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Wrong. It's really not that difficult to identify. Asking for a formal definition, getting the precise answer and still dismissing it paints the picture that you aren't aware or don't want to hear it. But there are plenty that hate on specific players constantly and that's all they post about. It's really not that hard.
The problem is everyone making up their own version of hater....depending on agenda. And so we run around like chickens calling people critical of Dak "hater".

I know...I have been called one. Ridiculous. I most certainly am not. I've asked for proof....with money even!. And they just say "well you are" without any single example.

So some sort of definition should be agreed upon if we are going to continue this nonsense.

For the record, I think terms like "Slobberer" are just as unwarranted.
 

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The problem is everyone making up their own version of hater....depending on agenda. And so we run around like chickens calling people critical of Dak "hater".

I know...I have been called one. Ridiculous. I most certainly am not. I've asked for proof....with money even!. And they just say "well you are" without any single example.

So some sort of definition should be agreed upon if we are going to continue this nonsense.

For the record, I think terms like "Slobberer" are just as unwarranted.
It's simple. You can choose to ignore the facts or maybe you don't pay attention but there are a handful of members here who do nothing but trash specific players. Most fans don't have time or don't care to "prove it" to those demanding receipts. It's exhausting as there is simply so much material to sift through.
Being called a hater because all you do is trash the QB nonstop in every single related thread and derailing threads not even about him should be a common sense matter. But here we are.

I'm not calling you out specifically, but i find it odd that you don't understand the labeling. There is ZERO attempt at a debate or conversation, it's "Dak sucks" nonstop and it's just lame.

But, trolling is allowed and it gets the site attention.
 

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I went by your definition. If they did half a season...they are certainly "CAPABLE".

I picked those two knowing they were your main suspects. It would seem we just agree they, in fact, ARE capable of giving credit. When THEY think it's due.

This is why I asked what defines "hater". It seems when in disagreement, specifically here about performance, value and job satisfaction of Dak. . Not that they actually "hate".

First of all, I've never seen either of them give any credit to the qb. Secondly, to argue they don't hate the qb is laughable.

If you're able to find a post where they credit him, there will be a hundred where they criticize. Do you believe that to be a fair ratio based on his performance since 2016? Again, I've never seen Pappy (in particular) credit Dak. Please post a link if you have one.

I dont believe it's a secret this board is very polar. The truth usually lies in the middle. The majority of posters can manage that. However, there are some who are incapable of dropping their bias, wether it's for or against. Because we **** the bed to end a promising season there has been an increase in the negative arguments so haters are a lot more prominent than fluffers.

If you choose to see everyone on here as objectively fair, then good for you Steve.
 

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You don’t have to win a SB or even play in a SB, but the Cowboys had very good teams and at least once the top team, but never even played in a conference title game. If Dak never plays in a NFCtitle game, his stats will mean nothing to me.

I hear you ! like I said my money is on my QB
 

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Isn't it a "team game"?

I guess only when it's convenient?
It is a team game. How many playoff failures did Tony have?
2007- Should have beaten the Giants
2009- Didn’t show up against the Vikings
2014- Lost against the Pack, should have won.

Didn’t include 2006 FG fumble

Dak
2016 - Home game number 1 seed. Tough for a rookie
2018- got dominated by Rams
2021- No show vs Niners

Tony had his chances to get to a title game. He just never did. Loved his play making and excitement early in his career but it never translated to wins.

Dak is just a slightly worst player than Tony. He will collect his money and won’t get to a title game.
I can get 98% of Dak with Ryan Fitzmagic, but will only cost 8 million.
 

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It's simple. You can choose to ignore the facts or maybe you don't pay attention but there are a handful of members here who do nothing but trash specific players. Most fans don't have time or don't care to "prove it" to those demanding receipts. It's exhausting as there is simply so much material to sift through.
Being called a hater because all you do is trash the QB nonstop in every single related thread and derailing threads not even about him should be a common sense matter. But here we are.

I'm not calling you out specifically, but i find it odd that you don't understand the labeling. There is ZERO attempt at a debate or conversation, it's "Dak sucks" nonstop and it's just lame.

But, trolling is allowed and it gets the site attention.
The fact that there is "so much material"...but difficult and "exhausting" for you to source it...is very telling. If there is so much it should be pretty easy.

I am not saying you need to do it here...I am saying it's what has happened to me .

Here's what I am REALLY saying:...I wish we could tone down the accusations, insults, and name-calling a little bit. Both sides.
 

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It is a team game. How many playoff failures did Tony have?
2007- Should have beaten the Giants
2009- Didn’t show up against the Vikings
2014- Lost against the Pack, should have won.

Didn’t include 2006 FG fumble

Dak
2016 - Home game number 1 seed. Tough for a rookie
2018- got dominated by Rams
2021- No show vs Niners

Tony had his chances to get to a title game. He just never did. Loved his play making and excitement early in his career but it never translated to wins.

Dak is just a slightly worst player than Tony. He will collect his money and won’t get to a title game.
I can get 98% of Dak with Ryan Fitzmagic, but will only cost 8 million.


It's a team game but you assign blame accountability....the loss stat to the QB's. Mkay got it.

I'm good with assessing QB play...what they did or didn't do. But there's a bit of a fine line that is easy to jet across. When you do THIS....it's no longer JUST a QB assessment but team stats:

career wins
playoff record
championship game apperances
SB's played
SB won

QB's much more average than Tony won playoffs games and super bowls.
 

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First of all, I've never seen either of them give any credit to the qb. Secondly, to argue they don't hate the qb is laughable.

If you're able to find a post where they credit him, there will be a hundred where they criticize. Do you believe that to be a fair ratio based on his performance since 2016? Again, I've never seen Pappy (in particular) credit Dak. Please post a link if you have one.

I dont believe it's a secret this board is very polar. The truth usually lies in the middle. The majority of posters can manage that. However, there are some who are incapable of dropping their bias, wether it's for or against. Because we **** the bed to end a promising season there has been an increase in the negative arguments so haters are a lot more prominent than fluffers.

If you choose to see everyone on here as objectively fair, then good for you Steve.
I do choose to give people the benefit of doubt...when I remember to. :cool:

Here is what you said:
Well Steve I'm not the authority on the matter, but I'd define it as someone who is incapable of giving credit, and moves only to criticize.

Dak can be a good QB within the 7-12 range, but the tendency with many is, if he's not Arod he's trash.



If they did it EVEN ONCE....they are ....in your own words "capable". Are prime suspects did it for 6 weeks. Our search function is remarkably clunky....I will see if I can find LAST YEARS posts.

The way I see it....they don't do it ENOUGH for your liking, in the way YOU want them to. That isn't necessarily a "hater" in my book.

I will admit...they sometimes troll the ship out of people about it...and the people WILLINGLY bite. Or maybe they instinctively bite and give them the attention they seek?
 

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Who in the hell is air Corea and Irving?
coreyell?? i don't know how to noir care to spell it correct still you knew what the frack i was saying.was too, late this places times out too quick for corrections sorry , those are the rules..cant post for 20 secs cant come back and fix things after 5 mins chat happens..
 

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The fact that there is "so much material"...but difficult and "exhausting" for you to source it...is very telling. If there is so much it should be pretty easy.

I am not saying you need to do it here...I am saying it's what has happened to me .

Here's what I am REALLY saying:...I wish we could tone down the accusations, insults, and name-calling a little bit. Both sides.
Not really a big deal, maybe it is too you, but no one owes anyone anything. I'm not wasting my time digging to show receipts because it won't matter. There's nothing telling about not caring enough. Just because I remember **** doesn't mean anyone's entitled for me to "prove it." I've been there - done that. caught people in lies, showed the posts and it's completely useless, trolls keep trolling. I even had posts deleted.
So at this point I don't care enough. It's not that important. This place is mostly toxic, minus a few old friends I've had forever.
There isn't a person here or anywhere who could offend me. It's impossible. I really wish that could become clear to some.
Here we are in a Prescott thread and it 100% of the time gets derailed by all the same lame talking points and the thread gets trashed. There needs to be a Prescott forum so people can actually talk football without some tool ruining it because they suck.
 

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Not really a big deal, maybe it is too you, but no one owes anyone anything. I'm not wasting my time digging to show receipts because it won't matter. There's nothing telling about not caring enough. Just because I remember **** doesn't mean anyone's entitled for me to "prove it." I've been there - done that. caught people in lies, showed the posts and it's completely useless, trolls keep trolling. I even had posts deleted.
So at this point I don't care enough. It's not that important. This place is mostly toxic, minus a few old friends I've had forever.
There isn't a person here or anywhere who could offend me. It's impossible. I really wish that could become clear to some.
Here we are in a Prescott thread and it 100% of the time gets derailed by all the same lame talking points and the thread gets trashed. There needs to be a Prescott forum so people can actually talk football without some tool ruining it because they suck.
Haha...I thought it was meant to be a Romo thread.
 
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What's funny? There isn't one quarterback after Aikman listed until Romo & Dak came along. Yet those two killed it in the passing yards & are hated the most. Tells one a lot about a haters intelligence pertaining to top notch quarterback (s). BOOM! Romo is one of the best while hanging w/the best~
 

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Not really a big deal, maybe it is too you, but no one owes anyone anything. I'm not wasting my time digging to show receipts because it won't matter. There's nothing telling about not caring enough. Just because I remember **** doesn't mean anyone's entitled for me to "prove it." I've been there - done that. caught people in lies, showed the posts and it's completely useless, trolls keep trolling. I even had posts deleted.
So at this point I don't care enough. It's not that important. This place is mostly toxic, minus a few old friends I've had forever.
There isn't a person here or anywhere who could offend me. It's impossible. I really wish that could become clear to some.
Here we are in a Prescott thread and it 100% of the time gets derailed by all the same lame talking points and the thread gets trashed. There needs to be a Prescott forum so people can actually talk football without some tool ruining it because they suck.
Alright fine. You just keep calling "everyone" a hater then wonder why it's so toxic.

Maybe set the example and things might improve. Stop the insults and name calling. Don't be part of the toxicity.

Ignoring "trolls" also goes a LONG LONG way into keep things neat and civil.

It's not just a prescott thread....it's a GREAT COWBOYS QB THREAD! Do you see how you think? You get sidetracked pretty easy.

....and not sure that I saw any pure "hate" thing. The people that accuse the haters bring it up WAY WAY more than any kind of real hate. They have to keep the dream of the site teaming with haters alive and well...even when there isn;t any.
 

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Alright fine. You just keep calling "everyone" a hater then wonder why it's so toxic.

Maybe set the example and things might improve. Stop the insults and name calling. Don't be part of the toxicity.

Ignoring "trolls" also goes a LONG LONG way into keep things neat and civil.

It's not just a prescott thread....it's a GREAT COWBOYS QB THREAD! Do you see how you think? You get sidetracked pretty easy.

....and not sure that I saw any pure "hate" thing. The people that accuse the haters bring it up WAY WAY more than any kind of real hate. They have to keep the dream of the site teaming with haters alive and well...even when there isn;t any.
There are some posters who mention "haters" every chance they get, and some (often the same ones) posters who call anyone who doesn't agree with them a "hater", but there are others, like @G2, who use the term only toward those to whom it applies. There most certainly are people here who could watch Dak win every game by himself and still call him "garbage", or a multitude of other names.
 

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Alright fine. You just keep calling "everyone" a hater then wonder why it's so toxic.

Maybe set the example and things might improve. Stop the insults and name calling. Don't be part of the toxicity.

Ignoring "trolls" also goes a LONG LONG way into keep things neat and civil.

It's not just a prescott thread....it's a GREAT COWBOYS QB THREAD! Do you see how you think? You get sidetracked pretty easy.

....and not sure that I saw any pure "hate" thing. The people that accuse the haters bring it up WAY WAY more than any kind of real hate. They have to keep the dream of the site teaming with haters alive and well...even when there isn;t any.
So you recommend I ignore you? :muttley:
 

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There are some posters who mention "haters" every chance they get, and some (often the same ones) posters who call anyone who doesn't agree with them a "hater", but there are others, like @G2, who use the term only toward those to whom it applies. There most certainly are people here who could watch Dak win every game by himself and still call him "garbage", or a multitude of other names.
Thank you for your kind reply. I....we?...make assumptions. Very thoughtful of you to vouch for G2. I take it sincerely.
 

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I do choose to give people the benefit of doubt...when I remember to. :cool:

Here is what you said:




If they did it EVEN ONCE....they are ....in your own words "capable". Are prime suspects did it for 6 weeks. Our search function is remarkably clunky....I will see if I can find LAST YEARS posts.

The way I see it....they don't do it ENOUGH for your liking, in the way YOU want them to. That isn't necessarily a "hater" in my book.

I will admit...they sometimes troll the ship out of people about it...and the people WILLINGLY bite. Or maybe they instinctively bite and give them the attention they seek?

Hell no, I don't believe that for a second. You are telling me now that Pappy complimented Dak for 6 weeks! Lol, na man I need to see it. Please show me.

See it how ever you want. I really don't care. The way I see it you know exactly what a hater is, and are simply looking to argue.
 

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There are some posters who mention "haters" every chance they get, and some (often the same ones) posters who call anyone who doesn't agree with them a "hater", but there are others, like @G2, who use the term only toward those to whom it applies. There most certainly are people here who could watch Dak win every game by himself and still call him "garbage", or a multitude of other names.

I've seen people complain about Daks ball placement on TD passes. So yeah, there absolutely are haters on this very board. Steve knows it too.
 

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Hell no, I don't believe that for a second. You are telling me now that Pappy complimented Dak for 6 weeks! Lol, na man I need to see it. Please show me.

See it how ever you want. I really don't care. The way I see it you know exactly what a hater is, and are simply looking to argue.
I'm pretty sure we are both at the point that we really could not care any less what the other guy thinks, ammirite?

My point all along was not necessarily that pappy loves Dak.

My point is this very loose interpretation of "dak hater". People think they are so cool, tough, and in the know- some sort of cool kids club- throwing it around every chance they think they get.

It's not just Mountaineer and pappy that get. It's been very good loyal fans too. It ain;t right.
 
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