Within 4 years Eagles won a Super Bowl, rebuilt roster, now returning with new QB/HC

[mcmvp]

Lol.

I was damn objective. You think I like throwing flowers to the 49ers?

I don't like how the Eagles built their team. I didn't like how they built their 2017 team either. Somehow they got lucky as hell in 2017 and the stars are aligning the same this year.

Only this year they will have to beat a good team to make it.

Lol… you were being anything but objective. Do you really think this is a topic about the 49ers versus the Eagles? No, it’s a conversation about whether the Cowboys or Eagles have made better decisions when it comes to their respective teams. And the Eagles win that hands-down. We may lose to the 49ers on Sunday, but that has no bearing on whether or not the Eagles have made better decisions than the Cowboys.

Overpaying Dak Prescott…and even worse, giving Zeke that contract. Those two things alone eliminate the Cowboys as contenders. Front office decisions are not limited to which player to draft. If you polled 32 GMs and asked them which front office has done a better job at team building over the last 20 years, only one would pick Jones. Guess which one.

 

[Ken]

Lol… you were being anything but objective. Do you really think this is a topic about the 49ers versus the Eagles? No, it’s a conversation about whether the Cowboys or Eagles have made better decisions when it comes to their respective teams. And the Eagles win that hands-down. We may lose to the 49ers on Sunday, but that has no bearing on whether or not the Eagles have made better decisions than the Cowboys.

Overpaying Dak Prescott…and even worse, giving Zeke that contract. Those two things alone eliminate the Cowboys as contenders. Front office decisions are not limited to which player to draft. If you polled 32 GMs and asked them which front office has done a better job at team building over the last 20 years, only one would pick Jones. Guess which one.

Oh but you draft, investing all of that Capital and then thowing a huge contract at Wentz is smart? LOL.

I can go drag up my predraft analysis on Dak and Wentz if you want. Somehow a guy with a day job like me was able to see this but the Eagles didn't?

Zeke contract is the real albatross. I didn't even want to draft him either and i certainly did not want to resign him. I wanted Ramsey and Henry. Said it before the draft too.

You losing to the 49ers this week means you are the same as us. You just got to play the Giants in the playoffs. Remember...we split the season series this year....ya know...with your all world team and all.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Cowboys fans don't want to hear it but, the Eagles have the best ownership in the division. They also have a better front office that uses the draft, trade AND free agency to improve their roster. All three are what successful NFC franchises have been doing of late (Eagles, 9ers, Rams and to a degree the Bucs).

Dallas is good at drafting but refuses to explore the other necessary steps.

Remember when they moved up one spot ahead of us to draft a future HOF TE whose name is Dallas?
And they didn't even need a TE.....
Suck on it Jerry as you stink as a GM

 

[PAPPYDOG]

A REAL FOOTBALL GENERAL MANAGER NOT THE OWNER AND DEFACTO HEAD COACH!!!!!!!!!!! A REAL PRESIDENT OF PLAYER PERSONNEL NOT NEPOTISM FAT HEAD SON!!!!!!!!!
UNTIL YOU MAKE THIS MAN GENERAL MANAGER YOU WILL REMAIN THE ARLINGTON JONESBOYS...

Another glorified YES man........Ya Jerry got a lot of those around the past 28 years!

 

[erod]

Do Dumb & Dumber feel any shame looking at our rival lap us like this?

When the Eagles win on Sunday, that will be 2 Super Bowls since 2018 after swapping out coaches, QB, players, offensive/defensive systems.

It will be 3 Super Bowl appearances, 7 Conference Title appearances, 16 playoff wins for the Eagles since the last time the Cowboys got out of the divisional round. My God how do these two bumbling idiots not feel any shame?!

And they have the #10 pick in the first round.

 

[erod]

Oh but you draft, investing all of that Capital and then thowing a huge contract at Wentz is smart? LOL.

I can go drag up my predraft analysis on Dak and Wentz if you want. Somehow a guy with a day job like me was able to see this but the Eagles didn't?

Zeke contract is the real albatross. I didn't even want to draft him either and i certainly did not want to resign him. I wanted Ramsey and Henry. Said it before the draft too.

You losing to the 49ers this week means you are the same as us. You just got to play the Giants in the playoffs. Remember...we split the season series this year....ya know...with your all world team and all.

Zeke's contract was only 1/3 of Dak's. Only $50 million guaranteed and $15 million per season.

That's not great, but it's hardly an albatross.

 

[mcmvp]

Oh but you draft, investing all of that Capital and then thowing a huge contract at Wentz is smart? LOL.

I can go drag up my predraft analysis on Dak and Wentz if you want. Somehow a guy with a day job like me was able to see this but the Eagles didn't?

Zeke contract is the real albatross. I didn't even want to draft him either and i certainly did not want to resign him. I wanted Ramsey and Henry. Said it before the draft too.

You losing to the 49ers this week means you are the same as us. You just got to play the Giants in the playoffs. Remember...we split the season series this year....ya know...with your all world team and all.

If you were educated about how they actually got Wentz, you would know that they didn’t give up a ton to get up to #2. And he was not a bad pic. He was the reason they had the number one seed. Yes a few injuries and a major concussion later, he was never the same. Was it a mistake to pay him that much? Sure… Every teams make those mistakes where they thought they were right at the time but then it proved they weren’t. But they quickly cut bait on that bad decision and moved on. It’s the teams that double down on their bad decisions…or stick with them for too long. They are the ones that are truly making a mistake.

The Cowboys front office will be making a step in the right direction if they make a move this off-season that indicates they are done with Dak Prescott. They shouldn’t have signed him to that ridiculous deal in the first place, but it appears they are waiting too long to cut bait.

 

[Sydla]

I'm talking about the last 2 years. Especially, this year. We beat the Eagles and the Bengals and lost a close one to the 49ers. The Cowboys had 6 wins this year against playoff teams.

In the last two years, the 49ers have made both NFCCGs and the Eagles are in the NFCCG.

We are at home getting ready for vacation again early. We lost to the 49ers both years as well in the postseason.

No, we aren't in the same ballpark as roster builders as those two. Your homerism is in overdrive.

 

[rambo2]

They are a good team that draft's well. That's where it ends. he upper echelon teams have the competitive advantage of front offices that make better football decisions after the draft.

The Cowboys were easily at least the 3rd best team in the NFC and were very close to advancing even with the difficult road route and short rest against a very good 49er team.

 

[Sydla]

So what happens after Philly loses this week?

Does this thread close down?

Nothing.

The facts will still remain. Philly has played in two NFCCG in 6 years. The 49ers have played in 3 NFCCGs in the last 6 years. Both have a SB appearance at least in the last 6 years.

There's really zero comparison at this point between how those two teams build rosters and we build rosters.

I mean holy **** dude, you are in other threads whining about lack of weapons on offense and other personnel issues that hold Dak back but now you are here trying to argue we build rosters and teams just as good as the 49ers or Philly? You can't even keep your arguments straight.

 

[Sydla]

Oh but you draft, investing all of that Capital and then thowing a huge contract at Wentz is smart? LOL.

I can go drag up my predraft analysis on Dak and Wentz if you want. Somehow a guy with a day job like me was able to see this but the Eagles didn't?

Zeke contract is the real albatross. I didn't even want to draft him either and i certainly did not want to resign him. I wanted Ramsey and Henry. Said it before the draft too.

You losing to the 49ers this week means you are the same as us. You just got to play the Giants in the playoffs. Remember...we split the season series this year....ya know...with your all world team and all.

Yeah, they may have messed up with Wentz. They got out of that Wentz deal with a small aount of pain (cap wise) and actually recouped some of their picks lost when they traded for him. Think Jerry could have done that? Nope.

You are out in left field on this. Philly is a better run organization right now than the Cowboys.

 

[Ken]

Zeke's contract was only 1/3 of Dak's. Only $50 million guaranteed and $15 million per season.

That's not great, but it's hardly an albatross.

Dak produces.

Zeke doesn't.

Simple as that.

 

[stinkface]

"We like our guys".

 

[Ken]

Yeah, they may have messed up with Wentz. They got out of that Wentz deal with a small aount of pain (cap wise) and actually recouped some of their picks lost when they traded for him. Think Jerry could have done that? Nope.

You are out in left field on this. Philly is a better run organization right now than the Cowboys.

They do a great job fixing their blunders.

They make a lot of them too. While we draft ceedee lamb...they take Reagor instead of Jefferson. They "fix" it by sending a #1 for AJ Brown which is great short term benefit but it screws you later because the idea is to hit on those picks because you have cheap high quality players for longer. Now they had to dole out a huge contract for Brown and, luckily, it worked great for them. There is a risk making those trades, it worked for them in this instance but that was a direct result of them failing at the draft.

They take Jordan Davis at 13 and the guy literally made 0 impact this year and doesn't look like he has much upside to me.

We take a stud OL in the 20s....

The list goes on.

 

[Sydla]

Frankly, Philly has been a better run organization than us since Jerry took over all the duties as football personnel guy after he and Jimmy parted ways.

The proof is in the results over 27 years.

Cowboys - 4 playoff wins, zero NFCCGs, zero SB appearances, zero SB wins

Eagles - 15 playoff wins, 7 NFCCGs, 2 SB appearances (maybe 3), 1 SB win (maybe 2)

 

[Sydla]

They do a great job fixing their blunders.

They make a lot of them too. While we draft ceedee lamb...they take Reagor instead of Jefferson. They "fix" it by sending a #1 for AJ Brown which is great short term benefit but it screws you later because the idea is to hit on those picks because you have cheap high quality players for longer. Now they had to dole out a huge contract for Brown and, luckily, it worked great for them. There is a risk making those trades, it worked for them in this instance but that was a direct result of them failing at the draft.

They take Jordan Davis at 13 and the guy literally made 0 impact this year and doesn't look like he has much upside to me.

We take a stud OL in the 20s....

The list goes on.

And yet the results on the field that really only matter. They don't hand out a trophy for the best draft.

Philly's on the field success dwarfs us both recently and over the full period of Jerry taking over player personnel after Jimmy left.

So wonderful, we took Smith last year and they may have taken a dud in Davis. Awesome, a few years ago they screwed up and took Reagor while we took Lamb. All those draft "wins" by us have resulted in what relative to them? Not much. They won a SB 6 years ago. The team then kind of imploded resulting in a 4 win season 3 seasons ago. In a short amount of time they retooled and are now back in the NFCCG with a chance at a 2nd SB appearance in 6 years.

Trying to convince yourselves that we do things right, relative to the Eagles, is laughable because it ignores the whole point of playing football anyway - being successful in the postseason. One team has been. One team has not. Arguing the team that has not is just as good at building rosters/teams as the other team is just hilarious at this point.

 

[Jimbo123]

FO is clearly the most important position, especially in the salary cap era. Nearly 30 years of mediocrity didn't happen by mistake

Don’t know if it’s been said but hurts has been where no cowboys has been in 28 years..only took him two years(didn’t start most of first year.) Congrats to Texas kid who all said he sucked)

Don't forget Purdy has been where no Cowboys has been in 28 years.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I'm all for moving on from Dak if he is not the answer, the question still is going to remain is if the Joneses are willing to change their arrogant approach to free agency and believing that if they can't have it done their way, then no way will work. If Dak gets released and a new QB is drafted will the Cowboys front office intensely pursue high quality and high premium free agency players to build around their new QB. Or are they going to demand that the new QB develop under a system in which Stephen Jones gives him nothing but cheap and bargain bin players to work with?

 

[Ken]

And yet the results on the field that really only matter. They don't hand out a trophy for the best draft.

Philly's on the field success dwarfs us both recently and over the full period of Jerry taking over player personnel after Jimmy left.

So wonderful, we took Smith last year and they may have taken a dud in Davis. Awesome, a few years ago they screwed up and took Reagor while we took Lamb. All those draft "wins" by us have resulted in what relative to them? Not much. They won a SB 6 years ago. The team then kind of imploded resulting in a 4 win season 3 seasons ago. In a short amount of time they retooled and are now back in the NFCCG with a chance at a 2nd SB appearance in 6 years.

Trying to convince yourselves that we do things right, relative to the Eagles, is laughable because it ignores the whole point of playing football anyway - being successful in the postseason. One team has been. One team has not. Arguing the team that has not is just as good at building rosters/teams as the other team is just hilarious at this point.

Again....they lose on Sunday and the only thing they accomplished was beating the Giants 3 times.

Then they have a lot of work to do to get their roster back intact.


Great.. them and about a dozen other teams can claim they had more front office success than Dallas over the last 20 years.

 

[Aven8]

The Rams had about $37 and a pack of gum left, no 1st round draft picks for like three years, and this season the worst Oline in football.

But guess what? They got a ring! Do whatever it take’s already