TRADED Cowboys trade for George Pickens and 2027 6th for 2026 3rd and 2027 5th

[darthseinfeld]

against lesser offenses. against good offenses that defense struggled badly and each year got exposed in the playoffs, which is usually better teams.

Same thing with the offense. When we played real games, we got shut down

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I think Jerry knows the fans have had it. He needs to let us eat some cake.

Yeah, but, to me, it sort of comes off as him saying screw you to us from when we wanted a real coach.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well Mike sucked so I can’t say it’s not some of his doing. It I had to add some twisted way of thinking to it….he wanted Mike to make him keep him by winning with crap. And Mike did good of getting the most out of crap but he was never going to win with that team. He gave him Zeke for some odd reason.

Maybe, but Jerry did a lot more for Garrett than he did McCarthy

 

[baltcowboy]

so what....without a good defense, we are not going far into the playoffs and same arguments will continue that dak sucks, and blah blah blah.

I would have rather traded a 3rd for a defensive player.

but I understand Jerry's view. Offense sells Jerseys and that's all that matters to him

One of the best pass rushes in the league that now has an offense that will pressure teams to score with us. The offense not being able to score or move the ball killed the defense last season. We our better on both sides of the ball now.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Oh thats right we need to have a probowl player in every position on who we have in garbage. Thats not how it works.

So who was available for a 3rd at slot CB, DT that would have gotten us to a superbowl.

It's always fun hearing you cry babies that have no solutions.

so you would say the WR2 was a bigger need than DT? or LB? or Saftey?

and we lost Lewis. a slot CB, which now is like a starting CB for teams since so many run a 3 WR set.

and you all just fall for whatever jerry sells, "you are all in"...

and everyone is assuming this is going to work out, celebrating, because we have nothing else to celebrate...given 30 years of this same thing. Jerry loves offense. because offense sells.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

His qb play and team were so great right? Watch his tape, stop talking n see the man on the field lol

ok, so are you in Dak's corner, saying Dak is one of the top QBs in the league?

let him actually prove he is worthy before annointing him with the annointing oil of greatness!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

One of the best pass rushes in the league that now has an offense that will pressure teams to score with us. The offense not being able to score or move the ball killed the defense last season. We our better on both sides of the ball now.

in 23 they were top scoring team in the league. how did that turn out?

every team is better on both sides of the ball now. until the season starts.

 

[dstew60105]

two good TEs don't equal a better TE..

and Steele was injured in 2022...last year he wasn't injured. he just plain sucked. he has sucked for two year now.

and if you don't think we need safties, then you haven't watched the cowboys. its scary bad

It was late 2022(December). He was rushed back in 2023, 2024 was his full season where he should have been fully recovered. After struggling to start the season, his last 8-9 games were very good. New OL coach should help as well. And no, safeties are not a major need right now. WR2 was a major need. Ferguson is a very good TE who played most of last year with a backup QB's and battled injuries. Again, not a huge need area.

 

[Sonny Koufax]

Shotty changing the culture with “high character” guys already.

Shotty was hired specifically to not be in control of anything, just as I’ve been saying all along.

This trade proves it.

Worst post I’ve read in years

 

[JohnsKey19]

Dak will have to throw 40 times a game to keep 2 diva WRs happy. So much for having a running game.

In 2021 - CD and Amari split 170 receptions. Zeke and Pollard finished with 1700 yards rushing combined. While rushing totals aren’t great, that’s still a respectable total from your top 2 rushers. So to address your concern, it’s possible…

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Same thing with the offense. When we played real games, we got shut down

not as bad as this defense. the defense was average in rush defense for years. middle of the pack or bottom 10. SF ate our lunch at home rushing the ball. same the year after and GB just shoved it down our throat...

 

[darthseinfeld]

so you would say the WR2 was a bigger need than DT? or LB? or Saftey?

and we lost Lewis. a slot CB, which now is like a starting CB for teams since so many run a 3 WR set.

and you all just fall for whatever jerry sells, "you are all in"...

and everyone is assuming this is going to work out, celebrating, because we have nothing else to celebrate...given 30 years of this same thing. Jerry loves offense. because offense sells.

Do you realize that in the last 4 drafts we have drafted 1 skill player in the top 90? Jalen Tolbert in the late 3rd. In that time we have spent 4 top 90 picks on DE's. 3 on CB's. 2 on DT's. 2 on LB's. As a result, our talent level at the skills positions is among the leagues worst. If you dont acknowledge that, you cant be taken seriously

 

[KB1122]

There's no telling how good we'll be after Dak inevitably goes down for the season in game 6.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It was late 2022(December). He was rushed back in 2023, 2024 was his full season where he should have been fully recovered. After struggling to start the season, his last 8-9 games were very good. New OL coach should help as well. And no, safeties are not a major need right now. WR2 was a major need. Ferguson is a very good TE who played most of last year with a backup QB's and battled injuries. Again, not a huge need area.

last 8 or 9 games we played bottom feeding offenses 4 times....giants, carolina, cinci, tampa was average defense and the last two games were meaningless games for the opposing teams.

and even his improvement had him at average at best, better than the crap he was earlier in the year when we played tough opponents and he was abused, so you saw improvement over the season. perhaps true. but his play still sucked for a highly paid RT.

DT, LB, Saftey were bigger major needs than WR2

 

[Chuck 54]

What this proves is Mingo ain't much. I doubt he makes the team. Maybe traded for a conditional 5th.

I’ll bet Mingo and Pickens are number 2&3 receivers. Mingo was open a lot last year, but Rush couldn’t get the ball to him. Both are good blockers in the run game.

 

[superonyx]

so you would say the WR2 was a bigger need than DT? or LB? or Saftey?

and we lost Lewis. a slot CB, which now is like a starting CB for teams since so many run a 3 WR set.

and you all just fall for whatever jerry sells, "you are all in"...

and everyone is assuming this is going to work out, celebrating, because we have nothing else to celebrate...given 30 years of this same thing. Jerry loves offense. because offense sells.

Not sure it even matter if its DT,LB and Safety vs WR2 since who is this DT in this made up scenario. What are we paying him? Who is trading him away?
On this team with the roster we currently have I do believe a WR2 is more impactful to our teams success than a DT. The players we have at DT are a higher caliber than the players we had after CD at WR. You can scheme and rotate to hide not having an amazing DT. You can't do this for a WR2. He is on an island starting every game and playing the majority of snaps. If we only have CD teams can scheme to take him away and then we have real trouble.

So given our roster Pickens will have a bigger impact on the team than bringing in another LB, DT or Safety.

Do you remember the season before last the Eagles went through several DC's during the season? Their defense was truly garbage. No one could fix it... Well in comes Vic Fangio and last year they were number 1 in the league on defense with primarily the same group of players.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This guy is so mad we didn't trade away multiple picks to move up and draft his favorite player and he will be here all year to complain about it in any way he can. It's sad actually.

would you rather have a Jones type player anchoring the middle of your defense for years to come. or a one year rental WR for a team not in contention for anything.

like I said, you like flash. now go help jerry and buy a pickens jersey. make jerry happy

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I’ll bet Mingo and Pickens are number 2&3 receivers. Mingo was open a lot last year, but Rush couldn’t get the ball to him. Both are good blockers in the run game.

mingo has sucked for a while now. people will point to carolina QBs being bad, but he was 6th on his team in catches...how come these other guys got it bue he couldn't. and other players on the cowboys produced with Rush...

Mingo sucks. another bad jones trade, like lance. throwing away 4th round picks.

 

[rambo2]

Damn! We’ve thrown those picks away and he’s going to want $30mm next year. Damn.

Lol. What picks did they throw away? They get a comp pick back if he signs elsewhere.

 

[baltcowboy]

in 23 they were top scoring team in the league. how did that turn out?

every team is better on both sides of the ball now. until the season starts.

12-5 but in the playoffs the offense couldn’t run the football or get off of press conference. The receiver core just changed overnight. Now everyone is in their correct spot.