Can't we trade for Lamar?

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

This has been bugging me for a while. Could we not put a package together and trade for the apparently unhappy Lamar J? He will soon be signing a monster contract, Dak's will fail in comparison....we throw in a draft pick and hope Dak waives his no trade clause? Cap hit? Do the Ravens like Dak?

I am likely missing some key reasons why this won't happen, aside from the obvious.....fire away

Jayinem · Jan 30, 2023

Dak won't waive his no trade clause to play in Baltimore when he grew up a Cowboy fan.

And that would be admitting Jerry made a mistake by paying Dak, can't have that. We have to coddle Jerry's ego always.

charron · Jan 30, 2023

No.

1 dak has a no trade clause. Ravens are baren of weapons in a tough afc. No one wants that qb job.

2. Why would the ravems want dak? They built the offense around lamar's abikity to run.

diamonddelts · Jan 30, 2023

NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!!@@

Jerry has NO leverage. Why is this such a hard concept for Dallas fans to grasp?

kskboys · Jan 30, 2023

Redsfan_83 said:
This has been bugging me for a while. Could we not put a package together and trade for the apparently unhappy Lamar J? He will soon be signing a monster contract, Dak's will fail in comparison....we throw in a draft pick and hope Dak waives his no trade clause? Cap hit? Do the Ravens like Dak?

I am likely missing some key reasons why this won't happen, aside from the obvious.....fire away

I mean, I know it's cliche'd, but do you even watch football? Lamar has gotten hurt now the last two seasons, which is right in line w/ what happens to running QB's.

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

charron said:
No.

1 dak has a no trade clause. Ravens are baren of weapons in a tough afc. No one wants that qb job.

2. Why would the ravems want dak? They built the offense around lamar's abikity to run.

Doesn't look like Lamar wants them, and they seem primed for a divorce.. That being the case, they need a QB as we do, lol. That is why I mention Dak would have to waive his no trade...I would imagine less pressure playing in Baltimore than in Big D

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

diamonddelts said:
NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!!@@

Jerry has NO leverage. Why is this such a hard concept for Dallas fans to grasp?

I mentioned the no trade clause, doesn't mean Dak won't do it. We can make his life so miserable he wants out, lol. Lamar doesn't seem happy either...

charron · Jan 30, 2023

Redsfan_83 said:
Doesn't look like Lamar wants them, and they seem primed for a divorce.. That being the case, they need a QB as we do, lol. That is why I mention Dak would have to waive his no trade...I would imagine less pressure playing in Baltimore than in Big D

They will tag lamar. They have no intention of trading him much less for dak.

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

kskboys said:
I mean, I know it's cliche'd, but do you even watch football? Lamar has gotten hurt now the last two seasons, which is right in line w/ what happens to running QB's.

I am not confident his ego isn't hurt as well. Dak is no different in terms of injuries, remember

Jayinem · Jan 30, 2023

kskboys said:
I mean, I know it's cliche'd, but do you even watch football? Lamar has gotten hurt now the last two seasons, which is right in line w/ what happens to running QB's.

Dak got hurt 2 of the last 3 seasons, but who's counting right when it comes to Dak?

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

charron said:
They will tag lamar. They have no intention of trading him much less for dak.

I am aware that is the likely outcome, but considering the angst between the two parties do they want that distraction again next year? His tag figure is over $45 big ones...grasping at straws on my end I know, however..

CATCH17 · Jan 30, 2023

Lamar is a running QB who is older and starting to get dinged up.

Hard pass. He’ll cost a ton.

A rookie contract can be just as valuable as an elite QB.

Jayinem · Jan 30, 2023

CATCH17 said:
Lamar is a running QB who is older and starting to get dinged up.

Hard pass. He’ll cost a ton.

A rookie contract can be just as valuable as an elite QB.

Cooper Rush enters the chat

Whiskey Cowboy · Jan 30, 2023

Redsfan_83 said:
This has been bugging me for a while. Could we not put a package together and trade for the apparently unhappy Lamar J? He will soon be signing a monster contract, Dak's will fail in comparison....we throw in a draft pick and hope Dak waives his no trade clause? Cap hit? Do the Ravens like Dak?

I am likely missing some key reasons why this won't happen, aside from the obvious.....fire away

When the Falcons traded Matt Ryan to Indy, they carried an NFL record $40m of dead money into the 2022 season, which believe it or not saved them $9m towards the cap. $49m salary minus $40m in dead cap.

If Dallas went that route, they'd incur an $89m hit in dead cap and clearing Dak's $49m salary from the books...meaning we are looking at losing around $40m in cap space this season by cutting or trading Dak. In other words, we're stuck with the guy.

KJJ · Jan 30, 2023

Lamar Jackson isn’t worth a ton of money and he can’t stay healthy. I’m sure he’s looking for 50 million per. He’s a great runner, but I’ve never been sold on him as a passer.

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

Whiskey Cowboy said:
When the Falcons traded Matt Ryan to Indy, they carried an NFL record $40m of dead money into the 2022 season, which believe it or not saved them $9m towards the cap. $49m salary minus $40m in dead cap.

If Dallas went that route, they'd incur an $89m hit in dead cap and clearing Dak's $49m salary from the books...meaning we are looking at losing around $40m in cap space this season by cutting or trading Dak. In other words, we're stuck with the guy.

well you just ruined my night, lol

Jayinem · Jan 30, 2023

Whiskey Cowboy said:
When the Falcons traded Matt Ryan to Indy, they carried an NFL record $40m of dead money into the 2022 season, which believe it or not saved them $9m towards the cap. $49m salary minus $40m in dead cap.

If Dallas went that route, they'd incur an $89m hit in dead cap and clearing Dak's $49m salary from the books...meaning we are looking at losing around $40m in cap space this season by cutting or trading Dak. In other words, we're stuck with the guy.

Yeah this is all that matters right here, it's not happening. It looks like in 2024 his cap hit is 40 mil vs 89 mil this coming season, maybe then but not now.

Redsfan_83 · Jan 30, 2023

KJJ said:
Lamar Jackson isn’t worth a ton of money and he can’t stay healthy. Great runner, but I’ve never been totally sold on him as a passer.

problem is he has never, ever had a WR core to throw the ball to. I know he is dinged up, but so has our guy. If healthy though, he has the skill set we badly need...I do realize this is likely not to happen, but one can hope

Whiskey Cowboy · Jan 30, 2023

Redsfan_83 said:
well you just ruined my night, lol

Keep dreaming brother. The day will come when Dallas isn't married to Dak's bank account. It just won't be today.

Cowpolk · Jan 30, 2023

Jayinem said:
Dak won't waive his no trade clause to play in Baltimore when he grew up a Cowboy fan.

And that would be admitting Jerry made a mistake by paying Dak, can't have that. We have to coddle Jerry's ego always.

Correct he was a Cowboys fan since childhood and is where he dreamed of playing That clause in his contract that says no trade is iron clad He will retire as the QB of the Cowboys And will get a whole lot more dollars On his extension and it will be another no cut no trade deal bank on it

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