CFZ Jerry knows how to run a fun camp for fans, the Rams don't

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Took a trip to UC Irvine to attend the Rams camp today, and will never go to a Rams camp again. Practice for the Rams starts at 12:30 local time and runs until 3:00 during what is the hottest part of the day in California, vs. Cowboys practices starting at 10 or 11 in the cooler Oxnard climate. That's just the start of it though.

Both times I've been to camp in Oxnard so far, I've been able to find free street parking about a 10 minute walk from the gates. UC Irvine you are not going to find any such thing, and pay $18 for a 15 to 20 minute walk from the gates. Once I got to the gates there was a huge line line. Rams fans were making comments how it felt like standing in line for Space Mountain at Disneyland. Total time standing in line was 45 minutes. When I went to the Cowboys camps on July 30th, and August 3rd I was easily in the camp within 10 minutes. To be fair, I have the United membership, so experience might be different for non-members.

I get through the ticket check in finally, and get to the metal detectors. I have an old zippo lighter that is my lucky lighter I put on the tray before going through the metal detector. Security looks at it, and tells me I have to throw it away if I want to go inside. I am dumbfounded. No way in hell I am throwing my zippo I've had for years. If it was a bic, I wouldn't have cared, but not my zippo. Cowboys camp they didn't have a problem with it. Rams camp. Rams rules. They tell me to go take it back to my car, but give me a stamp so I don't have to wait in line again.

I finally walk into Ram world, and it is grossly over crowded. Last Saturday I thought there were a lot of people at Cowboys camp for the festivities. Rams camp was easily 2 to 3 times the size of that crowd. They just kept packing them in like sardines. By the way, once you are in past the games, you have about another 10 minute walk with the crowd to get to the field. I got to see Stafford do a few plays through much obstructed views before they pulled him. It was about 40 minutes before I found a spot where I had a great unobstructed view. People were already leaving, because it looked like they already had enough with the over crowding. I stayed in that spot about 40 minutes before I had enough. It was hot, not much fun, and this isn't my team anyhow.

So we have 2 to 3 times the crowd of the Cowboys camp of last Saturday, long walk, long line to get in, can it get any worse? Yes. There are also fewer restroom facilities for more than twice the amount of people. No lines for Cowboys port-o-potties. Very long lines if you have to use the restrooms at Rams camp, and not much for washing stations. I thought lines for concessions and the shop at Cowboys camp were silly. The Rams say "hold my beer" when it comes to that.

I actually feel bad for Rams fans after seeing their training camp experience vs. what Jerry gives us. Say what you want about Jones, he does an A-1 job with his training camp. I'm supposed to go to Chargers training camp on Wednesday, but now think I will just attend Cowboys final practice day in Oxnard on Tuesday. I live in central L.A., and Chargers camp starts at 9:00 AM. I don't feel like waking up with the birds to fight through L.A. and Orange County rush hour traffic on a trip to Costa Mesa. I'll do it next season, and do it right by staying somewhere in Costa Mesa the night before.

If I see Jerry on Tuesday I'm going to thank him for choosing Oxnard, and running things the way they do at camp. Just no more mock practices please.
 

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Took a trip to UC Irvine to attend the Rams camp today, and will never go to a Rams camp again. Practice for the Rams starts at 12:30 local time and runs until 3:00 during what is the hottest part of the day in California, vs. Cowboys practices starting at 10 or 11 in the cooler Oxnard climate. That's just the start of it though.

Both times I've been to camp in Oxnard so far, I've been able to find free street parking about a 10 minute walk from the gates. UC Irvine you are not going to find any such thing, and pay $18 for a 15 to 20 minute walk from the gates. Once I got to the gates there was a huge line line. Rams fans were making comments how it felt like standing in line for Space Mountain at Disneyland. Total time standing in line was 45 minutes. When I went to the Cowboys camps on July 30th, and August 3rd I was easily in the camp within 10 minutes. To be fair, I have the United membership, so experience might be different for non-members.

I get through the ticket check in finally, and get to the metal detectors. I have an old zippo lighter that is my lucky lighter I put on the tray before going through the metal detector. Security looks at it, and tells me I have to throw it away if I want to go inside. I am dumbfounded. No way in hell I am throwing my zippo I've had for years. If it was a bic, I wouldn't have cared, but not my zippo. Cowboys camp they didn't have a problem with it. Rams camp. Rams rules. They tell me to go take it back to my car, but give me a stamp so I don't have to wait in line again.

I finally walk into Ram world, and it is grossly over crowded. Last Saturday I thought there were a lot of people at Cowboys camp for the festivities. Rams camp was easily 2 to 3 times the size of that crowd. They just kept packing them in like sardines. By the way, once you are in past the games, you have about another 10 minute walk with the crowd to get to the field. I got to see Stafford do a few plays through much obstructed views before they pulled him. It was about 40 minutes before I found a spot where I had a great unobstructed view. People were already leaving, because it looked like they already had enough with the over crowding. I stayed in that spot about 40 minutes before I had enough. It was hot, not much fun, and this isn't my team anyhow.

So we have 2 to 3 times the crowd of the Cowboys camp of last Saturday, long walk, long line to get in, can it get any worse? Yes. There are also fewer restroom facilities for more than twice the amount of people. No lines for Cowboys port-o-potties. Very long lines if you have to use the restrooms at Rams camp, and not much for washing stations. I thought lines for concessions and the shop at Cowboys camp were silly. The Rams say "hold my beer" when it comes to that.

I actually feel bad for Rams fans after seeing their training camp experience vs. what Jerry gives us. Say what you want about Jones, he does an A-1 job with his training camp. I'm supposed to go to Chargers training camp on Wednesday, but now think I will just attend Cowboys final practice day in Oxnard on Tuesday. I live in central L.A., and Chargers camp starts at 9:00 AM. I don't feel like waking up with the birds to fight through L.A. and Orange County rush hour traffic on a trip to Costa Mesa. I'll do it next season, and do it right by staying somewhere in Costa Mesa the night before.

If I see Jerry on Tuesday I'm going to thank him for choosing Oxnard, and running things the way they do at camp. Just no more mock practices please.
I already had a strong suspicion the Cowboys camp is a better experience. I'm glad you went to Rams Training Camp to find out for yourselff what that experience would be like. That's how we learn so god bless you for being interested enough to find out the hard way which training camp is going to be the better experience as a football fan. Cowboys Training Camp in Oxnard is a great experience. I've been to every location the Cowboys have had training camp since the mid-80s...

2021-2022 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
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2002-2003 Alamodome San Antonio Texas
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I already had a strong suspicion the Cowboys camp is a better experience. I'm glad you went to Rams Training Camp to find out for yourselff what that experience would be like. That's how we learn so god bless you for being interested enough to find out the hard way which training camp is going to be the better experience as a football fan. Cowboys Training Camp in Oxnard is a great experience. I've been to every location the Cowboys have had training camp since the mid-80s...

2021-2022 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
2020-2020 The Star in Frisco Frisco Texas
2012-2019 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
2009&2011 Alamodome San Antonio Texas
2010-2010 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
2008-2008 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
2007-2007 Alamodome San Antonio Texas
2004-2006 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
2002-2003 Alamodome San Antonio Texas
2001-2001 River Ridge Playing Fields Oxnard California
1998-2001 Midwestern State University Wichita Falls Texas
1990-1997 St. Edward's University Austin Texas
1963-1989 California Lutheran College Thousand Oaks California
I'm going to give the Chargers camp a try, it just won't be this season. The 405 traffic is just ridiculous to even attempt it in the morning rush hour on a Wednesday unless I want to leave at the ungodly hour of 6 in the morning for a 9:00 AM practice. Cowboys camp next season, and giving the Chargers a day at camp as well, but getting a hotel room in Costa Mesa ahead of time.

This is my warning to Cowboys fans. As long as the Rams have camp at UC-Irvine, don't bother wasting your time. There are much better things to do in Southern California than that hot garbage. I'm gonna try to make a twatter account to show my camp footage so far.
 

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LOL! Looking at what video I captured at Rams camp, I got video of Aaron Donald putting his hand around what looks like a coaches neck. That guy doesn't stop. Wish I could upload it here.

Edit: Just posted it to Reddit. AD really can't help himself with putting his hands around peoples throats. I captured snippets of footage during the day, but didn't notice it until after going through all of it tonight.

https://www.cowboyszone.com/comments/wicq29/so_i_go_to_a_rams_practice/
 
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I'm going to give the Chargers camp a try, it just won't be this season. The 405 traffic is just ridiculous to even attempt it in the morning rush hour on a Wednesday unless I want to leave at the ungodly hour of 6 in the morning for a 9:00 AM practice. Cowboys camp next season, and giving the Chargers a day at camp as well, but getting a hotel room in Costa Mesa ahead of time.

This is my warning to Cowboys fans. As long as the Rams have camp at UC-Irvine, don't bother wasting your time. There are much better things to do in Southern California than that hot garbage. I'm gonna try to make a twatter account to show my camp footage so far.
Keep up the great training camp posts. We'll get a good look at the Chargers soon enough. I can't wait to see how that goes.
 

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LOL! Looking at what video I captured at Rams camp, I got video of Aaron Donald putting his hand around what looks like a coaches neck. That guy doesn't stop. Wish I could upload it here.

Edit: Just posted it to Reddit. AD really can't help himself with putting his hands around peoples throats. I captured snippets of footage during the day, but didn't notice it until after going through all of it tonight.

https://www.cowboyszone.com/comments/wicq29/so_i_go_to_a_rams_practice/
Not working here, but I posted to Reddit. Once again, Aaron Donald putting his hands on some ones throat. Didn't notice when I was filming it.
 

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Camp is supposed to be about making the team better.

Not about making it Disney world for the fans.

Fan involvement does not help this football team and most likely hurts it.

Finally a good post from you.
 

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Weirdo. And how does giving the fans awful experiences help the team?
How does letting fans interact and be all over the team in practice help the team?
This is part of the circus that has been happening to this team since Jimmy left.
 

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How does letting fans interact and be all over the team in practice help the team?
This is part of the circus that has been happening to this team since Jimmy left.
Counter question is how does it hurt? The Jets make their fans miserable all the time, and how many Lombardis do they have? You think if the Cowboys have practice in Area 51 they gonna go to the Super Bowl?
 

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Counter question is how does it hurt? The Jets make their fans miserable all the time, and how many Lombardis do they have? You think if the Cowboys have practice in Area 51 they gonna go to the Super Bowl?
The reason teams hold camp away from home is so the players can avoid outside distractions and focus on football ...... Since Jerry has been large and in charge that cannot happen because he turns everything into a damn show.

If you cannot see that then I will not be able to explain it to you.
 

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How does letting fans interact and be all over the team in practice help the team?
This is part of the circus that has been happening to this team since Jimmy left.
Don't you think jimmy had a hand in creating that circus? He allowed his team to have a coke/hooker house right next to valley ranch. Then bailed on his players and left the culture
 

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The reason teams hold camp away from home is so the players can avoid outside distractions and focus on football ...... Since Jerry has been large and in charge that cannot happen because he turns everything into a damn show.

If you cannot see that then I will not be able to explain it to you.
The reason the Cowboys don't have practice in Texas is because of triple digit weather. I lived 20 years in Austin. They don't have practice at St. Edwards for a reason. That reason isn't because fans love them so much there. Keep riding that hill you're on though.
 

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Took a trip to UC Irvine to attend the Rams camp today, and will never go to a Rams camp again. Practice for the Rams starts at 12:30 local time and runs until 3:00 during what is the hottest part of the day in California, vs. Cowboys practices starting at 10 or 11 in the cooler Oxnard climate. That's just the start of it though.

Both times I've been to camp in Oxnard so far, I've been able to find free street parking about a 10 minute walk from the gates. UC Irvine you are not going to find any such thing, and pay $18 for a 15 to 20 minute walk from the gates. Once I got to the gates there was a huge line line. Rams fans were making comments how it felt like standing in line for Space Mountain at Disneyland. Total time standing in line was 45 minutes. When I went to the Cowboys camps on July 30th, and August 3rd I was easily in the camp within 10 minutes. To be fair, I have the United membership, so experience might be different for non-members.

I get through the ticket check in finally, and get to the metal detectors. I have an old zippo lighter that is my lucky lighter I put on the tray before going through the metal detector. Security looks at it, and tells me I have to throw it away if I want to go inside. I am dumbfounded. No way in hell I am throwing my zippo I've had for years. If it was a bic, I wouldn't have cared, but not my zippo. Cowboys camp they didn't have a problem with it. Rams camp. Rams rules. They tell me to go take it back to my car, but give me a stamp so I don't have to wait in line again.

I finally walk into Ram world, and it is grossly over crowded. Last Saturday I thought there were a lot of people at Cowboys camp for the festivities. Rams camp was easily 2 to 3 times the size of that crowd. They just kept packing them in like sardines. By the way, once you are in past the games, you have about another 10 minute walk with the crowd to get to the field. I got to see Stafford do a few plays through much obstructed views before they pulled him. It was about 40 minutes before I found a spot where I had a great unobstructed view. People were already leaving, because it looked like they already had enough with the over crowding. I stayed in that spot about 40 minutes before I had enough. It was hot, not much fun, and this isn't my team anyhow.

So we have 2 to 3 times the crowd of the Cowboys camp of last Saturday, long walk, long line to get in, can it get any worse? Yes. There are also fewer restroom facilities for more than twice the amount of people. No lines for Cowboys port-o-potties. Very long lines if you have to use the restrooms at Rams camp, and not much for washing stations. I thought lines for concessions and the shop at Cowboys camp were silly. The Rams say "hold my beer" when it comes to that.

I actually feel bad for Rams fans after seeing their training camp experience vs. what Jerry gives us. Say what you want about Jones, he does an A-1 job with his training camp. I'm supposed to go to Chargers training camp on Wednesday, but now think I will just attend Cowboys final practice day in Oxnard on Tuesday. I live in central L.A., and Chargers camp starts at 9:00 AM. I don't feel like waking up with the birds to fight through L.A. and Orange County rush hour traffic on a trip to Costa Mesa. I'll do it next season, and do it right by staying somewhere in Costa Mesa the night before.

If I see Jerry on Tuesday I'm going to thank him for choosing Oxnard, and running things the way they do at camp. Just no more mock practices please.

I would not wait 45 minutes in line to watch any team practice. Each their own, but if you learned a lesson about watching practices that is good. Focus on Dallas moving forward.
 

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I would not wait 45 minutes in line to watch any team practice. Each their own, but if you learned a lesson about watching practices that is good. Focus on Dallas moving forward.
I’ve been to Steelers camp and Washingtons camp. Some of us are unlucky East coasters lol
 

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I could care less if the fans enjoy themselves.

I want Lombardi's

The circus that is the Dallas Cowboys training camp has not produced a team that has come close in 26 years.

Maybe that is not an important factor but how do you know?

Just maybe the Boys should try it the old fashioned way for a few years and find out.
 
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