Size comparison - Jayden Blue vs. historic RBs

[blueblood70]

He was behind Jonathan brooks and CJ Baxter 2 years ago and behind Baxter this year. Baxter was injured in camp and missed the year and split carries with wisner. Was behind bijan and roschon freshman year.

Freshman year

and They are missing the other guy it was funny right the guy named red another guy named blue but yeah at one point there was also a guy named red on the team that was pretty solid I mean it was a crazy deep running back room while he was there he got pushed to the side but every time he came in what did he do make something happen every time this offense struggled last year and they needed something to get a spark going guess who it was it was Jayden blue whether it was out of the backfield between the tackles to the edges or in the past game the man made things happen....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Winser - 1131 yards
Blue - 760 yards
Gibson - 287 yards

Split time. But there are reasons that 1 RB does not rule them all. He's extremely fast. But his speed didn't translate into becoming the 1 RB that ruled them all for Texas. Guys like Emmitt, Dorsett, Saquan, OJ... typically walk on with pedigress. There must be a reason Blue does not. Why?

Just saying, to expect 1 RB to rule them all for the Cowboys seems to be an unrealistic expectation for Blue. Nothing wrong with run by committee.

NC Ohio State also ran by committee. I think they mostly do over the years with obscene talent at RB (and WR of course).
Judkins 1060 and Henderson 1016.

It's hard to get that kind of talent in the NFL...but it's proof it CAN be done.

 

[blueblood70]

NC Ohio State also ran by committee. I think they mostly do over the years with obscene talent at RB (and WR of course).
Judkins 1060 and Henderson 1016.

It's hard to get that kind of talent in the NFL...but it's proof it CAN be done.

Yes they did but it was beyond that sarkesians spread offense he likes to spread the ball around to a lot of different players that is why you're not going to see a receiver with 1800 yards because they literally do plug and play with a lot of players from one year to the next when he's attracting new recruits to his team he's trying to put them in the same mold and they literally spread the ball around everybody we've just two guys sharing the ball there was like 5 I mean you see that picture of all those running backs that they'd left out Red..

So I failed to see the difference i'm not sure why you would show us Ohio State comp when we run a different offense yeah they may have shared the ball on as a running back but they didn't have five running backs they didn't have a bunch of play calls that involved a whole lot of players they did not just pick a primary target and just go after that target all day all day all day no they literally winning the games spreading the ball around that was their philosophy they wanted to throw the entire defense off balance and not know where the ball was going from one play to the other..

that is why you had guys like a Xavier Worthy leave and then a guy like Matthew Golden and Isaiah Bond they all look the same and they were just from play to play in game to game just make sure they spread the ball around to those guys they were all from a familiar build I watched all their games i'm a Longhorn fan i'm not saying there's greatness coming from Jayden Blue but he's being undervalued and underrated the man is the exact same size height weight very similar grades in the combine as Jamir Gibbs so let's not overrate the guy but let's not undervalue and underrate the guy either if he could get past a fumbling problems he's going to be a great addition to a running back by committee and a guy that can contribute if he's given the ball say 40% of the time and not wore out between the tackles he is not that guy but we don't need that guy he is Tony Pollard in my opinion that could be his floor..

I have no high expectations that he's going to become a three down back or a primary here but he's going to offer a lot to this team if he's used properly....

 

[RodeoJake]

Little guys like to say that size doesn't matter...not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean! Lol

As we under 6' countryboys like to say, it ain't the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.

 

[blueblood70]

By the way to all those that keep harping on the fact that he may not be a three down back in this league OK so let's discuss some dynamic players that were a lot like Tony Pollard and this is where I'm putting Jayden Blues floor at but let's just go outside the DC,

let's go Adjust your memories and I'm betting you thought Reggie Bush and Alvin Kamara were some big time running backs in this league and I'm betting you thought their stats were probably going to be bigger than what I'm going to give you now Alvin Kamara in my opinion the Saints started ruining him like the Cowboys and Titans have ruined Tony Pollard they're still productive running backs but they're not putting up gaudy numbers..

Alvin Kamara is averaging about 750 yards per year and his yearly where I should say his career yards per carry, yards per rush however you want to put it is 4.4..

When the New Orleans states started thinking of him as uh we paid him so now we need to run the wheels off him he was not nearly as effective.

He doesn't have a single thousand yard season. And he was the most effective when I remembered his big dude in a Mark Ingram running to football and him coming in and doing his thing that's what we need here we need a guy like Ingram is that mafa is that Williams I don't know we but we don't need a 1600 yard running back and Jaden blue can do the same things if he's coming in for forty percent of the snaps and not a hundred percent if he's used properly..

Here's a great one everyone remember Reggie Bush this dynamic super fast special teams ace and running back right should have been used a lot like Jayden Blue should be used a lot like Tony Pollard but what they do they started running the wheels off him and anytime he had over 200 carries he started becoming less effective now he did have two one thousand yard seasons.

But for an 11 year career he averaged about 500 yards per year and 4.3 yards per carry and in eleven years ,. He only had thirty six touchdowns. Are we talking about a Heisman winning Dynamo everyone thought him as all the speed moves you can get but we want to talk about Jayden Blue being buried on his team in college that he has all these aspects that he's built like Jamir Gibbs and by the way almost the same size as Reggie Bush...

So why is it hard to take the leap and see that if he can get his fumbles under control if they can utilize him properly in this offense he can be one of these guys we're talking about Pollard Bush Kamara look at their stats these guys are not Ezekiel Elliott they are not Saquan Barkley or Henry they are not even a Josh Jacobs these are not three down power back backs these are guys that are going to be complimentary backs and if used properly great weapons for your team....

I'm just tired of the insanity you all are treating this guy like he's deuce he is not deuce he is built like Jamyr Gibbs got the same speed.. So yes he can end up if things workout right being Tony Pollard or even a Reggie Bush type or even a Kamara type he doesn't need to live up to Gibbs but is Gibbs not at a full advantage of the offense he's on to play calling the offensive line I mean people over rate that the man is in a great offense if they can build something like that up front blue can be pretty good in this run game can be pretty good..

 

[blueblood70]

As we under 6' countryboys like to say, it ain't the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.

That's the thing most average running backs are under six foot, and they are under 220 it literally the league average for starting backs are not these big huge dynamic backs those start pushing into full back range....

I mean look at Barry Sanders and Emmett Smith look at Jamyr Gibbs right now the same size as Jaydon Blue, same thing what we've seen from Alvin Kamara and Reggie Bush,

i'm looking at all these guys because I remember this is what we hope that we can get out of Jaydon Blue, at the very least Tony Pollard...

 

[blueblood70]

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Reggie bush the great dynamo of a Blue type back. 4.3 YPC for his career under 500 yards a year and under 4 Tds per year..hmm

I'm betting people didn't even consider he wasn't as dynamic as people remembered but that's something we should expect from blue we don't need him to be a hero we don't need him to be a 3 down back we don't need him to get 1600 yards like Ezekiel Elliott we don't need him to block like Ezekiel Elliott or run like Saquan Barkley we just need demand to have a specific role to help this team and be a weapon out of the backfield..

That's what the coaching staff's job is... I just want the man to be a version of Tony Pollard that would be great to start....

 

[Ranching]

As we under 6' countryboys like to say, it ain't the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.

Yeah....what else can you say! Lol

 

[blueblood70]

Yeah....what else can you say! Lol

I mean it is true , Vaughn and Turpin or some of the smallest guys in the NFL and yet they don't really miss games because of injury.

if you look at the 5000 scrimmage yards in college it was pretty impressive by Vaughn, I don't think he's got a fair shake and by no means can he be an effective every down runner but I think if Turpin wasn't on this team, which is the ironic thing ,that he's keeping DV off the field, because he they do too many of the same things and Turp does it better... I mean Turpin is one tough SOB.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If Blue matches what Pollard gave us that’s a W.

 

[RodeoJake]

Yeah....what else can you say! Lol

We can say a lot, but our mamas washed a lot of that out with soap.

 

[DFWJC]

Ever fits the narrative that people want to use for an argument I learned how to hear how TET was so slow and that's why he might drop in the draft but then after the pro day all of a sudden he improved his 40 time and everybody was OK with it..

so who is being hypocritical here??

it depends on the perspective we do know he's fast enough but he claims he had a groin issue he could have not ran but I'm betting he's closer to his pro day time I mean why is that hard to believe if the man can run even if he claims he was slightly dinged up and can run a 4.38 with a strained or bad groin you don't think he could have improved on that healthy?

But why does that matter?

Like you said he's fast he's going to be a difference maker if they can get the ball to him in the proper play calls he's not going to be a full time starter he's going to be more like Tony Pollard early in his career behind Zeke they just need to find Zeke like maybe not 2016 through 2019 Zeke but anybody who can put up say Rico type numbers someone who can grind out 1000 yards and be thunder and you can bring in lightning and we got to find the right mix..

But Jamir Gibbs that is the potential that Jayden Blue has you can't look at their combine numbers they're almost exact across the board their prospect grades everything 40 time height weight speed all of it it's almost identical and one went in the first round and one went in the 5th round and everyone's arguing over how Jayden blew can't do this and can't do that why, why can't he why can't he be one of those surprise players that starts out slow and that turns into a possible starter here?

We can't talk about his size his height his weight or his speed because he has all of it.

he's pretty close to a similar size as Emmitt Smith,

so that's out the window, this is not Vaugn, but this is also not ESmith this isn't AJ, we know the guys got limitations right now ,but who knows he could grow into the role.

TONY POLLARD did......

I’m glad we got Blue but Gibbs seems much more talented of a runner than he is.
Still, where we drafted Blue seems like good value with greater upside than risk.

Good pick! Im excited about getting him

My comments about Pro Day 40 times always being exaggerated was just factual statement in general for all players….not a diss on Blue

 

[Rockport]

When the RB’s ahead of him went down with injury last year and Texas put Blue in I kept saying, “where’s this cat been?” He looked better than those in front of him.

 

[blueblood70]

I’m glad we got Blue but Gibbs seems much more talented of a runner than he is.
Still, where we drafted Blue seems like good value with greater upside than risk.

Good pick! Im excited about getting him

My comments about Pro Day 40 times always being exaggerated was just factual statement in general for all players….not a diss on Blue

"seems" LOL How about we put blue behind that offensive line and see what happens with all those weapons you'd literally have to pick your poison with offenses like that Barkley was really good with the Giants he was generational with Philly why why do you think that is I can tell you but you should know the answer it's called an offensive line in a group that draws eyes away from areas you can't focus on one player...

Be careful what your eyes tell you when you're on a team like that maybe Jamir Gibbs on another team with a bad offensive line looks like an average player but you put them behind that line with that group of players and that's what you're seeing that that's a problem people around here don't realize that the team game but that offensive line is important to have for any runner but you could take a good runner like Jayden Blue you put them behind an offensive line that can open holes that quick you have a guy that can take it to the house you're damn right it can elevate the player as well if you have an offensive line...

Look I understand why people would think that a backup coming from college that didn't have gaudy numbers doesn't look the part but that's okay because he's a 5th round pick you're dismissing the guy I'm telling you in any other draft, i'm betting he could have went in the 3rd round, it was a really deep draft he had a small sample size in college much like Tony Pollard and much like Tony Pollard I believe he's going to do those type of things in the NFL..

Over the next three seasons we'll find out who was right who was wrong who was maybe somewhere in between but I see a better player than people have given him credit for he's not a 5th round pick that's going to end up casting out of this league early if this coaching staff puts together the proper line the proper scheme and brings him in on 30 to 40 percent of the snaps it runs him like a normal running back but not wearing him out between the tackles but not give thee defense a tip when you bring him in they're only running to the outside they're only passing no run this guy like a regular running back he's a lot like Reggie Bush and Alvin Kamara and Tony Pollard they need to be used as change of pace backs not wore out between the tackles that doesn't make them gadget players..

And yes I mentioned those two because believe it or not there are a lot of like they did not have as dynamic careers that you would think the more they were counted on the less effective they were but that is in the class that Jaden Blue has the potential to be things just have to come together we're gonna have to have another back doing The Dirty work ,of course ,..

That is the interesting part of training camp we have we're looking for who might win the starting defensive tackle job the rotation but the running backs it's on the our minds and it will be very interesting to watch..

I can't wait....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yes they did but it was beyond that sarkesians spread offense he likes to spread the ball around to a lot of different players that is why you're not going to see a receiver with 1800 yards because they literally do plug and play with a lot of players from one year to the next when he's attracting new recruits to his team he's trying to put them in the same mold and they literally spread the ball around everybody we've just two guys sharing the ball there was like 5 I mean you see that picture of all those running backs that they'd left out Red..

So I failed to see the difference i'm not sure why you would show us Ohio State comp when we run a different offense yeah they may have shared the ball on as a running back but they didn't have five running backs they didn't have a bunch of play calls that involved a whole lot of players they did not just pick a primary target and just go after that target all day all day all day no they literally winning the games spreading the ball around that was their philosophy they wanted to throw the entire defense off balance and not know where the ball was going from one play to the other..

that is why you had guys like a Xavier Worthy leave and then a guy like Matthew Golden and Isaiah Bond they all look the same and they were just from play to play in game to game just make sure they spread the ball around to those guys they were all from a familiar build I watched all their games i'm a Longhorn fan i'm not saying there's greatness coming from Jayden Blue but he's being undervalued and underrated the man is the exact same size height weight very similar grades in the combine as Jamir Gibbs so let's not overrate the guy but let's not undervalue and underrate the guy either if he could get past a fumbling problems he's going to be a great addition to a running back by committee and a guy that can contribute if he's given the ball say 40% of the time and not wore out between the tackles he is not that guy but we don't need that guy he is Tony Pollard in my opinion that could be his floor..

I have no high expectations that he's going to become a three down back or a primary here but he's going to offer a lot to this team if he's used properly....

I said it because...regardless of whatever offense you want to trot out...not mincing words here...you don't necessary HAVE to have a pure bell cow RB1. That's it..a pretty simple clear statement.

You CAN if you want...you don't HAVE to if you have the talent. (which by the way does include OL, passing game, coaching, etc)

What's to argue about...I don't get it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

"seems" LOL How about we put blue behind that offensive line and see what happens with all those weapons you'd literally have to pick your poison with offenses like that Barkley was really good with the Giants he was generational with Philly why why do you think that is I can tell you but you should know the answer it's called an offensive line in a group that draws eyes away from areas you can't focus on one player...

Be careful what your eyes tell you when you're on a team like that maybe Jamir Gibbs on another team with a bad offensive line looks like an average player but you put them behind that line with that group of players and that's what you're seeing that that's a problem people around here don't realize that the team game but that offensive line is important to have for any runner but you could take a good runner like Jayden Blue you put them behind an offensive line that can open holes that quick you have a guy that can take it to the house you're damn right it can elevate the player as well if you have an offensive line...

Look I understand why people would think that a backup coming from college that didn't have gaudy numbers doesn't look the part but that's okay because he's a 5th round pick you're dismissing the guy I'm telling you in any other draft, i'm betting he could have went in the 3rd round, it was a really deep draft he had a small sample size in college much like Tony Pollard and much like Tony Pollard I believe he's going to do those type of things in the NFL..

Over the next three seasons we'll find out who was right who was wrong who was maybe somewhere in between but I see a better player than people have given him credit for he's not a 5th round pick that's going to end up casting out of this league early if this coaching staff puts together the proper line the proper scheme and brings him in on 30 to 40 percent of the snaps it runs him like a normal running back but not wearing him out between the tackles but not give thee defense a tip when you bring him in they're only running to the outside they're only passing no run this guy like a regular running back he's a lot like Reggie Bush and Alvin Kamara and Tony Pollard they need to be used as change of pace backs not wore out between the tackles that doesn't make them gadget players..

And yes I mentioned those two because believe it or not there are a lot of like they did not have as dynamic careers that you would think the more they were counted on the less effective they were but that is in the class that Jaden Blue has the potential to be things just have to come together we're gonna have to have another back doing The Dirty work ,of course ,..

That is the interesting part of training camp we have we're looking for who might win the starting defensive tackle job the rotation but the running backs it's on the our minds and it will be very interesting to watch..

I can't wait....

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