. And #82 was way better

If Schultz woulda caught 30 balls and our other three wrs would have caught the other 48 balls we might have beaten somebody.

We shoulda been using more 4 wrs formations but we have this infatuation w using a Te on every single passing play

And our mediocre tes always fold like a cheap suit WHEN IT MATTERS

That's what were getting for 11 million. A non game changer
 
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You forgot the biggie. Schultz creates separation, a rare ability. If the dude can ever learn to be just a decent blocker, he'll be a top 15 TE.

I don't know if by the end of the season things changed for defenses, but no defense was going to take Shultz seriously. He never gave anyone reason to. So while we have Gallup, Cooper, and Lamb running around out there, Shultz gets picked up by some MLB in zone. I'm glad he can get separation.
 

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One factor in Schultz’s worth was that the market was very thin at the tight end position which boosted his value. His numbers were solid enough to justify the tag. I’d still be surprised if they don’t sign him long term to lessen the cap hit

What I'm saying is I don't even think he's a good TE. His numbers were a result of circumstance. My guess is the Cowboys are looking to move on from him, why would they sign him long term? To gain another 4-5M in cap space? For what? By June 1st we'll have close to 25M in space. What do the Cowboys need another 5M for?
 

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What I'm saying is I don't even think he's a good TE. His numbers were a result of circumstance. My guess is the Cowboys are looking to move on from him, why would they sign him long term? To gain another 4-5M in cap space? For what? By June 1st we'll have close to 25M in space. What do the Cowboys need another 5M for?

From a purely number driven analysis he’s been solid. He was third in catches, sixth in yards, and fifth in touchdowns among all tight ends last season.

I’m not in love with the amount but like I said, the TE market was thin and there are already so many holes to be filled that I can understand the move to tender him. I’m hoping he will continue to progress and become a bigger part of the offense but I’m sure his blocking skills will only be so effective
 

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amassed a bunch of stats because of this sdupid scheme and good talent around him.

Most of his production came in blowout games against rest your starters games against Philly, Washington, and the Giants.

Do we have to bring up Dakota in every thread?
 

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I know Shultz plays the TE position, but he cannot block at all. He is basically a WR lining up as a TE. On the plus side he seems to always be open and catches most things thrown near him. Given that Shultz is horrible in the running game I wouldn't sign him long term. With DaK as the QB, the offense needs to run a lot more effectively. In order to do that they need a new Center, and new Left Guard, and a TE that can run block.........oh, and young RB. It's bad enough not having talent at these four positions, but it's worse to not have talent and be paying someone big bucks at the position.

In 2023 they'll be able to cut Zeke, and if Shultz doesn't improve his run blocking they need to move on.
 

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read his scouting report. it says he's a great blocker and sucks as a receiver.
 

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Schultz is not a TE, he is the 4th WR that is a descent receiver and the "check down charlie". Dallas paid him this year because they don't have anyone any better.

If they can draft a TE that can catch and block, it will increase their ability to run the ball. Dynamic TE's that can do both well, are much like 1T's that can both stop the run and rush the passer....Hard to find, but everyone thinks they aren't that important.

The value to a team is much higher than the stats provide.
Well said.. In today's NFL a TE that can catch and run like a WR [Kelce, Kittle, Waller] is more valuable than a TE that can only block. Ideally you would prefer to have a player that can provide BOTH skills, but you may have a better shot of finding a needle in a haystack..
 

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There's no way he's playing this year under the franchise tag 10.9 million.. He isn't worth it. From his point of view it's 10.9 million guaranteed for one year, He can bet on himself and get paid again next year. Dallas can A. sign him and get the cap hit down. B. Draft a replacement C. Sign or trade for another TE. Then rescind the tag.
Would not be good cap management to pay a one dimentional TE big dollars.
Now if he bulks up and learns to block, we can reevaluate.
 

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Schultz is trying to emulate the iron man #82 in his prime based upon our scheme. God bless him.

The problem is this never changing checkdown scheme hasnt won beans in 25 years.

The 2nd starting te is usually not very dominate either.

It's just too inconsistent to run every single week for 20 years when you have non gamechanging tes executing it

Sure It works really good against scrub teams in blowout games against inferior division rivals but it seldom ever works at the PLAYOFF LEVEL.

If I'm gonna continue into the future with this bunk everysnap 12/11 passing attack. I'm at least gonna have 2 tes that can draw coverage away from our wrs and make some game changing plays.

I'm going with 2 big alpha dog tes that can go up and get a ball WHEN IT MATTERS.

Id rather run an exclusive 11 formation than this 12/11 scheme. But Ideally I'd like to run more 2 rb formations, and more 10 personnell formations so we were not so monotonous. Esp on 3rd and 26. Lmao.

It doesn't matter who the coaching staff is. This scheme has remained the same. And we just don't have 2 dominate tes that can lead us to any Glory H days.

Defenses have us pegged.

Make our mediocre tes beat ya w checkdown passes until we get down by 3 scores and run the clock out playing prevent defense.

1 te playoff TD in 25 years in a Losing effort is the secret ingredient or blueprint to beating us every week.
 
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What I'm saying is I don't even think he's a good TE. His numbers were a result of circumstance. My guess is the Cowboys are looking to move on from him, why would they sign him long term? To gain another 4-5M in cap space? For what? By June 1st we'll have close to 25M in space. What do the Cowboys need another 5M for?
So when he continues getting open and catching passes, you going to admit you were wrong?
 

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I don't know if by the end of the season things changed for defenses, but no defense was going to take Shultz seriously. He never gave anyone reason to. So while we have Gallup, Cooper, and Lamb running around out there, Shultz gets picked up by some MLB in zone. I'm glad he can get separation.
So, you really don't understand the role separation plays in anyone going out for a pass? Man, that's some strange stuff.
 

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So when he continues getting open and catching passes, you going to admit you were wrong?

Yes. Gladly. If and when we trot out Lamb without Gallup and Cooper, I fully expect Shultz to be who he always was.
 

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There's no way he's playing this year under the franchise tag 10.9 million.. He isn't worth it. From his point of view it's 10.9 million guaranteed for one year, He can bet on himself and get paid again next year. Dallas can A. sign him and get the cap hit down. B. Draft a replacement C. Sign or trade for another TE. Then rescind the tag.
Stephen "lost" the check book?
 
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