Early (and late) Game Thread

[TheMarathonContinues]

LOL..

Dallas was 13-3 in Dak’s first season, while being carried by the best OL and RG in football. That’s why their were high standards the following year. Dak played like another trash the next year, including throwing 3 pick 6s in like the first 4 games. It got to the point, Linehan had to dumb down the offense for him and go back to running the ball with Zeke over like 20 times a game.

I like how you think catering to your players skill sets is “dumbing it down”….

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eagles > Vikings > Packers > Buccaneers > Cowboys > Bengals > Jets > Browns > Steelers

If we’re playing the “who’d ya beat?!” Game

What? Lol

 

[Captain-Crash]

LOL..

Dallas was 13-3 in Dak’s first season, while being carried by the best OL and RG in football. That’s why their were high standards the following year. Dak played like another trash the next year, 2017, including throwing 3 pick 6s in like the first 4 games. It got to the point, Linehan had to dumb down the offense for him and go back to running the ball with Zeke over like 20 times a game. They then made Dez the scapegoat, got rid of him, went “Dak-friendly” and Dak was literally setting Quincy Carter records of futility for the Cowboys.

The point being, it was Dak who was screwing up the franchise. We are on year 7 of the Dak experiment and the guy looks like a mess, getting outplayed by Cooper Rush.

come on now, we gave that idiot jason garrett 10 years to do nothing, why can't we waste 3 more years?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's why I'm not great with the Dallas defense. 20 to 20 no bend. You need to make 3 and outs!! Especially in games like this. Until they start doing this? I can't call them a top defense. They have gotten better but its still improvement needed. What we need is a fat biggie at defensive tackle. If you noticed both Tampa and GB had a fatty on the defensive line. Get me a FATTY!!!!!

For sure room to grow for the defense.

 

[khiladi]

After 2017, Jerry’s exact words of Dak’s struggles were:

“We will spend hours and hours reviewing and looking for better ways to help Dak win games for us.”

This whole train wreck had been the Jason Garrett experiment at QB.

 

[khiladi]

So as a Dak "stan"...10 points is good for a qb to put up?

Just trying to follow the logic here.

So it is Lombardi's fault...i see.

Yes, it is actually Lombardi’s fault if you watched the game, especially considering the hero ball he was relying on with absolutely no running game and then Jaguars then proceeded to dominate the TOP the whole fourth quarter plus by running the ball. The game was blown completely open in the 4th.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah because Buccs D ain’t the Bengals D.

Same defense as last year that Dak has his career game. So many excuses for a 7 year QB.

 

[Ken]

Yes, it is actually Lombardi’s fault if you watched the game, especially considering the hero ball he was relying on with absolutely no running game and then Jaguars then proceeded to dominate the TOP the whole fourth quarter plus by running the ball. The game was blown completely open in the 4th.

So "ELITE" qb play needs play calling too?

I was not aware of such a thing.

 

[khiladi]

So "ELITE" qb play needs play calling too?

I was not aware of such a thing.

So now we making up arguments that nobody ever stated to try and save Dak’s garbage QB play…. That being said, anybody that watched the Chargers, even with Lombardi, knows Herbert is elite, while Lombardi is incompetent, just like they knew Romo was great, while Garrett sucked.

And just like they know Dak is a mediocrity and Moore is a scapegoat as Rush looks better than he does.

 

[khiladi]

So now we are Latching on the teet of Lawrence now?

You guys are hilarious.

Whose latching on to Lawrence? The other blond hair, blue eyed QB looks better in season 2 than 7 year Dak and season 2 Dak.. Herbert in the loss still looks better than Dak..

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

LOL..

Dallas was 13-3 in Dak’s first season, while being carried by the best OL and RG in football. That’s why their were high standards the following year. Dak played like another trash the next year, 2017, including throwing 3 pick 6s in like the first 4 games. It got to the point, Linehan had to dumb down the offense for him and go back to running the ball with Zeke over like 20 times a game. They then made Dez the scapegoat, got rid of him, went “Dak-friendly” and Dak was literally setting Quincy Carter records of futility for the Cowboys.

The point being, it was Dak who was screwing up the franchise. We are on year 7 of the Dak experiment and the guy looks like a mess, getting outplayed by Cooper Rush.

So is your claim not going to be that Herbert doesn't have talented WRs and a talented roster around him, which is good enough to compete in the playoffs? You moved the goal posts after you tried to make the difference out to be that Dak was in his seventh year, while Herbert was going into his full second season. So again when is Herbert going to be held to the standard of being expected to win more consistently and being expected to take his team into the playoffs and start to win playoff games?

First you claimed that Dak threw 3 pick sixes in his first 4 games in 2016, which didn't happen. Now you are claiming that he threw 3 pick sixes in his first 4 games in 2017,

 

[Ken]

So now we making up arguments that nobody ever stated to try and save Dak’s garbage QB play…. That being said, anybody that watched the Chargers, even with Lombardi, knows Herbert is elite, while Lombardi is incompetent, just like they knew Romo was great, while Garrett sucked.

And just like they know Dak is a mediocrity and Moore is a scapegoat as Rush looks better than he does.

I haven't mentioned Dak once. I am merely asking about the lord and saviour Herbert.

Not sure why you keep trashing him in the games thread....

 

[khiladi]

So is your claim not going to be that Herbert doesn't have talented WRs and a talented roster around him, which is good enough to compete in the playoffs? You moved the goal posts after you tried to make the difference out to be that Dak was in his seventh year, while Herbert was going into his full second season. So again when is Herbert going to be held to the standard of being expected to win more consistently and being expected to take his team into the playoffs and start to win playoff games?

First you claimed that Dak threw 3 pick sixes in his first 4 games in 2016, which didn't happen. Now you are claiming that he threw 3 pick sixes in his first 4 games in 2017,

I didn’t move any goal post.

What I stated is your analogy is complete garbage, as Dak is in year 7 of QB play, and he’s been the weak link. It’s been nothing but excuse for mediocrity.

That’s not even close to the case with Herbert whose in year 2 of starting and had every measurable hot an elite QBs, by every standard in the book.

 

[HowardC]

Taking a penalty on a do-or-die play is Brady's #ClutchGene at work...

He was trying to get the ball snapped

 

[Ken]

Whose latching on to Lawrence? The other blond hair, blue eyed QB looks better in season 2 than 7 year Dak and season 2 Dak.. Herbert in the loss still looks better than Dak..

Well...you know you guys love the "looks" and measurables.

Talk to me when he actually does something for a season.

 

[HowardC]

Damn, these threads are getting annoying. I'm not the biggest Dak fan, but not every qb has to be compared to him

YES THEY DO!!!

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I didn’t move any goal post.

Yes, you did. Because you tried to make the difference in the standards you hold Dak to vs the Standards you hold Herbert to, in Dak being in his seventh season, while you said that Herbert was in his 2nd full season. Then pointed out the team Dak had built around him in his 2nd season. As if the Chargers haven't gone out to try and build a team around Herbert to have him succeed and give him weapons good enough for the Chargers to be potential playoff contenders with. The Chargers aren't surrounding Herbert with scrubs and subpar talent. So when is his expectations going to be held to a high standard, based on the type of team the Chargers puts around him.

 

[Corso]

Bleep the Eagles and their scumbag fans.

Lol. The re-education begins.

 

[khiladi]

Yes, you did. Because you tried to make the difference in the standards you hold Dak to vs the Standards you held Herbert to, in Dak being in his seventh season, while you said that Herbert was in his 2nd full season. Then pointed out the team Dak had built around him in his 2nd season. As if the Chargers haven't gone out to try and build a team around Herbert to have him succeed and give him weapons good enough for the Chargers to be potential playoff contenders with. The Chargers aren't surrounding Herbert with scrubs and subpar talent. So when is his expectations going to be held to a high standard, based on the type of team the Chargers puts around him.

No, it is not the same thing.

Dak walked into the best OL and RG in football. When teams say on Cole Beasley’s routes the next year, he completely sucked. Dallas still had the same talent as 13-3. He was the absolute weak link.

2017 was considered a disaster for Dak. 2018 he was setting Quincy Carter records in futility, despite that OL and RG. He sucked and continued to suck in zone coverage and still does and so on.

Herbert is in his second year starting and is in no way considered the weak link of this football team. And if we are going by players, the whole Chargers team was injured. And Herbert was not the weak link anyways.

And Staley is absolute garbage as a play caller. Moore runs light years around this guy.

 

[Motorola]

Any given Sunday (and season so far) in 2022:
Cards 0-2 at home; Raiders 0-3 overall
Dolphins only undefeated AFC team going into week 4 - but short week for them (and their opponent) - @ Bengals
Eagles and Giants only undefeated teams in the NFC