Tyron Smith to sign one day contract to retire as a Cowboy

GINeric said:
They will both go into the Hall of Fame together.
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Zack is a first ballot lock. Not so sure about Tyron. Maybe the second or third ballot for him. He missed a lot of games the last half of his career. Don’t see two Cowboys being part of the same HOF class.
 

Heard this many times from Jerry…when Romo retired, Witten, Ware, Zack Martin and now Tyron Smith. Four HOFers and a future ROH member who never even won a divisional playoff game.

Yeah Jerry…it is a real shame. Who has been in charge of wasting all this talent?
 
KJJ said:
Zack is a first ballot lock. Not so sure about Tyron. Maybe the second or third ballot for him. He missed a lot of games the last half of his career. Don’t see two Cowboys being part of the same HOF class.
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Tyron's accolades are almost identical to Orlando Pace who was a 2nd ballot so I definitely think 2nd or 3rd ballot is realistic.

Zack I'm actually not sure. The hall of fame literally HATES interior lineman so first ballot is rare. Alan Faneca who got in a few years ago has almost the exact same accolades as Martin but 1. Won a superbowl and 2. Played for a franchise that Canton is very generous too (Steelers) and he was still a 6th ballot hall of famer. No that's not a typo, 6th ballot ! o_O Randal McDaniel (Guard) they have listed as a 12x pro bowler and 9x first team all pro and they still refused to make him first ballot. Hell, last year Yanda who was a unanimous all decade team selection (which is the same voting committee that votes for Canton) they choose to not pick him and pick only 3 modern finalists when they are allowed a 4th no questions asked.

That's why I don't think Martin gets first ballot; they are intentionally not allowing it.

Offense and defense combined there's only been 3 interior lineman enshrined first ballot in the last 30 years. Arguably the hardest of the main positions to get in for some odd reason. I know DT, Guard, and Center aren't sexy positions but show some respect !
 
Tussinman said:
Alan Faneca who got in a few years ago has almost the exact same accolades as Martin but 1. Won a superbowl and 2. Played for a franchise that Canton is very generous too (Steelers) and he was still a 6th ballot hall of famer. No that's not a typo, 6th ballot !
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That would kinda invalidate that "generous to the Steelers" theory, wouldn't it?
 
Tussinman said:
Zack I'm actually not sure. The hall of fame literally HATES interior lineman so first ballot is rare.
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There’s absolutely NO DOUBT that Zack Martin will get in on the first ballot and you can BOOK IT! In his 11 seasons he was named All-Pro 7 times. He’s one of the all time greats at his position.
 
Tussinman said:
Tyron's accolades are almost identical to Orlando Pace who was a 2nd ballot so I definitely think 2nd or 3rd ballot is realistic.

Zack I'm actually not sure. The hall of fame literally HATES interior lineman so first ballot is rare. Alan Faneca who got in a few years ago has almost the exact same accolades as Martin but 1. Won a superbowl and 2. Played for a franchise that Canton is very generous too (Steelers) and he was still a 6th ballot hall of famer. No that's not a typo, 6th ballot ! o_O Randal McDaniel (Guard) they have listed as a 12x pro bowler and 9x first team all pro and they still refused to make him first ballot. Hell, last year Yanda who was a unanimous all decade team selection (which is the same voting committee that votes for Canton) they choose to not pick him and pick only 3 modern finalists when they are allowed a 4th no questions asked.

That's why I don't think Martin gets first ballot; they are intentionally not allowing it.

Offense and defense combined there's only been 3 interior lineman enshrined first ballot in the last 30 years. Arguably the hardest of the main positions to get in for some odd reason. I know DT, Guard, and Center aren't sexy positions but show some respect !
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Very true about interior OL
Which is why I kind of expect Zach to have to wait a couple of years
Really ticks me off to see marginal types at the fancier positions get in when great ones like McDaniel and Yanda have to wait
Someone who was ALL PRO from his rookie year and was on an all decade team deserves to get in first shot but this is why I hate the fact that sports writers are the voters
Should be voted on by current HOF players.
 
KJJ said:
There’s absolutely NO DOUBT that Zack Martin will get in on the first ballot and you can BOOK IT! In his 11 seasons he was named All-Pro 7 times. He’s one of the all time greats at his position.
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I agree but that's not how Canton works. There is no logic or reason behind it, it literally doesn't matter if someone is an all-time great at their position if they don't like the position you play.

The last guard to make the hall of fame was a 6x First team all pro with a Superbowl ring and he still waited 6 years to get in.
 
Tussinman said:
I agree but that's not how Canton works. There is no logic or reason behind it, it literally doesn't matter if someone is an all-time great at their position if they don't like the position you play.

The last guard to make the hall of fame was a 6x First team all pro with a Superbowl ring and he still waited 6 years to get in.
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I disagree there’s positions the HOF doesn’t like. That’s nonsense. There’s certain positions that are tougher to get in the HOF than others. It doesn’t get any better at guard than Zack Martin. He made 9 Pro Bowls and 9 times an All Pro with 7 first team All Pros. He’s a first ballot LOCK!
 
Also Smith is going to the HOF. The biggest thing in Smith's favor is that he was pretty much the captain of the best offensive group in the NFL in the 2010s. He also has the Cowboys big market promotion as well.
 
I've always wondered if these one-day contracts have a dollar amount attached. Would the CBA even allow a player to sign a contract for zero dollars? And is there any sort of special provision to exempt such a contract from the salary cap if so?

Anyhow - best wishes for Tyron. He always played hard and gave it his all when on the field and I can't recall him ever stirring up any trouble off the field. I think he will easily make the HOF, first-ballot.
 
Tyron has served he Cowboys extremely well during his time on the team. It's unfortunate that his health became an issue for him in his last years, but despite that, his career has been a great one. If this team ever gets another LT to compare with him, it would be divinely blessed.
 
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KJJ said:
Zack is a first ballot lock. Not so sure about Tyron. Maybe the second or third ballot for him. He missed a lot of games the last half of his career. Don’t see two Cowboys being part of the same HOF class.
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Tyron put in more high level seasons at T than Zack did at G. Tyron should get in first. Not saying that will happen but it better reflects the level of play.
 
McKDaddy said:
Tyron put in more high level seasons at T than Zack did at G. Tyron should get in first. Not saying that will happen but it better reflects the level of play.
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You’re wrong. No one on our OL played at a higher level and was more consistent than Zack who many felt was the best player on the team during his prime.
 
KJJ said:
You’re wrong. No one on our OL played at a higher level and was more consistent than Zack who many felt was the best player on the team during his prime.
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In what way am I wrong?
Tyron played 14 years, Zack 11, right?
Even given some injury issues, Tyron played in 13 games or more 9 seasons. Same as Zack.
Zack's elite play was 6 maybe 7 years. Tyron's elite play was 8 to 10 years.
When they were both in their prime, was it a toss up who was the better player? Maybe. But Tyron played a much harder position.
Given the choice between an elite LT & an elite RG, every team would choose the LT.
The guy who did it longer at a harder position should get in first.
 
KJJ said:
He made 9 Pro Bowls and 9 times an All Pro with 7 first team All Pros. He’s a first ballot LOCK!
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I think he should be but I'm trying to tell you Canton historically doesn't think that way and the only thing that matters is their votes not what you or I think. The last Guard they enshrined was 9x pro bowl 8x all pro with 6 first teams (so almost identical to Martin) plus had a Superbowl ring and he was still 6th ballot.......
 
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