Trevon Diggs. X Factor at WR?

ColeBeasley11

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Good post, that is what this time of year is about...trying new things. 100% Diggs should be one of the WRs in a hail Mary situation.

Diggs should be getting reps at WR just to see what he can do...that's good coaching. Not saying #7 is better than true WR options, but he's worth a look.

Just leave him at CB. I think your over thinking it he’s not Prime.
 

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I have had several special players over the years and when you lean on them too much their production lessens.
 

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How is he slow?
Only person I saw really cook him was DK and of course he’s just a freak of nature lol.

He is not considered a burner ....... he is probably the same speed as all our wide receivers.

Deion was used as a wide receiver a few plays a game not because he was a good pass catcher, but because the defense had to respect his blazing speed as he was much faster than our wr's at the time
 

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Just leave him at CB. I think your over thinking it he’s not Prime.
Yes , I think that is right , let him learn and perfect his craft ( not gambling for INTs only ) and become a shutdown corner.
 

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disagree like Parsons Diggs is muti talented guy and can be as good a wr in spot duty as he is a CB, i guarantee it..just because you havnt seen it doesn't make it true..Dieon did ok as wr I'm betting Diggs can do as good or better.

the only reasons teams did this with players like BO and Dieon is they were willing to risk it , todays salary cap and smaller rosters etc teams have avoided having two way payers but if there ever were any on our team, diggs qualifies. He literally plays the CB spot like a wr!

his balls skills, hands, and the way he runs after and INT shows he can be wr if needed in sport duty, most teams now wont even let their star Wrs return punts anymore..Dieon wouldn't be Dieon in this era..he would be making 28 mil year and teams wouldn't let his be a 3 way player.
Not saying he can't do it, but do we really need him to?

I'd rather have him not gassed when playing corner.

Also a serious injury risk.

Risk vs reward isn't there IMO.

Is this something the team has talked about doing?
 

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Not saying he can't do it, but do we really need him to?

I'd rather have him not gassed when playing corner.

Also a serious injury risk.

Risk vs reward isn't there IMO.

Is this something the team has talked about doing?

NEED not on the regular but in games with stagnate offense late situationally wanting to manufacturer a win, yes like in baseball we've seen pitchers hit and hitters pitch especially in extra innings ..IE 9ers game If we needed spark why not..?that would've taken 9ers by surprise and who knows either a s decoy or make huge play late in that game etc..ie a difference maker....

I mean in the NFL weve seen the qb go out and catch a pass or 1st down or a td, didn't Foles win SB that way? odd guys like Sanders used to pay 3 positions in spot duty but now a fan now believes it can't be done.

risk reward sure that's what we are talking about situationally using guys to be creative and catch team off guard.
 
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NEED not on the regular but in games with stagnate offense late situationally wanting to manufacturer a win, yes like in baseball we've seen pitchers hit and hitters pitch especially in extra innings ..IE 9ers game If we needed spark why not..?that would've taken 9ers by surprise and who knows either a s decoy or make huge play late in that game etc..ie a difference maker....

I mean in the NFL weve seen the qb go out and catch a pass or 1st down or a td, didn't Foles win SB that way? odd guys lie Sanders used to pay 3 positions in spot duty but now a fan now beloves it can't be done.

risk reward sure that's what we are talking about situationally using guys to be creative and catch team off guard.
Well I was talking about it as a regular thing, like him taking regular snaps at WR.

As far as a gimmick type thing to catch a team off guard, sure. Sounds good.
 

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Well I was talking about it as a regular thing, like him taking regular snaps at WR.

As far as a gimmick type thing to catch a team off guard, sure. Sounds good.
lets take some note cards so Moore LOL status quo late in game especially some on the line need addressing.. everting and the kitchen sink needs to be used to win games..:muttley:o_O:rolleyes:

weve seen packages where cooper on the bench late in a series at the end of game etc etc what we need is better use of our stars like being discussed with pollard and others.chess not checkers!:popcorn:
 

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Just leave him at CB. I think your over thinking it he’s not Prime.
I know who Diggs is, and I know Prime never got 11 picks in a season.

You name me 4 Wrs/TEs on the Cowboys better than Diggs to have attempting to catch a hail mary pass.
 

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while interesting ie Parsons looks like a Bo knows guy, a big no.. makes more sense of Diggs..parsons is already playing the wheres waldo all over the defense and he goes 100% on every play. I rather give Diggs a shot here and there at being his brother LOL
 

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I had BJ Emmons for four years. He plays on The Tampa bay Bandits now as one of the two running backs.

I played him on Offense and Defense one year because he was simply the best player on the field and i wore him down. Didn't have the same burst as my main back.


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Ive been lucky enough to have a few others.
 
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I had BJ Emmons for four years. He plays on The Tampa bay Bandits now as one of the two running backs.

I played him on Offense and Defense one year because he was simply the best player on the field and i wore him down. Didn't have the same burst as my main back.
Is your name Bum Phillips?
 

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I know who Diggs is, and I know Prime never got 11 picks in a season.

You name me 4 Wrs/TEs on the Cowboys better than Diggs to have attempting to catch a hail mary pass.
Because QBs didn't throw at Deion very often.

The risk/reward for QBs with Diggs keeps them targetting him despite the INTs because he gave up a huge amount of yards and some TDs.

Diggs style is going to be dependent on surrounding players, especially the FS. Many D-Coordinators would not have allowed him to play that style after a few of those big plays against him, but Quinn has a "feel" for the game and players.

One of the top needs on defense last season was an upgrade at FS. I think Quinn kept Hooker's snaps limited because he was coming off injury to start the season and has been injury prone. That meant Kazee as the starting FS; although, unlike most starting Free Safeties, he didn't always play all the snaps.
 

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while interesting ie Parsons looks like a Bo knows guy, a big no.. makes more sense of Diggs..parsons is already playing the wheres waldo all over the defense and he goes 100% on every play. I rather give Diggs a shot here and there at being his brother LOL
Funny, it occurred to me recently that Parsons is a Bo Jackson type freak of freak athletes.

Bo always seemed huge for a freak speed player but he was 6-1, 225; whereas, Parsons is 6-3 and reportedly played at 246. Obviously Parsons does run a 4.1 forty but 4.3 at 246 is amazing.
 

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Sounds crazy but I'm talking about 3-5 plays a game on offense.

He was a WR in high school with back to back thousand yard seasons his junior and senior year.

At the most recent Pro Bowl competitions, Diggs won 1st place in a receiving contest and was the only defensive player in the competition.

Perhaps he shares some of the same attributes as a 1st team All Pro and one of the most prolific receivers in the present day NFL, none other than his brother.

Just another potential weapon for occasional sit Stefon.

I believe he has legitimate receiving skills and could help the Cowboys in certain situations. He's got great hands and is extremely competitive. His experience as a 1st team All Pro cornerback could help him against his defensive opponents.

If the Cowboys feel like they don't have sufficient WR talent in certain situations, perhaps Diggs could help them. It doesn't have to be a designed play for him but he would still have to be considered a legitimate threat and i think he would be.

Four receiver sets, Hail Mary passes into the endzone at the end of a half, and 3rd and long plays are situations where he may be able to help, any play where good hands are critical.Again, I'm not talking about any kind of leading role, just another option to consider.
If Diggs is better at WR than Tolbert or James Washington then there is a problem.

If they need another WR, they'll use Pollard and use more 2 TE sets.

From a practice perspective, I think having a DB spend a week or two of camp at WR would be a good option. Veteran DBs are always looking for any small detail that might benefit their game.

Definitely having Pollard practice all off-season at WR would be beneficial. A RB that can run the full route tree and has a true WR understanding of the offense, is a great asset. It forces defenses to respect that player as a WR. The Cowboys had Diggs up in the box when Deebo was at RB. That is not good for run defense.
 

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Don't understand why people keep on bring up defensive players as receivers. Outside of Prime, who has successful done it since? Why risk injuries to the likes of our two best defensive players in Diggs and Parsons?
 
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