CFP thread

that last 55 seconds was wild

and it certainly would make people wonder about the officiating
 
Once OM got the first down in FG range, why not just run it and spike it to stop the clock and not leave any time on the clock.
 
Sydla said:
Ehhh I tend to think UGA had a better shot at Miami or IU. I don’t think Ole Miss has the bodies up front that UGA can run at both teams.
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can they hit the transfer portal & join up?:muttley:
 
CFP final 4 is Indiana, Ole Miss, Oregon, and Miami

If you'd put $500 down on that before season started, you could retire comfortably on your own private Caribbean island :laugh:

I'm excited to watch it.
Was not a proponent of the 12 team playoff but this year changed my mind. Legitimately 3 of the 4 semi-finalists probably wouldn't have even gotten into a 4 team playoff and that would have been a genuine shame

Great theater. Can't wait to see it play out.
 
BoysForLife said:
CFP final 4 is Indiana, Ole Miss, Oregon, and Miami

If you'd put $500 down on that before season started, you could retire comfortably on your own private Caribbean island :laugh:

I'm excited to watch it.
Was not a proponent of the 12 team playoff but this year changed my mind. Legitimately 3 of the 4 semi-finalists probably wouldn't have even gotten into a 4 team playoff and that would have been a genuine shame

Great theater. Can't wait to see it play out.
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I’m fine with any of them winning it all, which makes for very easy viewing
 
Sydla said:
I'll throw out some hot takes.

One, the conference system as we see it is failing. People dog ND and say they are the ones that need to change but in reality, the conferences now are too big, too insular, etc. It results in unbalanced schedules, teams being overvalued/propped up, etc. I don't now h how you fix it in this age of conference and TV revenues, but the reality is that the size of conferences are creating problems that I am not sure how you fix short of tearing apart the existing conference landscape.

Two, it's time people stop rewarding the SEC just because they are the SEC. Now that doesn't mean they aren't a great conference, they are. But they aren't the SEC of 5-7-10 years ago. atlantacowboy bristled when this discussion came up in another thread and his proof for the dominance of the SEC was recruiting classes and the number of 5 stars/high 4 stars that go to SEC schools. And that is true, the SEC still tends to recruit better than most other schools save for some of the bluebloods like OSU, ND, etc. But this isn't the 90s anymore. The landscape of college football has shifted due to the portal. Bama and UGA and the like can't stockpile 5 stars anymore because they can easily move for more money and more opportunity to play. So when Bama signs a 5 star DT this year and then signs another next year, one of those guys may say down the road that they can go to Indiana or TT and play more than they would splitting time at Bama. Plus, in the portal realm, these programs now have the ability to easily pluck some three star kid at a middling program who just developed into a stud. So while Bama might be adding a 5 star CB, Indiana might be adding some former 3 star CB who has developed into a total experienced big time player. The gap between the SEC and the rest of the college football world has shrunk. It just has.

And this gets back to my insular comment above. As teams move away from quality OOC games and focus on conference schedules that are often imbalanced, there is a faux sense of accomplishment beating up other "ranked" teams in one's conference and it just becomes some sort of circular overvalued sense of accomplishment. OU was a nice team. They were not a great team. They got a lot of mileage out of some wins in the SEC that frankly, were nice wins but likely overrated teams. But they are SEC teams so they get a bumb just by that alone. Texas was better than OU. Texas was likely better than Bama. ND was better than Bama. But Bama had the SEC mystique on them and there was no way the committee was going to leave out Bama for the 2nd year in a row despite Bama looking like slop for much of November. The fact they got lucky and drew OU in round 1 doesn't change that fact.

TT deserved to be there. They were the Big 12 champ. But the fact they lost today as they did should not surprise anyone. UO was the first big time program they faced all year. The Big 12 was largely overrated. BYU claims of deserving the playoffs were odd to me. They got smoked TWICE by TT. They were not better than Texas. Or ND. Someone noted on X that the Big 12 had zero quality OOC wins. That's an issue.

I am not sure how to fix all of this but I have some crazy ideas like mandating certain criteria for OOC games so we can see some sort of comparison between conferences. Dump the committees that have clear bias and go back to more a BCS style selection. Kill the early polls.
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I know the thought of somebody stating the obvious........that the SEC has been the most dominant conference for a long time.....makes you bristle. If you can't handle facts (recruiting, NFL draft , and national titles) thats a personal problem.

I am also on record as saying that Bama should not have been in the playoff. ND or BYU should have gone, and Tulane and JMU had no business playing with the big boys.

In my view, the Big 10 has caught the SEC in recent years.

Conferences will continue to evolve. They aren't going anywhere.

Fun fact: all 4 of the head coaches in the final 4 are on the Saban coaching tree.
 
Indiana seems like a team that plays with a chip on their shoulders as it appears that they had players on the team that were not heavily recruited. I like those type of guys. Our high school football coach had a sign in his office that said the will to win will always beat the skill to win. Hates off to all the final 4 teams.GA, Bama, Ohio St out. Who would have thought that
 
McKDaddy said:
ok, but stopping the clock for them with throw aways accomplishes what?
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I agree with you there

Just saying they wouldn't have been able to bleed the clock down to 2 or 3 seconds was my point

But I would agree with you they should have made Georgia burn the timeouts.
 
Sydla said:
I don’t get the joke.

And the reality is the SEC isn’t the conference it was a decade ago. NIL and the portal have balanced things out more.

Bama had no business being in the playoffs given their last 5-6 games. But the committee protected them for some reason. It’s high time to kill the committee process and go back to the BCS system of ranking teams.
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The joke is that our ND fanboy didn't actually go to ND.

UGA won back to back titles in 2022 and 2023. So, its been far less than a decade. I've never defended Bama being in the playoff. The selection process is flawed as we saw with JMU and Tulane somehow taking spots.

Who do you think ranked the teams in the BCS? It still some combination of people voting. The fact you think thats somehow not going to also favor the SEC is hilarious.
 
Ole Miss knows Georgia well...they beat them last year and played them close earlier this season. But I think Miami is the team to watch out for...they've got the talent to win it all if Beck can get hot. And the championship game is at their stadium so that could help them out in a potential matchup vs. Indiana:omg:
 
atlantacowboy said:
The joke is that our ND fanboy didn't actually go to ND.

UGA won back to back titles in 2022 and 2023. So, its been far less than a decade. I've never defended Bama being in the playoff. The selection process is flawed as we saw with JMU and Tulane somehow taking spots.

Who do you think ranked the teams in the BCS? It still some combination of people voting. The fact you think thats somehow not going to also favor the SEC is hilarious.
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So did you go to Georgia? if not you have no right to root for them, correct?
 
atlantacowboy said:
I'm in better company than you. When was NDs last national title? lol
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NDs last trophy is so old it has probably rotted away by now. They’ve sucked for a few generations at this point.

It’s nice seeing 4 remaining teams this year who don’t have fanbases that are easy to hate.
 
atlantacowboy said:
I know the thought of somebody stating the obvious........that the SEC has been the most dominant conference for a long time.....makes you bristle. If you can't handle facts (recruiting, NFL draft , and national titles) thats a personal problem.

I am also on record as saying that Bama should not have been in the playoff. ND or BYU should have gone, and Tulane and JMU had no business playing with the big boys.

In my view, the Big 10 has caught the SEC in recent years.

Conferences will continue to evolve. They aren't going anywhere.

Fun fact: all 4 of the head coaches in the final 4 are on the Saban coaching tree.
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That’s a strawman. I never said the SEC hadn’t been the most dominant conference for awhile. What I said is that they aren’t anymore and that just assuming they deserve so many more spots like Greg Sankey has argued isn’t based in reality anymore. They should have been a 3 bid league this playoff.
 
atlantacowboy said:
The joke is that our ND fanboy didn't actually go to ND.

UGA won back to back titles in 2022 and 2023. So, its been far less than a decade. I've never defended Bama being in the playoff. The selection process is flawed as we saw with JMU and Tulane somehow taking spots.

Who do you think ranked the teams in the BCS? It still some combination of people voting. The fact you think thats somehow not going to also favor the SEC is hilarious.
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BCS involved way more voters because it included the coaches and AP polls. It also used a computer calculation. It would still have some bias but likely far less than a committee of a dozen people with clear bias.

Why does Hunter Yurachek get to vote for SEC teams to make it when the more teams that make it benefit his Arkansas team in terms of shared playoff revenues?

Mike Riley doesn’t have to recuse himself from voting for Bama despite being a grad but Ivan Maisel has to recuse himself from ND because he wrote a book about Frank Leahy?

LOL. The committee selection process is utterly broken. Blow it up. If it must remain dump everyone who has conference or team ties. Get a panel of FCS athletic directors or something like that. Shoot, get some data crunchers who provide data for Vegas lines. They would make more sense than guys like Hunter Yurachek.
 
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