It is time to move Dak under center!

[5Stars]

He’s going to have the best season of his career

There is no way you can know that, you are just hoping he does. If you are so sure, why didn't you say that for the last nine years?

 

[blueblood70]

Don't act like this was the 50s. Most teams, if not all teams ran many plays out of the shotgun in the early 90s. The Cowboys were the only team that ran every play from under center. I don't know of any other team that did that.

Even today, if you have a good OL, and run a 21 personnel offense, the D has to account for it. You can't just sit back in Tampa 2.

I'll double up I don't want to hear about things that happened in the 90s I don't want to hear about things that happened ten years ago I definitely don't want to hear about the 30 year drought let's just stick to the last two or three years because things go in trends just like the value of the running back all of a sudden went and jumped up the last couple of seasons where it was way down....

talk about the New York Giants putting all their money in the Daniel Jones basket and let Saquan Barkley walk we could talk about that because it just happened that was a really bad move I wonder if they were wondering if they should run under center more or oh that's right they made a mistake..

I'm sure the Cowboys are working on whatever they feel like is necessary they don't need help from the Peanut Gallery that is this place thinks they're all football experts they're all better GM's or better draft experts and now they're better coaches and they're better X and O's like the our coaching staff probably never thought of this I mean it must have been somehow simmering below the surface and they went and read the zone and go Oh my God we should run more under center....lmao

 

[Cowboyny]

Do you have the numbers? Percent UC vs shotgun?

They have to mix it up where it's not obvious that UC mean run play.

It is hard to find, most stats will only give you actual snap counts, not what type of snap did a QB take.

Did post a good article I found about the benefits being under center from the Arizona Cardinals, where our OC came from when he was their OL coach. They wanted Murray to be under center more to disguise what they were doing.

I did do a deep study on the Lions Offensive Scheme during last season as I thought Ben Johnson was going to be in consideration for the Cowboy HC Job. I think this is the offensive scheme the Cowboys want to implement:

-Marry up the run/passing games
-Have a two headed RB system; 1 power back, 1 explosive all-purpose
-Heavy play action passing game that is all set up by their run game

 

[Cowboyny]

You do realize how long it's been since Jared Goff was a RAM I mean come on seriously let's stay in just last year or let's do a two year study but you reaching all the way back to Jared Goff with the Rams who couldn't win his Super Bowl but Matthew Stafford did I don't get why you're trying to cherry pick it look we all agree they need to run it more under center but you just can't be a one trick pony you're going to have to mix it up so let's just move it to 50% how about 52.5% would that make you happy why don't you send a note down to Jerry hopefully he'll pass it on to BS and they'll get it worked out just for you.lol .

I'm just having a little fun with you but apparently a lot of people in here believe they have more ideas and they only want to think about these things but the entire coaching staff for the Dallas Cowboys have no idea the semen existed they haven't been thinking about it or have they but they're not telling anyone because why would you?

Isn't there a threat on does the Dallas Cowboys have an advantage with the new coaching staff and a lot of people said no a lot of people want to deny it but this would be one of them keeping things like this a secret their new ideas the things they might do and no they're not going to do it in preseason and no they're not going to do it in open practices these are things you'll never see or hear about until the game plan start rolling out in the real season starts..

I'm pretty sure this is like pretty common knowledge teams understand and I'm sure they'll try to get it installed if they think it'll work for this offense.....

You saw the article that I posted about Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals and the benefit they saw him playing more under center. This is very relevant cause Adams was their OL Coach and now he is our OC.

I actually did a ton of research on the Lions offensive scheme. They marry their run/pass game very well, this is something that Schott has said he wants to do here.

 

[dupree89]

It is hard to find, most stats will only give you actual snap counts, not what type of snap did a QB take.

Did post a good article I found about the benefits being under center from the Arizona Cardinals, where our OC came from when he was their OL coach. They wanted Murray to be under center more to disguise what they were doing.

I did do a deep study on the Lions Offensive Scheme during last season as I thought Ben Johnson was going to be in consideration for the Cowboy HC Job. I think this is the offensive scheme the Cowboys want to implement:

-Marry up the run/passing games
-Have a two headed RB system; 1 power back, 1 explosive all-purpose
-Heavy play action passing game that is all set up by their run game

cowboyny-- did you check out the link I posted?

 

[Cowboyny]

Dak has played plenty of snaps from under center. However, going all the way back to Tom Landry, the Cowboys have always been more of a shotgun team. Many think it is easier to read a defense when you aren't turning your back to it.

Staubach and Romo played tons in the shotgun. Aikman is the only Cowboy QB I can remember who played more under center, and that wasn't the scheme; it was his preference. He came from Oklahoma where the QB was more of a runner, and then had only a little shotgun experience at UCLA. He was uncomfortable with it.

Most QBs can do both after a year or two in the NFL.

It could very well be Dak preference as well. Just saying there are advantages taking snaps under center over being in shotgun. I think the best way, is to used it strategically based on down and distance.

 

[Cowboyny]

cowboyny-- did you check out the link I posted?

Yes, unfortunately it doesn't tell us where the snap came from, but rather where the play was going. Appreciate the help, I will continue to see if I can find the data. Last year isn't going to give us the right data, either, cause Dak missed most of the season. Perhaps, looking at the other teams will give us some insight.

 

[dupree89]

looks like they operated under center 38% last year- according to that site

 

[blueblood70]

You saw the article that I posted about Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals and the benefit they saw him playing more under center. This is very relevant cause Adams was their OL Coach and now he is our OC.

I actually did a ton of research on the Lions offensive scheme. They marry their run/pass game very well, this is something that Schott has said he wants to do here.

I didn't say I was against it i'm just saying it's not something we need to do is revert to that as like 75% of our offense it needs to be strategically done in games we can't look from game to game like they know what's coming can't get in that kind of pattern...

I don't watch much Arizona games but I don't see Kyler Murray being that short and playing from understand her too much because he would get lost the reason a lot of these players were put in shotgun is make easier reads on the defense because you're looking at the defense from a different viewpoint prescott's plenty tall enough to do it but it doesn't work for every quarterback..

Whatever they do it needs to be successful it needs to be executed proficiently that's all I need to see because the run game needs to improve from game one not from game 8..lol .

The way they did the schedule there's no dipping your toe in the water there's not well we'll be all right in 4 or five weeks we'll get this rolling in the right direction now this needs to get rolling in practice in preseason whatever they're doing behind the closed practices it needs to be worked out on the depth charts who's running what in what situational football and just get it rolling early....

We are all tired of some of the route trees and the play calls and the odd choice of player for situational football you know it it doesn't make sense the last three seasons of some of the things that they ran out there it just needs to be better..

 

[Cowboyny]

Only site I found has been sharp football analysis. However, they stopped as of 2021 season. Here is 2020 to give us another year for reference, I put the rushing ranking:

Cowboys-36% (18)
Browns-57% (3)
Falcons-48% (27)
Rams-58% (10)
Vikings-64% (5)
Patriots-52% (4)
Saints-48% (6)
Titans-59% (2)
Chiefs-17% (16)
Cincy-24% (24)
Bills-28% (20)
Philly-20% (9)

You noticed that majority of the best rushing teams had a high under center %, not all but the majority. Atlanta was the only one that stuck out being a poor running team. You see the high shotgun teams being more the average rushing teams. Eagles were the one who stuck out here, but you have to factor in Hurts.

 

[Cowboyny]

looks like they operated under center 38% last year- according to that site

I didn't see the chart. So 715 Shotgun, 526 Under Center-42% if my math is correct.

 

[dupree89]

I didn't see the chart. So 715 Shotgun, 526 Under Center-42% if my math is correct.

try this link, I'm hoping it brings you to the main search page. 2 columns of drops down menus you can pick n choose. I just picked formation: under center. OFFENSE. COWBOYS. dont pick a specific team and it looks like it gives you all teams. Its actually kinda cool


https://nflsavant.com/search.php

 

[speedkilz88]

Or his hammy. Bank on Dak hardly playing under Center.

Schottenheimer has said that he wants to do a lot play action. Which would mean a lot more playing under center.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Schottenheimer has said that he wants to do a lot play action. Which would mean a lot more playing under center.

I agree. Dak needs to do his part and play under Center much more. Play action would work excellent with the weapons we now have.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

There is no way you can know that, you are just hoping he does. If you are so sure, why didn't you say that for the last nine years?

I think he DID say it for nine years. But people like him conveniently forget when they were wrong. Like Jerry...he just eternally doubles down, and eventually it's possible he might be right and then we'll never hear the end of it. .

I suppose it MIGHT be worth it.

 

[conner01]

Well, it's not so much the hit I'm worried about. It's back peddling and planting the foot over and over again. Keep in mind, this is a guy that just wore an ankle boot on a fishing boat.

But his ankle is well now