News: Sunday Ticket Judge: Jury didn't follow orders when determining damages

Judge orders jury to not guess or speculate.

Jury says, "To heck with that! We know what to do!"

Jury says how much the damages should be.

Judge rolls his eyes.

NFL lawyers giggle to themselves.

:facepalm:



IDIOTS! It is a court of LAW. It is not Let's Make A Deal. "Shut up, Wayne Brady! We do not accept that zonk! We want whatever's behind door number three!" :banghead:
 
I multiply $192 times 2.4 million subscribers and I get $460.8 million. If I divide $4.7 billion by 2.4 million I get $1920. The jury must have had some other factors they included.

Also, customers were overcharged every year so the calculation should be the sum of customers over the years 2011-2022 multiplied by the average overcharge per year. This may turn out to be an even larger figure than what the jury arrived at.

It sounds like the judge is going to toss the verdict and try the case again. This could take years to resolve unless the NFL agrees to a settlement. I think a settlement will be substantially less than this jury award because the lawyers bringing the case will get rich with little concern for the NFL Ticket subscribers who paid for the package.
 
Creeper said:
I multiply $192 times 2.4 million subscribers and I get $460.8 million. If I divide $4.7 billion by 2.4 million I get $1920. The jury must have had some other factors they included.

Also, customers were overcharged every year so the calculation should be the sum of customers over the years 2011-2022 multiplied by the average overcharge per year. This may turn out to be an even larger figure than what the jury arrived at.

It sounds like the judge is going to toss the verdict and try the case again. This could take years to resolve unless the NFL agrees to a settlement. I think a settlement will be substantially less than this jury award because the lawyers bringing the case will get rich with little concern for the NFL Ticket subscribers who paid for the package.
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Not that it will reach the same amount, but the article stated there would be a 3x modifier applied due to the anti-trust factor.
 
Ranching said:
The check is in the mail.
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NFL didn’t want Sunday Ticket on cable TV to limit distribution, economist testifies​

By Edvard Pettersson | Courthouse News Service
June 11, 2024

<excerpt>

According to Rascher, without the NFL's anti-competitive practices and if Sunday Ticket was made available through multiple distributors, subscribers wouldn't have to pay anything beyond what they pay for their cable, satellite or streaming service.

The plaintiffs are seeking as much as $7 billion in damages, which under U.S. antitrust law is subject to mandatory trebling, putting the NFL potentially on the hook for $21 billion...Read more

___________________

Dr. Daniel Rascher testified on behalf of the plaintiffs as an expert witness. He teaches sports economics and finance for the University of San Francisco.

The central point is that experts (John Zona also testified on a different model) explained and offered compensation models to the court. Then the jury disregarded the expert compensation models, which both the plaintiffs and defense would be legally bond to adhering to--even if there was a modification of the final verdict, on appeal, etc.

Basically, the jury turned Matlock. Now, the judge must salvage the case before it gets thrown out over the nonsense--which would prompt a brand NEW case and re-start the whole process all over again.

Idiotic. Someone or some people on the jury thought basic math would be a justifiable solution. "ANNNK! Sorry Hans. Wrong guess! Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change???" :rolleyes:

EDIT: The excerpt was pulled from an excellent article if anyone is interested in reading it.
 
DallasEast said:

NFL didn’t want Sunday Ticket on cable TV to limit distribution, economist testifies​

By Edvard Pettersson | Courthouse News Service
June 11, 2024

<excerpt>

According to Rascher, without the NFL's anti-competitive practices and if Sunday Ticket was made available through multiple distributors, subscribers wouldn't have to pay anything beyond what they pay for their cable, satellite or streaming service.

The plaintiffs are seeking as much as $7 billion in damages, which under U.S. antitrust law is subject to mandatory trebling, putting the NFL potentially on the hook for $21 billion...Read more

___________________

Dr. Daniel Rascher testified on behalf of the plaintiffs as an expert witness. He teaches sports economics and finance for the University of San Francisco.

The central point is that experts (John Zona also testified on a different model) explained and offered compensation models to the court. Then the jury disregarded the expert compensation models, which both the plaintiffs and defense would be legally bond to adhering to--even if there was a modification of the final verdict, on appeal, etc.

Basically, the jury turned Matlock. Now, the judge must salvage the case before it gets thrown out over the nonsense--which would prompt a brand NEW case and re-start the whole process all over again.

Idiotic. Someone or some people on the jury thought basic math would be a justifiable solution. "ANNNK! Sorry Hans. Wrong guess! Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change???" :rolleyes:

EDIT: The excerpt was pulled from an excellent article if anyone is interested in reading it.
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From how it was explained in several articles on this, the jury seemed quite reasonable in how they calculated the damages
Actually using the amount that the subscribers PAID
This judge sounds like someone greased his palm
 
From the article, it sure sounds like Robert Kraft's testimony cooked the NFL's goose.
 
gtb1943 said:
From how it was explained in several articles on this, the jury seemed quite reasonable in how they calculated the damages
Actually using the amount that the subscribers PAID
This judge sounds like someone greased his palm
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That is not how it works. Testimony is evidence within a court proceeding, no matter how it viewed by outsiders. Verdicts (or non verdicts) are determined by the evidence.
 
DallasEast said:
Judge orders jury to not guess or speculate.

Jury says, "To heck with that! We know what to do!"

Jury says how much the damages should be.

Judge rolls his eyes.

NFL lawyers giggle to themselves.

:facepalm:



IDIOTS! It is a court of LAW. It is not Let's Make A Deal. "Shut up, Wayne Brady! We do not accept that zonk! We want whatever's behind door number three!" :banghead:
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This will likely lead to making a deal.

I dont think the jury disregarded the judge or made-up numbers.
They used legit math based upon the overcharge portion times the number of homes.
They did not follow the model of either expert however coming in between the 2 numbers.

Because these awards can be tripled the NFL needs to settle, BADLY. Even at 5BILION.
Because 14 billion would be a game changer.
 
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