"Martyball" and the passage of time

Xizor said:
It won't be Martyball. He just believes more in running the ball more than Mccarthy which is exactly what this offense needs. More balance.
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Just having a HC who is committed to running the ball more is a big improvement.

We all know what happens when Dak has 30-40 or more passing attempts a game.
 
SlammedZero said:
If people hated that Big Mac always ran on 1st down, they're going to really hate Marty Ball. lol
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My problem was Big Mike calling passes down field on 3rd and 1 when you're not in field position to go for it on 4th and 1.

2nd and 1 is the spot to do that- and if its INC, you come back and run on 3rd.
 
Verdict said:
Marty built winning teams. He was just notorious for playing far too conservatively in the playoffs. It’s like his whole game plan was different for the playoffs.
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Nah. It's just harder to overcome talent shortcomings consistently in the playoffs.

If the idiot DB in SD would have played more "conservatively" when he made the interception, Brady and the Pats would have at least one less Superbowl, and Marty may have multiple SB wins.
 
BoyzBlaster said:
I noticed a lot of my fellow Zoners gleefully talking about how many of our problems will be solved because we have "Martyball" now. As someone who was around during "Martyball"it's interesting because back then Marty came to be known as basically a simpleton who was famous for soul crushing losses and who couldn't get over the top, e.g., he's the only coach in NFL history with 200 wins but a losing playoff record (and his playoff record STUNK). He was also on the losing end of iconic playoff losses, e.g., "The Drive", "The Fumble."
I'm curious what it is about Martyball that has people excited? Let me know Zoners.
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The Eagles won the Super Bowl based on running the ball and playing good defense.

Dak has a very good winning percentage when the Cowboys run for over 130 yards.
- Even better when they also hold the opponent to less than 130.

Generally, if you don't have a Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady type of elite QB, then running the ball is usually a big part of making it to the Super Bowl.
 
Martyball is a offensive system

Marty believed in running the ball and limiting passes to about 25 per game

Of course sometimes qbs threw more but the system is based off this belief

If there's 65 plays in a game 40 of them should be runs, and the other 25 are passes and the passes need to be efficient and of those 25 passes half need to be off play action selling the run

Under this system I don't want to see Dak throw it 40 times, I want the ball taken out of his hands. ..I only need him to go 16/25 for 180 yards 1 or 2 tds and no turnovers with the running game getting 40 carries for 220 plus in a martyball system this will get you a 30-21 win
 
AZPaul3 said:
Recent opinions sometimes do not carry the weight of reality with them. Marty Schottenheimer was a greater NFL coach then anyone in this forum. He did the job and he did it very well. He may have failed to achieve the ultimate but that does not negate the winning history and the winning spirit he fostered in KC for more than a decade. He kept these guys in the national spotlight every season. He racked up the highest winning % of all Chief’s coaches until Santa Clause came to town.

Don’t disparage his legacy. He may not have been Belichick but he was damn good.

Does this translate thru the bloodline? Is it nature or nurture? Will we inherit the disciplinarian with a penchant for smashmouth ram it in their face football or something other. The major issue is that, whatever Brian is, he is under Jerry’s thumb which does not bode well for any HC.
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The problem was, he always had good players at almost every position. Just few great ones. He had some nice teams though. Good enough that I remember.
 
INCowboysFan said:
The period between stram and Schottenheimer (1975-1988) the chiefs had a winning record twice and made the playoffs once, losing in the WC game. So yeah they pretty much were non existent for a long time before Marty showed up
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He did bring them to their first AFC championship appearance. But prior to him, they did win two AFL championships, and an AFL VS NFL game prior to the league's merging.
 
Kevinicus said:
Nah. It's just harder to overcome talent shortcomings consistently in the playoffs.

If the idiot DB in SD would have played more "conservatively" when he made the interception, Brady and the Pats would have at least one less Superbowl, and Marty may have multiple SB wins.
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That was the worst way to get knocked out of the playoffs I've ever seen. Take a knee and the game is over. But the Patriots didn't win the SB that year.
 
BoyzBlaster said:
I noticed a lot of my fellow Zoners gleefully talking about how many of our problems will be solved because we have "Martyball" now. As someone who was around during "Martyball"it's interesting because back then Marty came to be known as basically a simpleton who was famous for soul crushing losses and who couldn't get over the top, e.g., he's the only coach in NFL history with 200 wins but a losing playoff record (and his playoff record STUNK). He was also on the losing end of iconic playoff losses, e.g., "The Drive", "The Fumble."
I'm curious what it is about Martyball that has people excited? Let me know Zoners.
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Have you seen Jason Garrett ball? Same Ole shhhh
 
Flamma said:
That was the worst way to get knocked out of the playoffs I've ever seen. Take a knee and the game is over. But the Patriots didn't win the SB that year.
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My bad on the year.

Apparently my bad on the situation as well. I guess nearly half the 4th quarter was left to play, so it makes more sense that he didn't go down. NE still had time.

Both QBs were awful in that game.
 
Kevinicus said:
My bad on the year.

Apparently my bad on the situation as well. I guess nearly half the 4th quarter was left to play, so it makes more sense that he didn't go down. NE still had time.

Both QBs were awful in that game.
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I thought the same thing. I thought it was a game ending interception. Apparently not.
 
No one here knows how BS will be as a HC cause he's never been one. Will it be Brian's offense, the coordinators offense, some of each,? If Brian is doing it all why have an oc, so I'm guessing Brian has a day but it's the OC's offense l within the plan they come up with. But we'll find out.
 
Imagine thinking so highly of something a bum like Doug Pederson accomplished

On what planet is Marty not a better coach than Doug Pederson or the guy who just won the Super Bowl with Philadelphia?
 
Rayman70 said:
We are a bunch of carnies . We need this to stop. Talent has been overrated here for a while. But the biggest issue is the excessive access to the team by outside forces during the season,post season. It lends itself to being ill prepared and focused. That's coaching. The hc can control this if he has the will to. MM was just happy to be here. A gutless wonder. Let's hope Marty's son can do the job needed.
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25 years of coaching and he finally gets a chance to be head coach. Schottenheimer is just happy to be here.
 
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