Dak Prescott deserves more respect

[Captain-Crash]

Lol lol lol right

C.J. Stroud has won three playoff games in three years in the league.
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[G2]

No I wasn't. I was saying that his personal statistics benefited from playing against a weak division, with two bottom feeder teams in it, where he won 80% of his games. When playing outside this division he only wins 50% of his games. So obviously, his personal stats wouldn't have been as high if he played in the NFC West or NFC North, against teams the Cowboys don't do as well against and his personal statistics against those teams aren't as good as. Or are you saying that personally statistics don't benefit from wins and aren't negatively impacted by loses? Does not a quarterback, usually, have a better day against a bad team versus a good team? I mean you guys can play dumb all you want, but the rest of us understand the concept of causation.

That's all QBs dude. All QBs play bottom feeders. They all struggle vs. non-division teams. So are we just dismissing factual statistics because a bad team was on the schedule? That's stupid. And once again, you're attributing wins and losses to just one player. Is everything "garbage time?"
I'm not sure Prescott could play much better than he did this past season. With an average O line, running game and the worst defense known to mankind. Besides his WRs, who's playing better?

 

[Diehardblues]

Depends on perception. I've watched several QBs now get extremely favorable calls. Mahomes is the latest. BUFF got FUBARed last season, and badly. JAX got FUBARed so Brady would be in the super bowl. It really takes very little evaluation to see what's happening, the NFL wants certain QBs in, and they want close games. It's not an accident that blowouts are much less frequent than they used to be, and comebacks now rule the day.

So, I do take away some of those 7 rings, sorry.

Well, that’s sounds more like a personal issue or slant than what is officially recognized with Brady when we start talking rings away.

I would agree much like in all sports the greater athletes get more favorable calls. But in the spirit of competition IMO it’s more about that referees naturally believe it takes more than ability to thwart them not a direct directive from league officials to throw the games in their favor which all falls into those conspiracy theories.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

That's all QBs dude. All QBs play bottom feeders. They all struggle vs. non-division teams. So are we just dismissing factual statistics because a bad team was on the schedule? That's stupid. And once again, you're attributing wins and losses to just one player. Is everything "garbage time?"
I'm not sure Prescott could play much better than he did this past season. With an average O line, running game and the worst defense known to mankind. Besides his WRs, who's playing better?

You completely choose to ignore the post that showed that Brady was above .500 outside his division as well in his division, unlike our quarterback. Again, I'm not the one who chose to compare Brady and Dak. Its absurd to ignore that team wins positively impact quarterback stats and then to try to brush under the table that a quarterback that plays all his career in a weak division didn't benefit statistically from it. At the end of the Day Brady was above .500 inside his division, outside his division and in the playoffs, which is why it is foolish to compare Dak to him.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dak has about a .500 record outside the NFC east.

Tom Brady's record against non-division opponents during his first ten seasons (2000-2009) was approximately
68 wins and 23 losses in the regular season. This includes his first year where he played only one game and the 2008 season he missed due to injury, but relies on game logs as general career records against divisions show high win percentages.
Over his entire career with New England, Brady maintained a highly consistent winning percentage across all divisions he faced, demonstrating his success was not solely dependent on his division opponents.
His career regular season winning percentages against other divisions are as follows (including games played beyond his first ten seasons):

• AFC South: .848 winning percentage (39-7 record)
• AFC North: .816 winning percentage (31-7 record)
• NFC South: .810 winning percentage (17-4 record)
• NFC North: .800 winning percentage (16-4 record)
• NFC East: .700 winning percentage (14-6 record)
• AFC West: .643 winning percentage (27-15 record)
• NFC West: .643 winning percentage (9-5 record)

He had a highly successful record against nearly every team in the NFL, with few teams managing a tied or winning record against him over his entire career

Don't give me your crap. Year after year, Tom Brady would cry like the little kid he is and get the refs to suddenly throw flags against the opposing team, suddenly keeping a drive alive and allowing Brady and the Patriots to score. That's not including the years of cheating they would do to try to get the upper hand. In their book, you're not trying to win if you're not cheating. That is what you're praising.

 

[Diehardblues]

You completely choose to ignore the post that showed that Brady was above .500 outside his division as well in his division, unlike our quarterback. Again, I'm not the one who chose to compare Brady and Dak. It’s absurd to ignore that team wins positively impact quarterback stats and then to try to brush under the table that a quarterback that plays all his career in a weak division didn't benefit statistically from it. At the end of the Day Brady was above .500 inside his division, outside his division and in the playoffs, which is why it is foolish to compare Dak to him.

Brady’s record in AFC was almost as high as in division , well over .700

I’ve attached his career record against all .
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/brady-winning-percentage-vs-each-division

 

[G2]

You completely choose to ignore the post that showed that Brady was above .500 outside his division as well in his division, unlike our quarterback. Again, I'm not the one who chose to compare Brady and Dak. Its absurd to ignore that team wins positively impact quarterback stats and then to try to brush under the table that a quarterback that plays all his career in a weak division didn't benefit statistically from it. At the end of the Day Brady was above .500 inside his division, outside his division and in the playoffs, which is why it is foolish to compare Dak to him.

Being
Above
.500
Is
A
Team
Accolade

 

[America's Cowboy]

Depends on perception. I've watched several QBs now get extremely favorable calls. Mahomes is the latest. BUFF got FUBARed last season, and badly. JAX got FUBARed so Brady would be in the super bowl. It really takes very little evaluation to see what's happening, the NFL wants certain QBs in, and they want close games. It's not an accident that blowouts are much less frequent than they used to be, and comebacks now rule the day.

So, I do take away some of those 7 rings, sorry.

Preach, K!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

QB is the only position where team records are attached .

If QB’s are on winning teams they receive possibly too much credit for their success and if on a losing team too much blame for losing.

Thats just the nature of the beast. The same applies for HC’s.

It doesn’t always translate into how great or not QB’s are but QB’s do have arguably more impact than any other position.

 

[Diehardblues]

I always thought we didn’t have to support all of the moving parts to support the sum?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Being
Above
.500
Is
A
Team
Accolade

What is Causation? Keep pretending that you can't grasp the concept of being above .500 (A team accolade) does not impact personal stats. You are arguing that Team stats don't influence Personal Stats?

 

[Diehardblues]

Cowboy fans don’t have to believe in our owner, HC, or QB for example to be a Cowboys fan.

We can be critical on different aspects , have our own opinions and views while still rooting the sum on.

I’m not sure all fans get this.

And if some fans get defensive over their fav stars that’s fine too. That’s all part of being a fan. We should all respect each others opinions.

In the end we all want to win. We just don’t all agree on how to get there and or where we are.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

QB is the only position where team records are attached .

If QB’s are on winning teams they receive possibly too much credit for their success and if on a losing team too much blame for losing.

Thats just the nature of the beast. The same applies for HC’s.

It doesn’t always translate into how great or not QB’s are but QB’s do have arguably more impact than any other position.

Certain forum members think the "blame" part has only ever applied to Dak. And at the same time perfectly willing to assign the credit to Dak.

Very strange logic but....what can ya do?

 

[DallasEast]

STOP THE NAMECALLING, DIRECTING OTHER MEMBERS TO LEAVE, ETC.!

THIS THREAD WILL BE LOCKED IF THIS CONTINUES!

 

[Diehardblues]

Certain forum members think the "blame" part has only ever applied to Dak. And at the same time perfectly willing to assign the credit to Dak.

Very strange logic but....what can ya do?

They are entitled to their opinions and how they express their fandom. Fandom doesn’t have to be logical.

I seriously doubt you’re going to persuade their views. There’s nothing you can do. Offer your opinion and move on.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

They are entitled to their opinions and how they express their fandom. Fandom doesn’t have to be logical.

I seriously doubt you’re going to persuade their views. There’s nothing you can do. Offer your opinion and move on.

Yes indeed. EVERYONE is...or should be.

 

[kskboys]

Well, that’s sounds more like a personal issue or slant than what is officially recognized with Brady when we start talking rings away.

I would agree much like in all sports the greater athletes get more favorable calls. But in the spirit of competition IMO it’s more about that referees naturally believe it takes more than ability to thwart them not a direct directive from league officials to throw the games in their favor which all falls into those conspiracy theories.

Cheap shot. C'mooooooooon.

Nothing personal about it. I sat there and watched JAX get screwed over and over and over. It was disgusting.

Offhand, it sounds more like a personal issue w/ you. You don't want to believe it, so you make up reasons so you don't have to. Can't get any more personal than that. If you think there's nothing going on it's because you don't want to see it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes indeed. EVERYONE is...or should be.

It’s much like division in ideologies and beliefs in societal issues. Fanatic doesn’t always follow logic or factual data.

Attending games is a great example. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen other Cowboy fans who’s conduct and expression of their favorite player is totally over the top.

That’s all part of it. It’s not my job or duty to whizz on their fanatical ways. Some fans conduct themselves in all sorts of erratic behavior I’d frown on.

If I don’t want to see it then I should stay away or at home. I think same applies here.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cheap shot. C'mooooooooon.

Nothing personal about it. I sat there and watched JAX get screwed over and over and over. It was disgusting.

Offhand, it sounds more like a personal issue w/ you. You don't want to believe it, so you make up reasons so you don't have to. Can't get any more personal than that. If you think there's nothing going on it's because you don't want to see it.

We see the same thing. We just come away with different thoughts. Much like we might disagree on how a penalty is called.

I acknowledge the greater talent receive more favorable calls. I just don’t agree in the same conspiracy theories.

I’d need some investigation or whistleblowers that reveals what you’re claiming .

 

[kskboys]

We see the same thing. We just come away with different thoughts. Much like we might disagree on how a penalty is called.

I acknowledge the greater talent receive more favorable calls. I just don’t agree in the same conspiracy theories.

OK, but you just contradicted yourself. Giving the greater talent favorable calls is the very definition of manipulating games.