Are we still doing the Amari vs Ceedee and Noah watch?

Ken

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Targets in 2021. Amari 104 Targets. Cooper Kupp 191.

What Falacies?
And?

That is called forcing the ball. Have you watched the rams this year? They have forced the ball to Kupp to a fault and now they are desperately trying to get their "prized" FA Robinson to do something.

Again...0 other teams in the league had 3 100 target players. 0.
 

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Why do you do this?

Just to find something to complain about?
 

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Targets in 2021. Amari 104 Targets. Cooper Kupp 191.

What Falacies?

We have to understand what type of QB we have. Dak will throw when he sees the reciever open. When your a QB that throws people open you have to have a lot of trust in the reciever and your arm talent. That's one reason Dak doesn't throw a ton of interceptions because he rarely will make those type of throws. Dak throws late often because he's waiting for someone to flash open, many times resulting in a dump off but hey dump offs mixed with 2 or three big throws can result in big stats at the end of the game. A reciever can put up good pro bowl stats with Dak but Dak will never make a player an All Pro. I actually think Daks in the wrong offense. I think Dak would be even better with a 2 elite TE set with 2 quality RBs and one guy on the outside that can stretch the defense. Dak would be more consistent in that type of offense because he can utilize more of his strengths.
 

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because he’s an elite route runner and makes our offense better? it’s not rocket science lol. valuable cog in the machine
So because hes an elite route runner its ok for him to underperform and not live up to his contract?


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because he’s an elite route runner and makes our offense better? it’s not rocket science lol. valuable cog in the machine

You keep asserting this but I am not sure it bears out. We have a small sample size of the offense with Dak to compare with for this year but I never got the impression that Amari was a consistent difference maker while he was here. He was great in the slot or on the open side where he had room to work his crossover but we also saw him gameplanned away a lot as well as him just not showing up.

That was kinda the whole thing: his inconsistency. We did just put up a 40 burger on a good pass defense.
 

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And?

That is called forcing the ball. Have you watched the rams this year? They have forced the ball to Kupp to a fault and now they are desperately trying to get their "prized" FA Robinson to do something.

Again...0 other teams in the league had 3 100 target players. 0.

That is a good point. Moore's offense and Dak's approach calls for spreading the ball around. Cooper was not a whiner but he does seem to require a gameplan focused on him to be successful. Kinda the opposite of what Pollard does.
 
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Oh trust me, my thoughts on the QB here is well-documented

With that said, Amari’s shortcomings preceeded him coming here.

Your oversimplifying this. Dak plays similar to Carr. Spread the ball around, take your shots, and dink and dunk. You think Devante Adams is now a problem because his stat line looks a whole lot like Amari's when he was in Oakland. It's not even been half a season and he's already pushing cameramen.
 

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A group of divorced, abandoned men in their 50s cry less than cowboys fans for Amari, jeeez, just hope him having a big night triggers the Joneses into making a deal for a WR tomorrow, would be worth all the whinning.

You have my condolences, and i didn't know you were in your 50's.... and i could care less about what Amari did tonight. What did he do? And we don't need another WR.
 

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Your oversimplifying this. Dak plays similar to Carr. Spread the ball around, take your shots, and dink and dunk. You think Devante Adams is now a problem because his stat line looks a whole lot like Amari's when he was in Oakland. It's not even been half a season and he's already pushing cameramen.

Except the part about arm strength pocket presence and ability to read defenses. That dink and dunk narrative was nonsense his rookie year and has become moreso as time goes by. He makes his money in the middle of the field on drags, ins, hitches, and seam routes. That is what the passing offense is designed around.

Your post makes me wonder what you are seeing when you watch the games because it is clearly not what they are doing.
 

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Your oversimplifying this. Dak plays similar to Carr. Spread the ball around, take your shots, and dink and dunk. You think Devante Adams is now a problem because his stat line looks a whole lot like Amari's when he was in Oakland. It's not even been half a season and he's already pushing cameramen.
Im not oversimplifying anything

Yall keep blaming his lack of production on Dak but he hasnt ever exceeded what hes done here anywhere else

Ok so lets say Dak does spread the ball around…Then why did Ceedee outperform him?

i mean he was 3rd in receptions last season and was making $20m

if Hunter Renfrow or Darren Waller outperforms Davante Adams this year, then holla at me
 

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Im not oversimplifying anything

Yall keep blaming his lack of production on Dak but he hasnt ever exceeded what hes done here anywhere else

Ok so lets say Dak does spread the ball around…Then why did Ceedee outperform him?

i mean he was 3rd in receptions last season and was making $20m

if Hunter Renfrow or Darren Waller outperforms Davante Adams this year, then holla at me

Dude has to be trolling. He goes from saying you are oversimplifying to then doing a mindlessly simple Dak = Carr analysis.
 
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