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[CowboysFaninHouston]

Drive of being a man. The same commitments of a football player. The ground work works the very same. Directions of team are unchanged. If that is unseen, then function of that group is missed. Pain and simple.

Accountability is from the top. Not team nor their commitment to success. In sport, it is always digging for gold.

Just for fact, Jerry's team is good at digging for gold. They produce, but the team is the focal point for a fan. Not Jerry. If one is limited in comparison of base and long stand management principal for directed team successes, that is not all the picture then.

Weight of gold is weighed and accountability still flows down the leadership chart. Gold dug is what counts, not names on a list in team.

There here and now is a set goal on weight of gold. Bet the Cowboys get their team goals of gold.

When I should be looking for maps for digging, I'm just not going to be crying about a 30 year calendar. I'm going to look to where I am now digging...the players involved. Not Jerry.

exactly!!!! accountability from the top. the top doesn't prioritize winning and championships. the top prioritizes money, over everything else and thus the rest of the organization has learned the same. the focus is not football, the focus is branding, marketing, selling.

and what did Jerry's team produce? on the football field? not gold. pieces of aluminum and iron perhaps. nothing close to value of gold...not even silver. not even fools gold (which you have fallen for)

you are distracting everything by trying to spin a story, defending jerry and company. again, I understand, you were taught all your life, leadership is always right. your instincts are to do just that, regardless of the facts that are in front of you.

btw, I think with this last post you just wanted to listen to yourself, because it said a whole lot of nothing.

secondly, to your last statement. you are not looking at where you have dug the past 30 years...and look where you are digging now...perhaps for 30 years you kept digging and going the wrong direction and continuing digging slighly in a different direction, you still end up with nothing. because you are in the wrong place. perhaps you need to back track, take a look again and take a different approach and direction to your digging. all that is apparaent is we are slightly left or slightly right of where we have been digging for 30 years... what do you expect to end up with?

keep following, you have no choice. its your DNA

 

[CCBoy]

exactly!!!! accountability from the top. the top doesn't prioritize winning and championships. the top prioritizes money, over everything else and thus the rest of the organization has learned the same. the focus is not football, the focus is branding, marketing, selling.

and what did Jerry's team produce? on the football field? not gold. pieces of aluminum and iron perhaps. nothing close to value of gold...not even silver. not even fools gold (which you have fallen for)

you are distracting everything by trying to spin a story, defending jerry and company. again, I understand, you were taught all your life, leadership is always right. your instincts are to do just that, regardless of the facts that are in front of you.

btw, I think with this last post you just wanted to listen to yourself, because it said a whole lot of nothing.

secondly, to your last statement. you are not looking at where you have dug the past 30 years...and look where you are digging now...perhaps for 30 years you kept digging and going the wrong direction and continuing digging slighly in a different direction, you still end up with nothing. because you are in the wrong place. perhaps you need to back track, take a look again and take a different approach and direction to your digging. all that is apparaent is we are slightly left or slightly right of where we have been digging for 30 years... what do you expect to end up with?

keep following, you have no choice. its your DNA

Evaluations aren't excuses for blaming. I never let places go blameless and judge upon what goes on under that leader. Your appraisal is wrong as to my own values. Evaluations still are a system tool for improvement.

I am instead following team level values and staying open to those dynamics. The team is actually pretty damn good now and in another developmental phase. That is my focus and not a knee jerk blame it on Jerry. Oh, every one knows he has warts, but he also is a damn good owner with what is on hand and working here and now.

This is the off season where building is in full progress now. Not improving insult and blaming Jerry sophistication.

I'm a fan...GO COWBOYS!

 

[Hadenough]

Value of gold is set by present market price. Big chunks increase in value and this holds in football as well. You going to sell and reduce your value, or cherish the unusual nature that already sets that player apart?

No, it isn't cry and sell him off season.

Jerry probably thinks that if he holds off on Parsons contract that all the other team salary caps will be filled and he'll have limited ability if he wants to be traded it won't happen. If Jerry does that to Parsons I wouldn't be surprised if Parsons asked for more money than Garrett and then holds out when Jerry refuses to pay him that much.

 

[CCBoy]

Jerry probably thinks that if he holds off on Parsons contract that all the other team salary caps will be filled and he'll have limited ability if he wants to be traded it won't happen. If Jerry does that to Parsons I wouldn't be surprised if Parsons asked for more money than Garrett and then holds out when Jerry refuses to pay him that much.

Not true on both sides of negotiations. Fact, it will get done. You don't think it will?

The 3rd of the top level team leaders...a win!

 

[Bobhaze]

When there are 3 sides to a contract each party has its own proportion of accountability, no?

If Micah has said for months he doesn't need $40 mil a year to sign and signs for more than that, he has to be held to account for his words, no?

Per Micah's own words it shouldn't matter what any other player signs for, he stated he didn't need that amount.

But sure, keep holding only one side to the fire.

Well it’s interesting how much inside information you claim to have.

All I can comment on is what has been reported. And according to what the Cowboys FO has said and what has been published in the local Dallas area newspapers, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, CBS sports and others, negotiations with Parsons STARTED around March 1st.

So if that’s when they started, the Cowboys waited a loooooong time to start. By waiting so long to even start official negotiations, they are losing money. It’s exactly what happened with Cedee Lamb and Dak.

I’m not holding only “one side of the fire”. I’m just speaking on what the Cowboys front office themselves have publicly said.

Do you have additional information not reported publicly? Do you have special information no one else does? If so please elaborate.

 

[Hadenough]

Not true on both sides of negotiations. Fact, it will get done. You don't think it will?

The 3rd of the top level team leaders...a win!

I think it's possible Jerry trades him. Jerry has never liked having a true alpha around especially one that questions his moves.

 

[Gambit]

Well it’s interesting how much inside information you claim to have.

Where have I claimed insider information? I stated they began negotions before Garret was signed. And specifically to the comment you chose to reply to, not one word in there would be a claim of insider information.

Garrett signed on March 9th. you in next paragraph state Cowboys began negotiations with Micah on March 1st.

I don't need insider information here Bob, just a calendar will do to see that one is before the other.

So if that’s when they started, the Cowboys waited a loooooong time to start. By waiting so long to even start official negotiations, they are losing money. It’s exactly what happened with Cedee Lamb and Dak.

Not the same at all, and none of it changes anything I've said. Let's recap in bullet point.

• I said contract negations are a 3 party ordeal. Team, player, agent.
• I said Micah has repeatedly stated he doesn't need to be highest paid nor does he need to be at $40 mil a year

None of this required insider information as you claim.

I’m not holding only “one side of the fire”. I’m just speaking on what the Cowboys front office themselves have publicly said.

But you are. I've not seen you call out the agent. I've not seen you call out Micah for saying he didn't need to be highest paid or $40 mil. Not once. Just some assertion that Dallas has cost themselves money by not signing him sooner.

Do you have additional information not reported publicly? Do you have special information no one else does? If so please elaborate.

Support your assertion that anything I've said requires insider information, or admit to red herring tactics.

 

[blueblood70]

Well it’s interesting how much inside information you claim to have.

All I can comment on is what has been reported. And according to what the Cowboys FO has said and what has been published in the local Dallas area newspapers, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, CBS sports and others, negotiations with Parsons STARTED around March 1st.

So if that’s when they started, the Cowboys waited a loooooong time to start. By waiting so long to even start official negotiations, they are losing money. It’s exactly what happened with Cedee Lamb and Dak.

I’m not holding only “one side of the fire”. I’m just speaking on what the Cowboys front office themselves have publicly said.

Do you have additional information not reported publicly? Do you have special information no one else does? If so please elaborate.

The problem with that is you're making your own assumptions of what you're reading you're still blaming the front office for holding this up all we know is no deal has been done up to this point nothing has been said of what the sticking points are not a single shred of evidence says that the Jones family are responsible for the late signings of any of those three players not single shred of evidence..​

We get it Bob,

those who truly hate the front office and the Jones family, and do everything they can on a daily basis to spread the narrative that everything done is their fault and 100% their fault, even if it's not true.. so if there's any opening, you'll blame the front office. I completely understand they make themselves easy targets but there's still no proof this is them holding this up..

I think that's the point most of us are trying to get through to you you're making this assumption on your own that they're holding up the deals when I see about 10 other examples of deals getting done smooth players got paid they were happy the team was happy the negotiations didn't hit any snags and more recently that would be OSA great deal for both sides why if they could get OSA done so easily?

Yet, they can't get parsons done? Diggs got done quickly, steele, and others.. MY assumption would be that would be Parsons and his agent, more likely his agent telling him he can't take less and why would you say that in public....

We've seen examples all over sports where players got frustrated and changed representation because of this type of stuff..​

So yeah, everything you read in public is what they wanted you to read, but nothing has pointed to the front office being the problem they don't give out details because most of this stuff is done in confidence if there's lawyers present which most agents are lawyers, they're not allowed to actually release this information, there's laws against it.

So why don't you find Micah, track him down and ask him directly what the hold up is, because until then we're all in the same spot we have nothing to go by except the deal has not been done...

And once again I'm not siding with the front office I'm just saying given we don't have facts putting blame on them just is too easy...

 

[CCBoy]

I think it's possible Jerry trades him. Jerry has never liked having a true alpha around especially one that questions his moves.

Deion Sanders and Charles Haley destroyed that perspective.

 

[Bobhaze]

Where have I claimed insider information? I stated they began negotions before Garret was signed. And specifically to the comment you chose to reply to, not one word in there would be a claim of insider information.

Garrett signed on March 9th. you in next paragraph state Cowboys began negotiations with Micah on March 1st.

I don't need insider information here Bob, just a calendar will do to see that one is before the other.




Not the same at all, and none of it changes anything I've said. Let's recap in bullet point.

• I said contract negations are a 3 party ordeal. Team, player, agent.
• I said Micah has repeatedly stated he doesn't need to be highest paid nor does he need to be at $40 mil a year

None of this required insider information as you claim.


But you are. I've not seen you call out the agent. I've not seen you call out Micah for saying he didn't need to be highest paid or $40 mil. Not once. Just some assertion that Dallas has cost themselves money by not signing him sooner.

Support your assertion that anything I've said requires insider information, or admit to red herring tactics.

Red Herring? I was just reporting when the Cowboys themselves said they started negotiations with Parsons. It has been widely documented.

Starting contract negotiations in March when they could have started last year, is late by any standard. It has cost them money and cap space by waiting. That’s not a mystery. And yes, the player and agent are part of the equation. But it’s up to the team to start negotiations.

I believe based on what I’ve seen reported that the Cowboys are too often late to negotiate contracts with people they know they want to sign. They have not been as proactive as many NFL teams who are have been very successful of late. Being proactive in the off-season is very important.

Bottom line - This is an opinion forum. You are welcome to have a differing opinion. And we can certainly agree to disagree.

 

[CCBoy]

The problem with that is you're making your own assumptions of what you're reading you're still blaming the front office for holding this up all we know is no deal has been done up to this point nothing has been said of what the sticking points are not a single shred of evidence says that the Jones family are responsible for the late signings of any of those three players not single shred of evidence..​

We get it Bob,

those who truly hate the front office and the Jones family, and do everything they can on a daily basis to spread the narrative that everything done is their fault and 100% their fault, even if it's not true.. so if there's any opening, you'll blame the front office. I completely understand they make themselves easy targets but there's still no proof this is them holding this up..

I think that's the point most of us are trying to get through to you you're making this assumption on your own that they're holding up the deals when I see about 10 other examples of deals getting done smooth players got paid they were happy the team was happy the negotiations didn't hit any snags and more recently that would be OSA great deal for both sides why if they could get OSA done so easily?

Yet, they can't get parsons done? Diggs got done quickly, steele, and others.. MY assumption would be that would be Parsons and his agent, more likely his agent telling him he can't take less and why would you say that in public....

We've seen examples all over sports where players got frustrated and changed representation because of this type of stuff..​

So yeah, everything you read in public is what they wanted you to read, but nothing has pointed to the front office being the problem they don't give out details because most of this stuff is done in confidence if there's lawyers present which most agents are lawyers, they're not allowed to actually release this information, there's laws against it.

So why don't you find Micah, track him down and ask him directly what the hold up is, because until then we're all in the same spot we have nothing to go by except the deal has not been done...

And once again I'm not siding with the front office I'm just saying given we don't have facts putting blame on them just is too easy...

lol, there is still no right way to do the wrong thing, agreed

Like yourself, I see just much good football directions going on. This all has to come together on the carpet. All of Jerry's past considered negatively doesn't change the real football facts in view.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Evaluations aren't excuses for blaming. I never let places go blameless and judge upon what goes on under that leader. Your appraisal is wrong as to my own values. Evaluations still are a system tool for improvement.

I am instead following team level values and staying open to those dynamics. The team is actually pretty damn good now and in another developmental phase. That is my focus and not a knee jerk blame it on Jerry. Oh, every one knows he has warts, but he also is a damn good owner with what is on hand and working here and now.

This is the off season where building is in full progress now. Not improving insult and blaming Jerry sophistication.

I'm a fan...GO COWBOYS!

what are the team level values? what has jerry done to show there is a culture of values and what those values are? we have seen, and its undisputable, that Jerry's priority is not championships, but maximizing profits and $value of the organization, the whole organization and many of the players in the building, are marketers first.

the team is not pretty damn good. they sucked. they went 7-10 last year, only beating up on the worst teams in the league. barely beating 3 teams with a winning record. beating up on the giants and browns of the NFL. they are far far far from being damn good.

and blaming Jerry is not a knee jerk reaction. there is no 30 year precedent that he sucks. he is the oldest GM in the NFL by 13 years. he has failed to put a team together to get to the CCG in 30 years. we are the 30th worst playoff appearance and record in the past 30 years..... you say its a knee jerk reaction? sorry CC, but you in your DNA are relentlessly supporting the leadership because that's what you have done all your life. you miss the forest because of the trees.. you just can't help yourself.

he is a good owner. but he is not a good GM...separate the two, because they are two different roles and you can't judge both the same way..

every season. every team builds. so why is this season any different than the past 30 years.

Jerry sucks. until he proves otherwise. I have 30 years of history to prove my point. you have hope and nothing but hope.

and I am just as big a fan. GO COWBOYS...criticizing the way this team operates doesn't make me less of a fan...and its fan like you that Jerry panders to.....selling hope, all in the name of maximizing profits. that's the game for Jerry now. not championships. they are not his primary goal any longer.

 

[CCBoy]

what are the team level values? what has jerry done to show there is a culture of values and what those values are? we have seen, and its undisputable, that Jerry's priority is not championships, but maximizing profits and $value of the organization, the whole organization and many of the players in the building, are marketers first.

the team is not pretty damn good. they sucked. they went 7-10 last year, only beating up on the worst teams in the league. barely beating 3 teams with a winning record. beating up on the giants and browns of the NFL. they are far far far from being damn good.

and blaming Jerry is not a knee jerk reaction. there is no 30 year precedent that he sucks. he is the oldest GM in the NFL by 13 years. he has failed to put a team together to get to the CCG in 30 years. we are the 30th worst playoff appearance and record in the past 30 years..... you say its a knee jerk reaction? sorry CC, but you in your DNA are relentlessly supporting the leadership because that's what you have done all your life. you miss the forest because of the trees.. you just can't help yourself.

he is a good owner. but he is not a good GM...separate the two, because they are two different roles and you can't judge both the same way..

every season. every team builds. so why is this season any different than the past 30 years.

Jerry sucks. until he proves otherwise. I have 30 years of history to prove my point. you have hope and nothing but hope.

and I am just as big a fan. GO COWBOYS...criticizing the way this team operates doesn't make me less of a fan...and its fan like you that Jerry panders to.....selling hope, all in the name of maximizing profits. that's the game for Jerry now. not championships. they are not his primary goal any longer.

Oh, you are correct...throw out the dog and just kick the wife. Big can go on diets also...

 

[Hadenough]

Deion Sanders and Charles Haley destroyed that perspective.

Thats because Jimmy was the Alpha to control those guys. Jerry is chicken chit that fired Rob Ryan over the phone so he wouldnt have to do it face to face. This is why this team never has a strong minded coach with backbone that is allowed to make decisions.

 

[CCBoy]

Thats because Jimmy was the Alpha to control those guys. Jerry is chicken chit that fired Rob Ryan over the phone so he wouldnt have to do it face to face. This is why this team never has a strong minded coach with backbone that is allowed to make decisions.

Differing times and standards change. Look at the white house, but that digressed. Jerry didn't.

 

[5Stars]

You don't have a real care if Jerry or the real status of his team.

I don't care as figuring out his implied, convenient description that you exhibit, I care about direction of actions. This isn't a German operation hiding V-1 rocket production, U-boat operations, or impenetrable concrete bunkers hiding special operations.

This is football and that requires repetitive elements that gives the coaching staff enough freedoms to allow their leadership to direct their teams.

Jerry does not limit his franchise from freedom to take and hold their own directions.

I follow directions of his team and stay current upon their techniques and ability to adjust to game conditions.

American pilots in Viet Nam, under Lyndon Johnson, were not allowed to buy law attack enemy launch sites such as Cambodia, where Chinese soldiers would attack from.

During Viet Nam, jets would avoid surface to air and circle back around and take out the tracking facility and then the launch vehicle. When pilots taught this to new pilots after ending the war in 1975 they taught this. Congress and Johnson started to throw them in prison.

That very technique was used in Dessert Storm and gave us air supperioty. So?

Air supperioty in football depending upon stationary launch or mobile launch. Taking out both defeated the Germans.

Mobility in passing or stationary quarterbacks work the same for dominance. I watch for team characteristics in the part of football.

The Army has long followed a break down of communicating actions and duties on the basis of task, conditions, and standards. Jerry learned these aspects as well as evaluations with after action analysis and reports.

No, Jerry has learned applications of his job well. His franchise is continually changing and getting better on the carpet. That still is called sports progress and footballl.

If one does not follow franchise progress, he ends up just a grumbling soldier and not a fan enjoying more pleasure than limited view and discussion only to a 30 year calendar.

I respect them and I their owner. I'll continue to follow attention to detail as I did in service!

This Vietnam stuff is a bunch of crap! Stop this crap, CCkid!

I was an Army Ranger during the Tet Offensive and none of what you wrote is true, it was an all out war. So take your little stories to the kids down the block that are still in school and tell your little fairy tales to them!

I'm so offended with your post that you are lucky their are mods otherwise I would really like to tell you what I think of you, period. Disgusting what you wrote, while I set here and remember my friend get his brains blown out of his head right beside as we went.

I so wish I could tell you in person that you are a disgusting person for even mentioning this.

I hope the mods do not delete this post since they did not delete the crap you wrote.

 

[CCBoy]

This Vietnam stuff is a bunch of crap! Stop this crap, CCkid!

I was an Army Ranger during the Tet Offensive and none of what you wrote is true, it was an all out war. So take your little stories to the kids down the block that are still in school and tell your little fairy tales to them!

I'm so offended with your post that you are lucky their are mods otherwise I would really like to tell you what I think of you, period. Disgusting what you wrote, while I set here and remember my friend get his brains blown out of his head right beside as we went.

I so wish I could tell you in person that you are a disgusting person for even mentioning this.

I hope the mods do not delete this post since they did not delete the crap you wrote.

You shut the hell up. I'm not bragging, you are.

Be a Joe, want an argument, go ahead and start.

Principal of organization is at topic...not one's own glory.

You Audie Murphy? Army

Who was the first Ace in the Air Force...do you know it all?

Ban me stud, you applied nothing about football. I do and confront the non-topic demeaning character included by yourself. Still no right way to do the wrong thing.

What is the free agency solution for wide receivers...I don't accept your personal insults. You don't brow beat this soldier. Just talk football. You argued service instead. That is YOURS.

So you say I am insult as a person.

That alone violates site insulting standards...do justify.

Steer back to football, guy. I still want a top receiver in the draft and a very strong running back, where the free agency is opening things up.

 

[CCBoy]

The lack of understanding above was on hidden dangers by an opponent (enemy) are designed to unknowingly attack attention and counters of an opponent. This new staff is expanding recognition and ability to counter game changers present today, if hidden by previous staffs leading. This group has team effective intensity for the Cowboys. In discussion, why that should be included in pre season discussion means it still is a good sport and a fan doesn't have take not winning instead of progress in view, for change.

 

[CCBoy]

This Vietnam stuff is a bunch of crap! Stop this crap, CCkid!

I was an Army Ranger during the Tet Offensive and none of what you wrote is true, it was an all out war. So take your little stories to the kids down the block that are still in school and tell your little fairy tales to them!

I'm so offended with your post that you are lucky their are mods otherwise I would really like to tell you what I think of you, period. Disgusting what you wrote, while I set here and remember my friend get his brains blown out of his head right beside as we went.

I so wish I could tell you in person that you are a disgusting person for even mentioning this.

I hope the mods do not delete this post since they did not delete the crap you wrote.

I had a great conversation with a retired Command Sergeant Major for the Seals, yesterday. We had a great conversation about the Cowboys. As you were.

 

[5Stars]

I had a great conversation with a retired Command Sergeant Major for the Seals, yesterday. We had a great conversation about the Cowboys. As you were.

No, Navy SEALs, as a specific unit within the Navy, do not have a Command Sergeant Major (CSM) position, as that is a rank and role primarily associated with the Army.

Get lost...