Milton will push the cowboys over the top

[dupree89]

JOE milton??????

his father teamed up with Bill Bradley of Knicks fame to form the board game company Milton Bradley

 

[Kingofholland]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

I appreciate the optimism, but it's way too early to know much. He's played in 1 regular season game and he showed well.

Remember that game or 2 Mike White balled out and fans wondered why we didn't keep him around? Yeah that didn't last long. We should temper expectations, but be excited we got a young QB to develop and see where it goes.

 

[fivetwos]

Good points. That's part of why 2028 is the most realistic point for cutting him, even though $17 million of his base for that year guarantees in 2027.

By then, we should have a real good idea of whether we want to move on with Milton or draft a first-round QB. If he's the primary backup he'll likely have gotten the reps he's needed and even had to play in some regular-season games.

I don't think the timing is wrong. They get a backup for three years to their highly-paid quarterback, with the opportunity to see if he can show that he should be more than that. If he does, they could get back a return on investment or could have a relatively cheap starter with some experience in place (for possibly a reasonable re-sign) when it becomes feasible to part ways with Dak.

All fair, but IS he a backup? or a developmental guy?

There’s a difference. Rush was a backup, Lance was a developmental guy.

Last year, with the season lost when Dak went down, they traded yet another 4th for a WR well on his way to bustville, then said Rush would start because they were trying to win games.

Have they done a 180 on this idea? Is the guy they paid even less for going to start if it happens the same way this year? What if they are 4-2 and Dak is out for 2-3 games? Milton or the veteran?

My complaint isn’t about Milton. I like him and have heard good things from people I respect. My issue is their plan is all over the damn map. They shouldnt have resigned Dak, at least not when they did, if this was how they wanted to go.

Even if Milton gets the shot to prove himself and does, there’s no way of escaping the massive dead money, void years, and no avenue at all to take advantage of Milton’s rookie deal.

I’m really mixed. Happy to have him here at that price, wish our FO could see more than one move ahead at times.

 

[blueblood70]

Good points. That's part of why 2028 is the most realistic point for cutting him, even though $17 million of his base for that year guarantees in 2027.

By then, we should have a real good idea of whether we want to move on with Milton or draft a first-round QB. If he's the primary backup he'll likely have gotten the reps he's needed and even had to play in some regular-season games.

I don't think the timing is wrong. They get a backup for three years to their highly-paid quarterback, with the opportunity to see if he can show that he should be more than that. If he does, they could get back a return on investment or could have a relatively cheap starter with some experience in place (for possibly a reasonable re-sign) when it becomes feasible to part ways with Dak.

They usually can get out of Prescott's contract if they want to after 2026

I agree with you there that would be the first time they would consider it depends on how he's playing in his health I mean if Denver could eat Russell Wilson's contract so can the Cowboys eat Prescotts..

at least you have to get 2 years out of him and then we'll see how this kid plays but that doesn't even stop us this is such a good trade from looking in the draft in the fifth round and if one of these quarterbacks slipped to the fifth round..

I would take him, I would take some of these guys that are on the list that should go anywhere between 3rd and 5th and if they're in the 5th, I would take them.. This is the time to do that where you think your quarterback has one to three years left getting up in age making too much money and again depending on his quality of play on the field, they'll have some decisions to make after 2026..

 

[garyo1954]

Remember when Flynn went off for 400 yards, 6 TDs vs the Lions and signed for $20 mill the next year with Seattle?

In 1991 Marinovich came in the last game of the season for the Raiders, put up 250, 3TDs. Next season in 7 Games he is 5TDs, 9 picks and done.

Plenty of one and done players as caution. Belichicks favorite, Jonas Grey, who went from 200 rushing yards, 4 TDs to the bench in one week.

The legend of one game wonders is Timmy Smith.

We had Kevin Ogletree who popped off 80 Yards and 3 TDs in a season opener and poof! Pulls the Houdini.

Be happy! Be optimistic! But don't let one game fool you.

 

[Bobhaze]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

Joe Milton has one whole NFL start. And in a league literally starved for QBs who can play, he was a sixth round pick last year. Not knocking him at all but this is a project player not a plug and play guy.

Maybe we need to tap the brakes a little before naming this guy as the next Roger or Troy. Hopefully he develops. But let’s hold off on getting the bust and gold jacket lined up.

 

[slick325]

Cowboys!

(I do like the trade for a developmental QB with upside, though.)

 

[MapleLeaf]

Milton isn’t here to replace Dak ! He’s here as Rush’s replacement but cheaper and more upside

Is it possible sure but doubtful and if it happens that’s a win

MIlton is here because there is more arm talent to work with than Rush.

The rest is now up to Joe and the coaches. If Dak gets hurt we are more than likely going to lose games unless Milton decides to become a legitimate NFL starter.

 

[Londonboy]

I see a combination of Usain Bolt and Jan Zelezny, it remains to be seen if He can play QB.

 

[blueblood70]

Remember when Flynn went off for 400 yards, 6 TDs vs the Lions and signed for $20 mill the next year with Seattle?

In 1991 Marinovich came in the last game of the season for the Raiders, put up 250, 3TDs. Next season in 7 Games he is 5TDs, 9 picks and done.

Plenty of one and done players as caution. Belichicks favorite, Jonas Grey, who went from 200 rushing yards, 4 TDs to the bench in one week.

The legend of one game wonders is Timmy Smith.

We had Kevin Ogletree who popped off 80 Yards and 3 TDs in a season opener and poof! Pulls the Houdini.

Be happy! Be optimistic! But don't let one game fool you.

As much as I appreciate your memory of NFL history, and players like this they're not the same, this kids three-year contract is only worth about $4 million total there is no fifth year option, like we did with Lance, there is no Cooper rush in his way, so he's not on his way to $20 million because of one game, because he's going to play more than one game apparently before that happens,

this is more like cautiously optimistic because you saw guys like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield a little different story but even him resurrected their careers at quarterback when they were all deemed possible bust alerts.

They're simply stating that he they can see the upside I see the Cam Newton comp , everyone else is mentioning weird quarterbacks comps but he's built like him he looks like him seem to have the same style and swagger..

I'm not saying they could become the same player but I can see him develop into that and we have plenty of time before he's a one and done I don't get why you said that even though I appreciate it because he's coming here fighting will grier for the backup spot he didn't just come over here for $20 million because of what he did with one game...

At worst maybe we get a Joshua Dobbs or a tyrod Taylor and he could be a really good backup for a while just like Cooper rush was but these are better comps that I'm mentioning because they have similar body styles and similar play styles it can't hurt if we have a creative OC and a creative head coach that maybe brings this guy in for packages kind of like they use or have used taysom hill in NO.. That way you can get him some playing time especially in garbage time or games or add a hand one way or the other or if you're QB gets hurt he would be Next up as far as today goes I don't know if they're bringing in a veteran back up they might...

People are people are looking at him as a potential upside project, because of his one game not a starter this year, so it doesn't match your statements, don't match te actual situation at all....

 

[MapleLeaf]

Joe Milton has one whole NFL start. And in a league literally starved for QBs who can play, he was a sixth round pick last year. Not knocking him at all but this is a project player not a plug and play guy.

Maybe we need to tap the brakes a little before naming this guy as the next Roger or Troy. Hopefully he develops. But let’s hold off on getting the bust and gold jacket lined up.

It seems that perspective has been lost here by some fans. When we say Milton it should be in connection with Rush and cheap contract for the next few years.

Joe Milton is a cheaper backup QB with more physical arm talent than Cooper Rush. That is it.

If we are expecting anything else we are deluded. Only Joe can change the narrative right now, and one NFL game isn't enough for me. Let's see what comes out of Tc and pre-season before we get all worked up here.

 

[Hadenough]

We get a new QB and all of a sudden Trey Lance Part 2. begins? Let's wait and see him play a bit!!


I understand the excitement, but let's pump the brakes!! (Pump the brakes, sounds like a good thread to start

The brakes aren't working!

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

Im wondering when I can get his jersey.

 

[5Stars]

I don't understand the concern, but this isn't as bad as it looks everyone keeps acting like he's been hurt a lot and he gets banged up he's in one of those positions especially with a lack of explosive run game and explosive #2 target some bad separation bad play calling...

I mean there's a lot of reasons why he's gotten hurt but it was 2020 when he had a major injury, he played three straight years where he started and finished the season.. he had a one game one of the years he missed in a couple games in 2022, but he came back and played way better than Cooper rush when he got back in I don't want to hear about the interceptions, the man played really well he brought the offense from the bottom of the cellar back to the top five, that's a fact...

Just stepping back to 2020, let's remember how familiar that was the defense was horrible to start the season they would have to have a high scoring losses he was trying to keep him in games and he got hurt; the offensive line was in shambles, they were falling down all over the place, in 2021 nobody thought he would start that season and have such a good season but he did; 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions one of his best seasons..

That's what I'm expecting, he's working hard this isn't Tony Romo Tony romo's back issues are harder to deal with than some of these other injuries that Daks had.

plus daks and way better shape, I don't want to hear about the comps between the two, there is no comp when it comes to their body types, and Prescott looks like he's even working extra hard this offseason... I mean he's in tremendous shape as far as pictures go.. so if we're going to be negative around here every time we see a guy with his shirt off like Zeke and call him fat... this dude's in like great shape doesn't have the dad Bod that we saw with Romo, big ben, or Tom Brady or right now it looks like Patrick Mahomes is living off the fumes of his past championships because he doesn't look like he's in very good shape either.

I'm not saying that all this means he won't get hurt, but I'm just telling you he's working hard to make sure he's giving himself the best chance that he's not going to come out and get hurt this year.... I mean you can't plan for it but you could definitely put your body in really good shape and then get in really good conditioning could help.. That's a freak injury with the hamstring that doesn't happen very often. It's also a freak injury when someone tackles you and then just lays all their weight on your ankle. it's just a bad coincidence when something like that happens...​

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it's the NFL dudes are big and fast and sometimes you get hurt but this is not like he's injury prone in that kind of way again he started three straight years after 2020... I've seen Joe Burrow since college be just as hurt just as banged up if you look around you can start looking at that at other quarterbacks and other positions around the NFL it just happens...​

Of course! Why didn't you say that the first time?

 

[5Stars]

The overreaction here is hilarious.

The Cowboys swap two late round picks to get a long term developmental project that will vie for the number 2 QB spot and suddenly he's the answer to three decades of misery.

I am rooting for Milton and I truly hope he is Dak's eventual successor. But if he has to play right away.....we're screwed.

We're just as screwed with Dak playing, so what is your point?

 

[blueblood70]

It seems that perspective has been lost here by some fans. When we say Milton it should be in connection with Rush and cheap contract for the next few years.

Joe Milton is a cheaper backup QB with more physical arm talent than Cooper Rush. That is it.

If we are expecting anything else we are deluded. Only Joe can change the narrative right now, and one NFL game isn't enough for me. Let's see what comes out of Tc and pre-season before we get all worked up here.

I can get on board with that and I can take it further..

I don't think Lance got a good enough chance here because Cooper rush was in his way..

if he'd have got those opportunities maybe we'd have saw a little bit larger picture of what he had and right now it's a different situation we don't only have half of a season or two seasons and we had to pick up a fifth year option and overpay for Lance and then he never had correct opportunity to back up the starter that is the upside here and he has more upside and more physical athletic talent...

Almost to a point that I could see him having more mop up duty opportunities more garbage time but I can also see them trying to get them in in packages like they brought in taysom hill in New Orleans, nothing wrong with trying to get his feet wet in smaller sample sizes, but in real live games against real talent ,not just the preseason or scrimmages...

For me the odd thing or the irony here is he would have been a more perfect fit for the Ravens a lot more like LJ than Cooper rush... In my opinion that's a really strange pick up for them but hey maybe they at the time were looking in the middle and and maybe New England didn't wanna help the Ravens and wouldn't come off the third round pick whereas the Cowboys are in the NFC they were more willing to do it for less... It's a low risk trade and i like it and i'm not overthinking like the OP that's crazy..lol.

 

[ShortRound]

lol.

 

[fivetwos]

They usually can get out of Prescott's contract if they want to after 2026

I agree with you there that would be the first time they would consider it depends on how he's playing in his health I mean if Denver could eat Russell Wilson's contract so can the Cowboys eat Prescotts..

at least you have to get 2 years out of him and then we'll see how this kid plays but that doesn't even stop us this is such a good trade from looking in the draft in the fifth round and if one of these quarterbacks slipped to the fifth round..

I would take him, I would take some of these guys that are on the list that should go anywhere between 3rd and 5th and if they're in the 5th, I would take them.. This is the time to do that where you think your quarterback has one to three years left getting up in age making too much money and again depending on his quality of play on the field, they'll have some decisions to make after 2026..

It really all depends on how much playing time Milton actually gets over the next two seasons, and more importantly, what’s going on with Prescott.

The salary guarantee 18 months in advance is problematic, but can be worked around if you can talk him into being traded.

Dak could be fine in the right situation in a QB starved league, and there are often teams that are built to win but are missing a QB.

I can see that eventually. I’m slightly coming around to it because I do like Milton and his upside, and the cost was low. Overall it was worth doing, but again, it feels as if they can’t see more than one move ahead considering they JUST resigned Dak. You don’t typically go out and trade for a QBs successor a few months after signing him to a four year deal.

 

[TheCritic]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

Congratulations! In one single post, you managed to out-troll Coog Bayless! That’s quite a feat!!

 

[noshame]

The important question being who finally convinced the Joneses that Dak is not the guy, because that much is obvious by now.
I think it might have been Schottenheimer

The overreaction here is hilarious.

The Cowboys swap two late round picks to get a long term developmental project that will vie for the number 2 QB spot and suddenly he's the answer to three decades of misery.

I am rooting for Milton and I truly hope he is Dak's eventual successor. But if he has to play right away.....we're

Beats being thrown under the bus yearly

 

[gimmesix]

They usually can get out of Prescott's contract if they want to after 2026

I agree with you there that would be the first time they would consider it depends on how he's playing in his health I mean if Denver could eat Russell Wilson's contract so can the Cowboys eat Prescotts..

at least you have to get 2 years out of him and then we'll see how this kid plays but that doesn't even stop us this is such a good trade from looking in the draft in the fifth round and if one of these quarterbacks slipped to the fifth round..

I would take him, I would take some of these guys that are on the list that should go anywhere between 3rd and 5th and if they're in the 5th, I would take them.. This is the time to do that where you think your quarterback has one to three years left getting up in age making too much money and again depending on his quality of play on the field, they'll have some decisions to make after 2026..

It would be a big eat in 2026 and 2027, though. I mean, since his 2026 salary is already fully guaranteed, it would cost $129 million to cut him after this year ($74 million to keep him, if it's not restructured). Then, if he's here through next March 16 (when his base guarantees), it would cost us $95 million to cut him ($68 million) to keep.

Best bet if we wanted to get out from under his contract before 2028 would be to get him to waive his no-trade clause, which means someone else would take on that $40 million base. Of course, we'd still be responsible for his bonus money, so the hit would be at least $55 million (with no restructure next year). Of course, that would be a $13 million cap savings.