Let's not forget the top prospects when we started our draft prep

"Prospect fatigue" is a dismissive term downplaying the the entire process of player evaluation. If you can't dispute the knocks on a player then it's valid the player falls down the board.
i mean the "entire process" is cumulative and the bulk of it is done prior to the combine. sure it can be valid, but it's not dismissive when years of tape and evaluation and production are suddenly minimized.
 
People think tape is being dismissed because when experts talk to actual teams teams tell them they're wrong lol.
 
if you're talking to me, that's not what i'm saying at all. there are plenty of valid reasons for a prospect to fall or be overvalued. but chalking it up to the entire process of player evaluation has to include the bulk of the player evaluation. it's just not a logical argument.
 
i mean the "entire process" is cumulative and the bulk of it is done prior to the combine. sure it can be valid, but it's not dismissive when years of tape and evaluation and production are suddenly minimized.
Sounds like you're implying guys are shooting up or down the board due to the Combine and they should. The Combine exposes player's injuries, football IQ, mental make-up, competitiveness, and puts guys side by side to see who's the best. Nobody is minimizing the tape or year's of evaluation because it is the bulk of the analysis, but the Combine can separate prospects due to aspects outside the tape. Remember these guys have to be culture fits behind the scenes.
 
Sounds like you're implying guys are shooting up or down the board due to the Combine and they should. The Combine exposes player's injuries, football IQ, mental make-up, competitiveness, and puts guys side by side to see who's the best. Nobody is minimizing the tape or year's of evaluation because it is the bulk of the analysis, but the Combine can separate prospects due to aspects outside the tape. Remember these guys have to be culture fits behind the scenes.
yeah, it's a non stop process and the combine exists for those very reasons. it's just wild when certain guys are heralded their entire college careers, or throughout the season, and then fall out of favor so easily.

but that's why these guys are paid so much to evaluate. i'd make for a horrible scout.
 
Golden, Membou, Waker etc are all nice and fun. Combine warriors always climb up the draft board.
I wouldn't call Golden a combine warrior. Sure, he got some attention for that 40 time, but he was highly productive on the field against the best competition.
 
I wouldn't call Golden a combine warrior. Sure, he got some attention for that 40 time, but he was highly productive on the field against the best competition.
Walker, Membou, and Golden were already creating buzz prior to the Combine. Everyone was still getting to the tape of all these players and all 3 didn't even need to blow up the Combine because you see it on tape. The Combine just solidified them.
 
Last edited:
There is such a thing as “draft prospect fatigue”, imo. It results in people looking for faults in blue chip prospects.

It’s the only way I can explain the multiple “have we considered that Jeanty might actually be slow and fat?” threads I’ve seen recently.
 
There is such a thing as “draft prospect fatigue”, imo. It results in people looking for faults in blue chip prospects.

It’s the only way I can explain the multiple “have we considered that Jeanty might actually be slow and fat?” threads I’ve seen recently.
Jeanty detractors are few and far between. Using him as an example is flawed. Not to mention he hasn't moved much on the consensus nor public opinion. The only people that fell out of the top 10 by fans and pundits are tet and will johnson. Everybody else is pretty much where they started as far as the top 10
 
i mean the "entire process" is cumulative and the bulk of it is done prior to the combine. sure it can be valid, but it's not dismissive when years of tape and evaluation and production are suddenly minimized.
A reputation of having a lack of work ethic is a hard think to overcome.
 
100% and we could most likely trade down and still get him.
I think that is the plan with all the receivers. Trade back and draft the highest rated one out of Tet, Burden, Ebuka, and Golden that makes it to their pick.
 
You'd be hard pressed to find a draft person who hasn't soured on tet. You think they all just have prospect fatigue with him and noone else? Maybe....just maybe he's not who you think. Just a thought
T-Mac remains the odds on favorite to be the 1st receiver taken, excluding Hunter who many view as a corner.
 
He was the most productive receiver in the class
He takes plays off when the ball is not going to him. He runs poor routes. Does he actually get open or just use his size to catch the ball? He does not have adequate speed.
 
T-Mac remains the odds on favorite to be the 1st receiver taken, excluding Hunter who many view as a corner.
The point is he went from like 3 to 12. If the drop is that big some obviously have him alot lower than 12 based on math. He's not Mel's number 1. He's not Matt millers. Need I keep naming?
 
"Prospect fatigue" is a dismissive term downplaying the the entire process of player evaluation. If you can't dispute the knocks on a player then it's valid the player falls down the board.
It’s more so referencing the players that have been top 10 picks for a very long time…that are still considered top 10 players.

TMac, Campbell, etc…

If a player has been considered a unanimous top 10 player for that long and people are starting to nitpick just to nitpick that’s what I’d consider prospect fatigue IMO.

Happens every year and it’s non sense.
 
The point is he went from like 3 to 12. If the drop is that big some obviously have him alot lower than 12 based on math. He's not Mel's number 1. He's not Matt millers. Need I keep naming?
They were the ones having him as a top 5 prospect, now they probably heard from their sources, he is more of a top 15 player. Dane who is one of the best has him at 12, Golden at 15, which makes the most sense. It really comes down to what type of receiver a team wants
 
I wouldn't call Golden a combine warrior. Sure, he got some attention for that 40 time, but he was highly productive on the field against the best competition.
Dude never had a 1000 yard season and played 2 years for Houston prior.

He’s the epitome of a combine riser.

I really like him as a prospect but his production profile is awful for a top 15 consideration.
 
He takes plays off when the ball is not going to him. He runs poor routes. Does he actually get open or just use his size to catch the ball? He does not have adequate speed.
He has plenty of speed for a player of his size and has a huge catch radius. Does he need to improve his route runner? Yes, but so do most young receivers. Cannot discount his production
 
Back
Top