Gregory got screwed

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I'm looking at it this way....

Elliott getting six games was a clear overreaction and mistake.

I don't think the league should use a mistake as a standard, or use six games for a maybe assault as basis.

It sucks for us, and it ruined any shot we may have had in 2017.

If anything this makes me SMH at how good Elliott used to be. Sad, but thats the nature of that position.
Elliott’s suspension was not mistake. It was pushed by Mara and his 6 owner power group. Just like with the collusion BS he pulled with the Cowboys and Washington In 2011. Big Rog is nothing but a puppet for them.
 

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Not only did Zeke get screwed, but Randy Gregory got screwed worse than the two of them. How does Watson get less time than Gregory when all Gregory did, in comparison to Watson, was smoke weed? This makes no sense. So, is the NFL saying that weed is worse than what Watson had to settle with 23 women over?
One plays for the browns the others Dallas case closed.
Don’t tick off heir Godell
 

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Again , remember Goodell wanted a year suspension and longer.

I agree the trials could expose more evidence. And why I believe the league was arguing for an indefinite suspension .

My hunch from this is this 6 game suspension was based on what we know now. And if more comes out next year in these trials then Watson could face more discipline.

The league for the moment has done all they could arguing for more punishment. This clears them of any preferences or lack of stricter discipline. It’s likely they accept and move on keeping a close on on upcoming trials.

I am not sure I understand this, at the end of the day Goodell has the final say on what punishment will be handed down. And the problem is, Watson is being punished for his past infractions. Even if more comes out about the past then won't new information just be part of the old information for which he was already suspended? How can the league argue new information is worse than what we already have heard at that point?
 

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Not only did Zeke get screwed, but Randy Gregory got screwed worse than the two of them. How does Watson get less time than Gregory when all Gregory did, in comparison to Watson, was smoke weed? This makes no sense. So, is the NFL saying that weed is worse than what Watson had to settle with 23 women over?
It's truly mind boggling that this dude has gotten away with abusing this many women and they slapped his hand for it. Too many women came forward with complaints and this perverted SOB has pretty much gotten away as a serial women abuser. The NFL should have taken a page out of the MLB play book on how they handled the Trevor Bauer issue. There's a distinct possibility that he may never throw another pitch again and that's fine with me!
 

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I am not sure I understand this, at the end of the day Goodell has the final say on what punishment will be handed down. And the problem is, Watson is being punished for his past infractions. Even if more comes out about the past then won't new information just be part of the old information for which he was already suspended? How can the league argue new information is worse than what we already have heard at that point?
I’d argue if more damaging evidence comes out it in the trials it could bring more discipline.

And Goodell can appeal the decision. But the league brought in an arbitrator to take the heat off of Goodell. I can’t see them wanting to overturn the first decision. It might have been different if they didn’t rule any suspension.

I think most expected the arbitrator rulings wouldn’t be as tough as Goodell.
 

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Not only did Zeke get screwed, but Randy Gregory got screwed worse than the two of them. How does Watson get less time than Gregory when all Gregory did, in comparison to Watson, was smoke weed? This makes no sense. So, is the NFL saying that weed is worse than what Watson had to settle with 23 women over?
America has shifted quite a bit in the last 24 months. Plus the league always takes its shot against Dallas.
 

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America has shifted quite a bit in the last 24 months. Plus the league always takes its shot against Dallas.
In some ways with an owner like ours who often takes on the league and has had history with more than their share of problem players I think we should expect harsher decisions on the Cowboys.
 

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I'm looking at it this way....

Elliott getting six games was a clear overreaction and mistake.

I don't think the league should use a mistake as a standard, or use six games for a maybe assault as basis.

It sucks for us, and it ruined any shot we may have had in 2017.

If anything this makes me SMH at how good Elliott used to be. Sad, but thats the nature of that position.

I agree. My only guess is that the league came down hard on Zeke because that was during the height of the Metoo movement. That could have influenced the severity of the league's decision. Now it appears that Metoo has gone away thanks to Amber Heard lol

Regardless Watsons punishment was a slap on the wrist.
 

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Gregory screwed himself. He failed multiple drug tests over several years. He knew he was breaking the rules and did it anyways. I have zero sympathy for him.

Zeke we all knew he was screwed the first time he was suspended. The league wanted to make up for the ray rice incident and used Zeke to do it. It's the same unfair punishment now, as it was then. Watson case changes nothing.

All Watsons case has done is show that having a fair and impartial judge to review punishments is the most sensible thing, and shows how stupid the nflpa was to not having this done before now. So I blame no one but the nflpa for allowing the league to wield this much power over punishments for so long.
 

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Elliott’s suspension was not mistake. It was pushed by Mara and his 6 owner power group. Just like with the collusion BS he pulled with the Cowboys and Washington In 2011. Big Rog is nothing but a puppet for them.
Sure it was....because Elliott didn't do much at all and nothing was proven or even close.

It was a clear overreaction to the way Goodell bungled the Ray Rice thing and caught hell for it.

So, relatively speaking....if what Elliott did was worth six games, what Watson did was an entire season at a minimum, but that's probably too much. Nothing was ever proven there either.

What happens next time someone dies and a player is a suspect? Three years?

The Elliott suspension is always going to be at least 4 games too long.
 

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Not only did Zeke get screwed, but Randy Gregory got screwed worse than the two of them. How does Watson get less time than Gregory when all Gregory did, in comparison to Watson, was smoke weed? This makes no sense. So, is the NFL saying that weed is worse than what Watson had to settle with 23 women over?

Rules were set out and agreed upon between the league and the Players association.....Gregory had numerous chances and continued to fail at adhering to the NFL substance program so it's all on him!
 

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I would feel more sympathy for Zeke if he didn't have so many bad decisions and incidents that surrounded the one that got him suspended.
 

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I’d argue if more damaging evidence comes out it in the trials it could bring more discipline.

And Goodell can appeal the decision. But the league brought in an arbitrator to take the heat off of Goodell. I can’t see them wanting to overturn the first decision. It might have been different if they didn’t rule any suspension.

I think most expected the arbitrator rulings wouldn’t be as tough as Goodell.

You might be right, but for the sake of justice if more comes out I do hope they bring down a harsher punishment.
 

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I think Zeke was used to sending a message after the league was still feeling the effect of how they screwed up the Ray Rice case.

Zeke wasn't even playing in the NFL when this stuff around him happened.
 

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Be interesting to see how the appeal from the NFL is handled.
 

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Not only did Zeke get screwed, but Randy Gregory got screwed worse than the two of them. How does Watson get less time than Gregory when all Gregory did, in comparison to Watson, was smoke weed? This makes no sense. So, is the NFL saying that weed is worse than what Watson had to settle with 23 women over?
This is Not the NFL, who wanted at least a full year. This is the judge who ruled that Watson definitely abused the women, but not with violence. The judge says it’s clear he violated the policy and hurt the NFL brand, but she went with 6 games because that was the lenient sentence set by the NFL for past infractions and based on the most recent CBA. It’s definitely a travesty in my opinion, especially since Watson still claims he did nothing wrong and accepts no responsibility. This will be a story that will keep on giving….bank on it.
 
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