Swapping 5th for 7th chart value

[Cowboyny]

5th #171 value = 23

7th #217 value = 4.2

23 - 4.2 = 18.8

5th pick in 6th round, value = 18.6

Summary: They traded the equivalent of about the 5th pick of the 6th round for QB Joe Milton.

Contract with Cowboys:
3 years
1.06M average
Zero guaranteed

Excellent value trade, got younger, cheaper and more upside in the process. Their best move this offseason

 

[CCBoy]

5th #171 value = 23

7th #217 value = 4.2

23 - 4.2 = 18.8

5th pick in 6th round, value = 18.6

Summary: They traded the equivalent of about the 5th pick of the 6th round for QB Joe Milton.

Contract with Cowboys:
3 years
1.06M average
Zero guaranteed

Good deal, huh...

 

[CCBoy]

Good question. Looks like a preseason battle between the 2 likely settle the matter.

Answer: the pre season is just the beginning of observations and adjustment.

 

[TwentyOne]

Don’t know if the math checks out

Seriously?

Thats a simple substraction. Thats 2nd grade at most.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The problem is with any of you thinking the Cowboys do good at drafting 4-7th round. WTH is wrong with you, how do you keep your blinders on? Why are you so brained?

24- Carson, Flournoy, Thomas, Rogers.
23- Fehoko, Richard’s, Scott, Vaughn, Brooks,
22- Ferguson, Waletzgo, Bland, Clark , Rodgeway, Harper,
21- Ball, Fehoko, Bohanna, Maquamu, Farinok,
20- Robinson, Biadasz,Anai, Dinucci,

Are y’all that blind, or is the football intelligence in here so far beyond elementary that this is pointless to argue.
THE COWBOYS DO NOT DRAFT GOOD PAST THE FIRST COUPLE ROUNDS, and that’s questionable!!!!!

Do you realize how many actual NFL starters there are in that group?

 

[DuncanIso]

The problem is this really isn’t a high ceiling guy.

I like the trade. I liked the Lance deal too. But with Lance you had a bust. With Milton you have a guy who was even worse. 6th rounder who in college lost his job to two different quarterbacks. It’s just not a real threat to Dak or as a real future QB of this team. I hope I’m wrong and we are lucky to find another guy. But I’m certainly not faulting the Cowboys. Jerry finally got one over on someone.

You can’t compare Lance and Milton.

Not even close.

Jerry couldn’t afford Lance.

He can afford the budget special from the Pats.

 

[DuncanIso]

I also think/hope that our backup QB will be based on the situation. Meaning if we’re in the middle of a game I’d be more comfortable seeing Grier. If Dak misses multiple games and we’re not in playoff contention then I want Milton to get as many real games reps as possible.

Now if Milton plays lights out in the preseason then obviously I’d want Milton QB2 for any situation. If there’s not a lot of difference in PS between Grier and Milton then I hope they consider the situation.

#Grier

 

[DuncanIso]

I also think/hope that our backup QB will be based on the situation. Meaning if we’re in the middle of a game I’d be more comfortable seeing Grier. If Dak misses multiple games and we’re not in playoff contention then I want Milton to get as many real games reps as possible.

Now if Milton plays lights out in the preseason then obviously I’d want Milton QB2 for any situation. If there’s not a lot of difference in PS between Grier and Milton then I hope they consider the situation.

Grier was a 3rd round pick.

His draft bio is missing the word “disturbing,” unlike Milton.

Neither are good options.

 

[Califan007]

Are y’all that blind, or is the football intelligence in here so far beyond elementary that…

Wouldn’t a “so far beyond elementary” intelligence be, like, a Masters degree in football? lol…

 

[speedkilz88]

If you go back to last years draft, Cowboys had no shot to draft Milton in the 6th round. They took CB Caelen Carson in the 5th round and then NE took Milton in the 6th before the Cowboys picked again. Cowboys drafted WR Ryan Flournoy with their 6th.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You can’t compare Lance and Milton.

Not even close.

Jerry couldn’t afford Lance.

He can afford the budget special from the Pats.

They’re the same type of quarterback. Guys with tools who have issues with accuracy

 

[CCBoy]

They’re the same type of quarterback. Guys with tools who have issues with accuracy

The game changes at the professional level and new skills always have to be learned. Not a college number with no more than entertainment issues.

 

[coult44]

Wouldn’t a “so far beyond elementary” intelligence be, like, a Masters degree in football? lol…

It was a 5 drinks in, midnight analogy. lol. But the sentiment is still true lol. Why do Cowboys fans care about who the Cowboys draft after round three? It’s almost a guarantee garbage pick.

 

[coult44]

Do you realize how many actual NFL starters there are in that group?

Three, everyone else is wayyyyy below mattering. Ferguson,Bland, Biadasz,

 

[dcstar]

Mr Purdy was Mr Irrelevant

Go Cowboys!

 

[Mighty8888]

I like kyle mccord who is projected to go in the 5th round, but there is no guarantee he will be there. He may still be there when the cowboys pick, and depending what the cowboys draft, i may still take him even with having milton. Just depends, cause there is a lot of defensive tackles that are 5th round worthy, and the cowboys need help there.

 

[blueblood70]

Here's my question;
Who is our back up QB when Dak goes down?
This is a developmental guy, not a solid number 2.

OK let me throw one out I know it's going to be weird hypothetical for you guys.

but I get tired of hearing all this from you all ,

you guys play both sides of the fence all the time... I don't think Cooper rush was going to give us much value and keep an injured team on track and do much,

I don't think many of the backups in the league and I looked at all of them, there aren't anybody in the league as a backup that can carry your team unless he's on a loaded team and they're barely going to drop from the starter gap to the backup gap because they can cover it up with a run game ,great offensive line ,and great defense...

sometimes that happens like Nick Foles he's not a great quarterback, but he was on a team that could cover up the fact that they lost their starter.

That's the thing again go look around I mean I can post I got some screenshots of all the backups in the league none of them are that impressive,

but here's my argument,

why would you want your backup to be anything but developmental unless you're a guaranteed deep playoff run, a true team with a chance at going to the Super bowl??

everyone around here with hypocrisy vibes, if we're not that close, then don't you want to have a developmental backup quarterback that could get real snaps in live games over a stretch that gives us a good shot of who he is, so that way when we get a high draft pick for having a bad year, then maybe we pick a quarterback or maybe we don't because then we can get a real long look at the guy.. but isn't that the point doesn't?​

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you want to organically tank without tanking, don't you want to finish higher in the draft someone like Cooper Rush won us a couple extra games that we probably would have picked 9th had we had a worse quarterback there ,and maybe even got better talent this year in the draft.​

So I'm not a person who agrees with the whole tank premise, it's fake, you don't want to tank on purpose but you do want to develop players when you have a chance and I think Cooper rush was in the way of Trey Lance last year...

there's a reason he's getting another shot with the chargers he needs to play live games real games where he's not coming in as a decoy and runs the football every once in a while, he needs to be able to run the offense he needs to fail before he can succeed but he needs to do it in real situations.​

But isn't that what Cowboys fans want if your starters start going down why try to save the season why not try to get a higher draft pick and at the same time develop players that is the perfect time to develop players and Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones made a mistake last year in my opinion... They should have demoted Cooper rush to third and allowed Trey Lance who made about the same amount of money, so this is not about money, and let him play all those snaps we may not have needed to pick up Milton this year, if we really saw Trey Lance for that long stretch.

Worst case scenario, the Cowboys are picking 9th instead of 12th, I thought that's what people around here have wanted to talk about all the tanking if you lose your starting quarterback on most teams for the year or for a stretch like a long stretch you're probably not making it far in the playoffs anyway if not probably missing the playoffs.

that is a perfect time to utilize a developmental player but especially at quarterback they need not preseason games and practice and scrimmages they need real games true real games where it's on the line ,where you have a game plan ,and you're really trying to run the offense, reading real defenses, that is what it's supposed to be about...

That is why there are players that have found their careers later on like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold because they played so many games as backups but got real time they also were spot starters long enough that they started getting better and then all of a sudden now they have a career and even Baker's Mayfield was able to resurrect his career although he was already better than those guys...

At worst this guy can end up turning into a guy like Joshua Dobbs, so I think it's a good comp for him or maybe Tyrod Taylor, because they're poor man's versions of Cam Newton.. this guy's body is built like Cam Newton not Lamar Jackson not thin and lean you know like Trey Lance he could probably also be used a lot like Taysom hill..

 

[big dog cowboy]

Three

You're low.

 

[coult44]

You're low.

Cause you’re standard has been set so low.

 

[dupree89]

OMG please, please quit with starting posts about Joe Milton. Its SMALL, MINOR trade. Please I beg can we stop with the J Milton topics. Please.