Jane Slater - It doesn't sound like Rico Dowdle will be back in Dallas

KJJ said:
You’re not going to get more impactful play than what Zeke did his first four seasons. He was a big reason Dak played well as a rookie. Had we not taken Zeke, Ramsey would have been the pick and he only lasted 5 years in Jax because he’s a malcontent.
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who cares how long he lasted in jax, he was the best corner in the league while there, AND netted them 2 first round picks lol.
 
Proof said:
who cares how long he lasted in jax, he was the best corner in the league while there, AND netted them 2 first round picks lol.
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They never got far with him. They went 3-13 his rookie year while Zeke helped the Cowboys rebound from 4-12 the previous season to tying a franchise record with 13 wins that led to the number one seed. In every season but one Jacksonville had a losing season with Ramsey. We would have never been as good with Ramsey.
 
KJJ said:
Those first round picks did nothing for them. Go check their record. :thumbup:
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again, irrelevant. if we're taking into account total picture it's even less reasonable. but appears we've run our course.
 
Proof said:
again, irrelevant. if we're taking into account total picture it's even less reasonable. but appears we've run our course.
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We had a bigger need at RB, especially after Romo went down. Yes, this has run its course.
 
KJJ said:
We had a bigger need at RB, especially after Romo went down. Yes, this has run its course.
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Exactly, it's almost a mirror to what happened in 2015 they used a running back by committee with McFadden and he got 1000 yards but they were impressive yards I don't remember what his touchdowns were and the very next draft here comes Ezekiel Elliott and he was great at the time I don't question to pick like people up there I really don't care they really believe if we would have got Ramsey that miracles would have happened and exactly Derrick Henry would have fell to us and we would have got our guy there but that's not the truth once you start messing with how the draft unfolded in the first round and we skip Elliott it changes a lot of things by the time we get there henry probably would have been available..

But given they tried the same thing this year running back by committee had a less than stellar back and I like Rico, but the dude only has four touchdowns in four years he had two last year one catch one run... that's just not home run impact type plays.. He's a red flag he's a nice player but he doesn't score enough he doesn't have enough chunk plays and the guy has his best season on a contract year it was his only healthy season Ricos not worth 6M IMHO..​
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This is why they need to move on and then moving on from him is usually a sign they're going to do something in the draft or bring in a bigger name.....​
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you can get that from a lot of players if they're healthy they give them enough carries they can put out that kind of production..​
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we need a high impact guy most likely in the draft once again, I don't know where first or second round hopefully no later than the third round there are a lot of really good backs this year and they will like usual have a great back on this team going all the way back to Jerry's first years with Herschel Walker and everybody after, we've had great running backs most seasons...​

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KJJ said:
We had a bigger need at RB, especially after Romo went down. Yes, this has run its course.
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there were other picks or ways to fill running back. our line was still great, other options were available and could have used such a valuable pick in a better manner.
 
Proof said:
there were other picks or ways to fill running back. our line was still great, other options were available and could have used such a valuable pick in a better manner.
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Why are we still discussing something that happened way back in 2015 like it's life or death you guys are discussing this it doesn't matter but Darren McFadden was still a good back, he had over 1000 yards, that team was horrible because when you lost Romo there was other injuries as well they had enough guys on the roster I mean remember meat on the bone guy Randall whatever his name was, he was there, there were others but when everyone knows you don't have a quarterback and can't throw they just stack the box and then snuff you out...​
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But this year was more like 2020 too many injuries along the offensive line the quarterback out for the year, didn't draft or bring in a big name running back, but like 2015 they will correct it with a Drafted RB like they did with Zeke in rounds 1-3..

Right now,

this coaching staff is bringing players in they think can help run their offense whether it's just for camp whether it's for competition or one of them might win but we have now replaced Rico and zeke with Williams and Miles sanders in on the way.

Now draft your potential starter maybe Vaughn fight Malik Davis for spot.. You realize Malik Davis is taking a similar path Rico did, Rico after four years finally had a good season, but he still only had four touchdowns in four years only two touchdowns last year and one was a bobbled catch that was also his fault it was bobbled but he got the touchdown that's pretty sad 2 touchdowns all year with all those carries he never had impact plays or home runs so maybe these other guys will be a little bit better in that category...​

The competition will be wide open i believe this new staff is bringing over their type of players...

And yes, they will draft a player in rounds one through 3 running back is coming there are so many really good ones in this draft I don't think they can miss even if they waited till the third round I prefer a second round running back but you got to take BPA.. But these pickups also keep you from having to reach and say you're like desperate to get one in the first round..
 
Proof said:
there were other picks or ways to fill running back. our line was still great, other options were available and could have used such a valuable pick in a better manner.
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What pick are you talking about way back in 2015?

Are you debating they shouldn't have took Ezekiel Elliott ?!

are you still harping on that he was one of the best running backs to come out of College in a very long time, and typically those guys go in the top ten and many went in the top five just because he had a lot of mileage on him and got used up in the first four years(which BTW could happen to Jeanty!!)) and injuries finally caught up..

the man was still worth picking there, if you really think they should've took Ramsey's and somehow Henry still would've been there in the second round he probably wouldn't have, once you start changing your pick the rest of the league would as well, it changes the draft order and available players..​
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You take the talent when its there! EE should've got offensive rookie of the year, Not Dak but he was that good. His first four years in the league he was the best running back in the league... If not for the suspension he would have won three straight rushing titles out of college.. I'd say he was worth the pick.. No hindsight no looking back he was worth the pick..​
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The issue was never where they picked him it was the contract they gave him..it happens​
 
Proof said:
there were other picks or ways to fill running back. our line was still great, other options were available and could have used such a valuable pick in a better manner.
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You said wanted to agree to disagree and that the discussion ran its course. Then let it go. :rolleyes:
 
KJJ said:
Not sure how long you’ve been following the team but Zeke was a great pick. He had four 1000 yard seasons, including three over 1300 yards. He led the league in rushing his rookie year. He didn’t last long but that doesn’t make him a bad pick. Dez only had three real good seasons.
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100%

he was the best back in the NFL his first four years, he would have won three straight crowns, don't leave out 2018, he led the league that year as well. if not for that suspension which he still led the league in rushing yards per game,, kind of put him in a funk but it was really injuries because he looked really good the first half of both 2020 and 2021, but he got bashed in knees he had a lot of mileage.. I agree with you was not a bad pick the guy was the best running back in the league his first Four Seasons the problem here he's being looked at as be negative for this team because the team went out and handed him a little too much money they got nothing for it it was the contract that ruined his reputation but the dude has numbers in his career that are better than Terrell Davis..

I know Terrell Davis probably was a slightly better back but he was also on a better team for the most part but I just use that as an example we got a Hall of Famer and we got a guy here that somehow is being looked at as a bad pick because they're still hung up on jalen Ramsey's with they believe they could have got Henry but they forget if you change who you pick and everybody after you changes who they pick the chances of Henry being there when they pick were probably not going to happen so who else will we ended up with you pick the talent when they're there and he was there and I agree with you Ezekiel Elliott was not a bad pick...
 
KJJ said:
It’s you who keeps responding with nonsense. If you want the last word then take it. :rolleyes:
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no. i've responded with clear straight forward compelling arguments. you've just repeated the same thing over and over with no nuance, or understanding. and have now resorted to eyerolling like a sassy broad. good stuff
 
Proof said:
no. i've responded with clear straight forward compelling arguments. you've just repeated the same thing over and over with no nuance, or understanding. and have now resorted to eyerolling like a sassy broad. good stuff
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Zzzzzzz
 
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