Dak has been lights out

[SteveTheCowboy]

That question could be levelled back at someone who creates a thread
Since Dak's been back, 1st in points, 1st in 3rd down conversion.

I really like that 3rd down stat. But...is it a team game or not?

I guess it is when we want it to be, and not when we want it to be? I include myself in that.

 

[blueblood70]

Great post.


Their fairy tale "Dak Sucks" story is crumbling all around them. Should be a glorious week before we ever hear from them again.

right this place constantly moves the goal posts, i was stating facts that many of these same posters were posting in preseason and after game 1 , at the trade deadline, still saying we need OBJ, i mean which is it we have a ton of talent or Dak overcome all these losses and broken thumb and has the offense art far better pace then it was with Rush., we are winning , now its not pretty enough LOL

 

[blueblood70]

Yes, true with 30 other teams in the League.

not really only what 6-7 from each side with qualify for the payoffs so a lot less then 30 my may. Some teams already looking at next years draft LOL

so its true for like 12 teams.

 

[starfan1]

Still in a bad mood I see.

Talk about "sensitive" sheesh.

All I said was that like Vet's Dak angle....you try to keep zeke enthusiasm reasonable. I never said you hated zeke.

okay maybe a COULE times...but not recently!. You have given your support to use both Zeke and Tony.

But by god watch out if someone tries to over-praise zeke. Are you denying this? Well you certainly check me at every opportunity.

Sensitive. Don't over praise Zeke! He's just average!

Pretty much what Vet does with Dak. I'm not saying I totally agree with every take....or we're in cahoots. We barely talk. At least he can cite some real world stats to support his position.

I also will continue to stand by my "defense" of zeke when the REAL haters appear. I do NOT consider you a hater.

But...well...carry on (with the silly insults. Meds? Come on star...you are better than this)

Good morning Steve hope you have great day today . I’m glad you don’t consider me a hater because I don’t hate him I wanted him to get over 100 on turkey day and our resident idiot quit giving him the ball
I’m not gonna care if he leaves in off-season but it is what is
In terms of vet and his posting style him and I bump heads going all the way back to the ranch and I suspect that will continue to be the case
But he is a fellow vet and that much I appreciate because in todays world they are extremely under appreciated

I hope you enjoy your day today and I’m not trolling here but I’m a wolverine fan today

man would I love Harrison jr lining up with a star though

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Good morning Steve hope you have great day today . I’m glad you don’t consider me a hater because I don’t hate him I wanted him to get over 100 on turkey day and our resident idiot quit giving him the ball
I’m not gonna care if he leaves in off-season but it is what is
In terms of vet and his posting style him and I bump heads going all the way back to the ranch and I suspect that will continue to be the case
But he is a fellow vet and that much I appreciate because in todays world they are extremely under appreciated

I hope you enjoy your day today and I’m not trolling here but I’m a wolverine fan today

man would I love Harrison jr lining up with a star though

Cheer for Michigan...that's what makes it fun! I grew up near toledo ohio...practciallyMi. We had family, friends and co-worker rivalries. Mostly fun sometimes darker. Always fun and enthusiastic.

Try to think of what Buckeyes I;d like to see as Cowboys next year!.

Harrison would be awesome....beast. He'll be gone early.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I mean this thread is “Dak played lights out”…

We were 5-1 without him.. But apparently it was the defense and RG then…

Agree 100% it's been a TEAM efford. In fact, I would argue, Dak couldn't not have done it w/o the defense and vice versa.

 

[DFWJC]

Pull up the stats for this year and the QB Dak has been most similar too is
Andy Dalton

Dak
232 yards per game
10 TDs
6 ints
95.3 QB rating

Dalton
227 yards per game
14 TDs
7 ints
96.4 QB rating

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Pull up the stats for this year and the QB Dak has been most similar too is
Andy Dalton

Dak
232 yards per game
10 TDs
6 ints
95.3 QB rating

Dalton
227 yards per game
14 TDs
7 ints
96.4 QB rating

 

[RonnieT24]

Pull up the stats for this year and the QB Dak has been most similar too is
Andy Dalton

Dak
232 yards per game
10 TDs
6 ints
95.3 QB rating

Dalton
227 yards per game
14 TDs
7 ints
96.4 QB rating

The offense Dak has been leading is averaging like 10 more points per game since he returned. As such it's quite a stretch to claim that he and Dalton are even remotely similar. We all know Dak's season numbers are being dragged down by that abysmal first game. In his 8 starts Dalton has 3 games above 100 passer rating and 5 below. Dak is at 3 each. In 8 starts Dalton has topped 70% completion rate three times. Dak has topped 70% in 4 of his 6 starts. Their seasons couldn't be more different.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He played good against Chicago, awful against GB, Great against Minnesota and was both bad and good against the Giants. he's been up and down.

 

[Rockport]

I really like that 3rd down stat. But...is it a team game or not?

I guess it is when we want it to be, and not when we want it to be? I include myself in that.

Defense and special teams don’t get first downs.

 

[blueblood70]

Hers a reminder guys so tired of all this Dak hate. What you call bad is better then most years Troy started in the regular season..


9 3.1 18 6.1 75 6.0 3.8 11.3 159.0 55.7 19 155 6.1 5.11 3.09 2
1990 24 DAL QB 8 15 15 7-8-0 226 399 56.6 2579 11 2.8 18 4.5 61 6.5 5.0 11.4 171.9 66.6 39 288 8.9 5.23 3.88 4 6 8
1991* 25 DAL QB 8 12 12 7-5-0 237 363 65.3 2754 11 3.0 10 2.8 61 7.6 7.0 11.6 229.5 86.7 32 224 8.1 6.41 5.82 2 2 11 PB
1992* 26 DAL QB 8 16 16 13-3-0 302 473 63.8 3445 23 4.9 14 3.0 87 7.3 6.9 11.4 215.3 89.5 23 112 4.6 6.72 6.38 1 1 17 PB
1993* 27 DAL QB 8 14 14 11-3-0 271 392 69.1 3100 15 3.8 6 1.5 80 7.9 8.0 11.4 221.4 99.0 26 153 6.2 7.05 7.12 0 1 16 AP MVP-5, AP OPoY-6, PB
1994* 28 DAL QB 8 14 14 10-4-0 233 361 64.5 2676 13 3.6 12 3.3 128 90 7.4 6.6 11.5 191.1 84.9 14 59 3.7 6.98 6.23 0 1 12 PB
1995* 29 DAL QB 8 16 16 12-4-0 280 432 64.8 3304 16 3.7 7 1.6 171 50 7.6 7.7 11.8 206.5 93.6 14 89 3.1 7.21 7.22 2 2 14 PB
1996* 30 DAL QB 8 15 15 10-5-0 296 465 63.7 3126 12 2.6 13 2.8 153 61 6.7 6.0 10.6 208.4 80.1 18 120 3.7 6.22 5.51 2 2 9 PB
1997 31 DAL QB 8 16 16 6-10-0 292 518 56.4 3283 19 3.7 12 2.3 160 64 6.3 6.0 11.2 205.2 78.0 33 269 6.0 5.47 5.18 3 3 8
1998 32 DAL QB 8 11 11 7-4-0 187 315 59.4 2330 12 3.8 5 1.6 109 67 7.4 7.4 12.5 211.8 88.5 9 58 2.8 7.01 7.06 9
1999 33 DAL QB 8 14 14 7-7-0 263 442 59.5 2964 17 3.8 12 2.7 129 90 6.7 6.3 11.3 211.7 81.1 19 130 4.1 6.15 5.71 1 1 10
2000 34 DAL QB 8 11 11 4-7-0 156 262 59.5 1632 7 2.7 14 5.3 83 48 6.2 4.4 10.5 148.4 64.3 13 91 4.7 5.60 3.82 0 1 4
Career 165 165 94-71-0 2898 4715 61.5 32942 165 3.5 141 3

Bus driver anyone? 165 tds-144 INTs for his career
year 1 11 tds 18 INT
year 2-11tds 10INT
year 3 23 tds 14 int
year 4 15tds 6 int sb year looks like he rode 22s coattails to me.
year 5 13 tds 12ints sb year
year6 16 -7
year 8 19-12
year 9-12-5
year 10-17-12
year 11-7-14

this dude threw far more INTs than Dak will ever throw and hes a HOF payer who was on a HOF team with great coaches. Man if the zone and SM was around . troy would be called and overpaid JAG!

dak gets criticized for throwing ints in WINS, troy threw far more then Dak.

also notice his compl% for a laser accurate cannon arm and smart qb he threw around 61.5% for his career and hit load of ints,,

 

[blueblood70]

Pull up the stats for this year and the QB Dak has been most similar too is
Andy Dalton

Dak
232 yards per game
10 TDs
6 ints
95.3 QB rating

Dalton
227 yards per game
14 TDs
7 ints
96.4 QB rating

how does it compare to the mighty Aikman 8 is hero..

Bus driver anyone? 165 tds-144 INTs for his career
year 1 -11 tds 18 INT
year 2-11tds 10INT
year 3- 23 tds 14 int
year 4 15tds 6 int sb year looks like he rode 22s coatails top me.
year 5 13 tds 12ints sb year
year6 16 -7
year 8 19-12
year 9- 12-5
year 10- 17-12
year 11- 7-14

this dude threw far more INTs than Dak will ever throw and hes a HOF player who was on a HOF team with great coaches. Man if the zone and SM was around . troy would be called and overpaid JAG!

dak gets criticized for throwing ints in WINS, troy threw far more then Dak.

also notice his compl% for a laser accurate cannon arm and smart qb he threw around 61.5% for his career and hit load of ints,,

 

[DFWJC]

The offense Dak has been leading is averaging like 10 more points per game since he returned. As such it's quite a stretch to claim that he and Dalton are even remotely similar. We all know Dak's season numbers are being dragged down by that abysmal first game. In his 8 starts Dalton has 3 games above 100 passer rating and 5 below. Dak is at 3 each. In 8 starts Dalton has topped 70% completion rate three times. Dak has topped 70% in 4 of his 6 starts. Their seasons couldn't be more different.

Looking much better lately.
no doubt

 

[DFWJC]

how does it compare to the mighty Aikman 8 is hero..

Bus driver anyone? 165 tds-144 INTs for his career
year 1 -11 tds 18 INT
year 2-11tds 10INT
year 3- 23 tds 14 int
year 4 15tds 6 int sb year looks like he rode 22s coatails top me.
year 5 13 tds 12ints sb year
year6 16 -7
year 8 19-12
year 9- 12-5
year 10- 17-12
year 11- 7-14

this dude threw far more INTs than Dak will ever throw and hes a HOF player who was on a HOF team with great coaches. Man if the zone and SM was around . troy would be called and overpaid JAG!

dak gets criticized for throwing ints in WINS, troy threw far more then Dak.

also notice his compl% for a laser accurate cannon arm and smart qb he threw around 61.5% for his career and hit load of ints,,

You are crossing eras w/ QBs....a football 101 no-no
I KNOW that you know better
Stats in 2022 aren't remotely comparable to 30 years ago...most of all for QBs

Fwiw,I was just putting out non-opinion based raw stats.
I know Dak and the offense have looked much better lately

 

[RonnieT24]

Looking much better lately.
no doubt

Once CD Lamb learns to fight for inside position on the deep in cut Dak might never throw another interception. He also needs to learn how to either knock the ball down of commit OPI on the DB to help his QB out when he sees a ball about to be intercepted. Dez was great about that. If he wasn't getting it nobody was on many an occasion. It was why Romo always trusted him against tight coverage. After a couple of miscues early in his career Dez learned to beat the DB up to get to the ball or keep it from being picked off. I can't recall ever seeing a DB outifght Dez for a ball. I'm sure it must have happened.. but it was rare.

 

[DFWJC]

Once CD Lamb learns to fight for inside position on the deep in cut Dak might never throw another interception. He also needs to learn how to either knock the ball down of commit OPI on the DB to help his QB out when he sees a ball about to be intercepted. Dez was great about that. If he wasn't getting it nobody was on many an occasion. It was why Romo always trusted him against tight coverage. After a couple of miscues early in his career Dez learned to beat the DB up to get to the ball or keep it from being picked off. I can't recall ever seeing a DB outifght Dez for a ball. I'm sure it must have happened.. but it was rare.

Great WRs do have to be able to help their QBs in many ways...including occasionally playing defense.

lol
But come on, Dak is going to throw ints. They all do at times

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Pull up the stats for this year and the QB Dak has been most similar too is
Andy Dalton

Dak
232 yards per game
10 TDs
6 ints
95.3 QB rating

Dalton
227 yards per game
14 TDs
7 ints
96.4 QB rating

Dalton sucked in Dallas. that's all I know.

 

[GINeric]

I really like that 3rd down stat. But...is it a team game or not?

I guess it is when we want it to be, and not when we want it to be? I include myself in that.

Well according to a few around here, it's a team game when we win, but all losses are Daks fault. Even the games he's not even dressed or playing. Oh yeah, when Dak has good statistics, the stats don't matter. But when other quarterbacks have good statistics in the same identical categories, they mysteriously count all of a sudden.

 

[blueblood70]

You are crossing eras w/ QBs....a ootball 101 no-no
There is NO WAY anyone can do that and be serious. You lose your football IQ card immediately when doing something like that.
Come on now...you have to know stats in 2022 are not eh same as 30 years ago.

I was not putting Dak down, just putting up non-opinion based stats.
I know he and the offense have looked much better the lat few weeks.

sorry, you are very wrong coml% int-td ratio etc. is all we need to know. he threw a ton of INTs and had low compl%

I dont care what era you are in, those are facts. i didn't bring in yards or total tds but very important to not throw mistakes, right its what Daks being put under a Microscope and its just wrong.

sorry man you opened this up with ridiculous comp in Dalton Vs Dak which only using those stats were way off base.

SO, I'll bring in the almighty #8, cant do no wrong, going to PBs with those numbers. he was elevated by a HOF roster and coaches and still had very average RS numbers.
Troy was great in the playoff's and SB but give me break on the ERA deal, why was he so much better in the payoffs LOL, i will not litsen to how it was different. smh well then Zeke gets break for this not being a Run first era full of Hogs who were allowed to hold more and ran 30+ a game every game? i mean and where does it stop..its doesn't

I used actual facts , I use TD-INT ratio and Compl %.. that shows lack of accuracy and also shows he didn't play perfect games, he won along with the team.. had games similar to dak all year every year many games.. please dont try to use excuses on oh the defenses were allowed to play with less rules..lmao.

Im sorry when Dak gets noticed for throwing early INT, yet leads his team back in wins or has his defense fold up against Gb and put under a microscope. I will bring actual facts..wake up those number are eye opening. 144 INTs is NOT GREAT.. shows he was NOT perfect shows he made mistakes many games. Aikman didn't have to be put out in the open with the saturated Social meida, sports networks, analytics and constant flow of critiques each week. we had to read the dang sports section in the newspaper and to dig out most stats were were looking for,.

Aikman would get roasted for those types of games in this place. Its different alright. its selective memory and unfair weekly bashing that Romo and dak get over whats obvious, Aikman was not 12foot tall and threw 80% compl % and not many INTs.. his pedestal placement on those 90s teams have made him Teflon coated and fans forget or choose to ignore even our precious #8 made many mistakes and his team bailed him out.

it will always be a team game and to have dak unfairly criticized for what most qbs go thorough even in wins is why i will come in here with reminder.

BTW go look at players like Young and Montana others even in that era put up huge numbers much beter td-INT ratios.