Blaming Jerry is the lazy way out

SoupcanSam said:
Reading all these posts about the Patriots and Rams rebuilding while we sit here stuck in the mud made me realize something.

We love to use Jerry as a shield. It's comfortable. It's easy. But honestly, blaming Jerry for the last 30 years is letting the actual players and coaches off the hook.

I know the counter-argument: "Jerry is cheap in Free Agency." And yeah, for a long time, he was. We all hated the bargain bin shopping years. But look at where the money actually goes.

First, he pays the homegrown talent. He resets the market for our own guys constantly. He didn't cheap out on Dak. He didn't cheap out on CeeDee. When we have a star, they get paid top dollar.

Second, the roster is always considered "stacked." Every single August, the national media talks about how loaded our roster is. We at times have some of the highest numbers of Pro Bowlers in the league. You can nitpick a bust here and there, but generally, the GM puts a potential playoff-caliber roster on the field every year.

Third, the "All-In" move. We finally screamed for a big trade, and he went out and got Quinnen Williams and George Pickens. He actually pushed the chips in.

My point is this: The front office does its job by assembling a playoff-caliber roster. They hand over a team loaded with talent. The failure lies with the coaches who can't maximize that talent and the players who disappear in big moments. The resources are there; the execution is what's missing.

When we lose in the playoffs, have losing seasons, is it because Jerry has an ego? Or is it because we have a locker room full of professionals who consistently fold when they get punched in the mouth? The Patriots are in the Super Bowl because their players executed. Ours didn't.

Blaming the owner feels good, but he gave them a loaded deck and they still couldn't win the hand. At some point, we have to stop yelling at the guy in the owner's box and start demanding more from the guys wearing the star.
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No. Jerry is by a mile the most at fault. That doesn’t mean others don’t share in the blame, like the players Jerry signs who aren’t good enough and the coaches he hires who have failed miserably (not counting this group as it’s too new). There is one constant over the last 3 decades.

Also the idea that everyone thinks we are loaded every August is quite confusing. Who thinks that other than Jerry and his blind followers?
 
Forget about other sports. Heck. Set aside all forms of businesses, both big and small.

In the NFL, general managers are hired to build teams that win championships. There have always been outliers, but generally, not winning or even seriously competing for championships gets GMs routinely fired. And then a new one gets hired to take their place.

Seemingly, the Dallas Cowboys' franchise should be considered an exception. How does Jerry Jones do it? Hypnosis? Prayer? A blood-soaked contract with the Devil? I don't know, but it must be some powerful voodoo <expletive>.
 
SoupcanSam said:
Reading all these posts about the Patriots and Rams rebuilding while we sit here stuck in the mud made me realize something.

We love to use Jerry as a shield. It's comfortable. It's easy. But honestly, blaming Jerry for the last 30 years is letting the actual players and coaches off the hook.
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Didn't Jerry pick the coaches as well as the players? If so, he deserves the blame for all of this.
 
Ummmmm no it's not! He's been the GM the entire time that he's been owner and guess what it's been 30 freakin year since we've even been to the NFC Championship game never mind the Super Bowl.
 
If anyone other than the owner is blamed, we have a problem. Incompatibility among the coaching staff. Holding on to players past their prime. Spending money on players past their prime. Bringing in talent that does not fit the offensive or defensive schemes. His squabble with Jimmy caused other good coaches to avoid the Star.
 
SoupcanSam said:
Reading all these posts about the Patriots and Rams rebuilding while we sit here stuck in the mud made me realize something.

We love to use Jerry as a shield. It's comfortable. It's easy. But honestly, blaming Jerry for the last 30 years is letting the actual players and coaches off the hook.

I know the counter-argument: "Jerry is cheap in Free Agency." And yeah, for a long time, he was. We all hated the bargain bin shopping years. But look at where the money actually goes.

First, he pays the homegrown talent. He resets the market for our own guys constantly. He didn't cheap out on Dak. He didn't cheap out on CeeDee. When we have a star, they get paid top dollar.

Second, the roster is always considered "stacked." Every single August, the national media talks about how loaded our roster is. We at times have some of the highest numbers of Pro Bowlers in the league. You can nitpick a bust here and there, but generally, the GM puts a potential playoff-caliber roster on the field every year.

Third, the "All-In" move. We finally screamed for a big trade, and he went out and got Quinnen Williams and George Pickens. He actually pushed the chips in.

My point is this: The front office does its job by assembling a playoff-caliber roster. They hand over a team loaded with talent. The failure lies with the coaches who can't maximize that talent and the players who disappear in big moments. The resources are there; the execution is what's missing.

When we lose in the playoffs, have losing seasons, is it because Jerry has an ego? Or is it because we have a locker room full of professionals who consistently fold when they get punched in the mouth? The Patriots are in the Super Bowl because their players executed. Ours didn't.

Blaming the owner feels good, but he gave them a loaded deck and they still couldn't win the hand. At some point, we have to stop yelling at the guy in the owner's box and start demanding more from the guys wearing the star.
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Could not disagree more vehemently. Jerry is THE problem. Everything else pales compared to him.

Here's what you missed: Jerry as the GM is responsible for all these players and coaches you are blaming.

The resources on Defense are absolutely not there. We have a semi-pro D.

Overpaying is part of his issue.

Media? Seriously? You're doing your player evaluation according to the media? This is one weird thread.
 
Sydla said:
LOL, who picks the coaches?

And this "roster" is almost always overrated talent wise.

So yeah, Jerry is to blame. We aren't talking a few years here. We are talking 3 decades. The roster has changed. The coaches have changed. Shoot the scouts have changed. There has been on constant THROUGHOUT THE 30 YEARS............. Jerry.

It's idiotic to try to shift the blame anywhere else. It's not lazy to blame Jerry. It's downright accurate to blame Jerry. Geezus.
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Hey, at least we now know the name Jerry posts under on here!!!!
 
SoupcanSam said:
Reading all these posts about the Patriots and Rams rebuilding while we sit here stuck in the mud made me realize something.

We love to use Jerry as a shield. It's comfortable. It's easy. But honestly, blaming Jerry for the last 30 years is letting the actual players and coaches off the hook.

I know the counter-argument: "Jerry is cheap in Free Agency." And yeah, for a long time, he was. We all hated the bargain bin shopping years. But look at where the money actually goes.

First, he pays the homegrown talent. He resets the market for our own guys constantly. He didn't cheap out on Dak. He didn't cheap out on CeeDee. When we have a star, they get paid top dollar.

Second, the roster is always considered "stacked." Every single August, the national media talks about how loaded our roster is. We at times have some of the highest numbers of Pro Bowlers in the league. You can nitpick a bust here and there, but generally, the GM puts a potential playoff-caliber roster on the field every year.

Third, the "All-In" move. We finally screamed for a big trade, and he went out and got Quinnen Williams and George Pickens. He actually pushed the chips in.

My point is this: The front office does its job by assembling a playoff-caliber roster. They hand over a team loaded with talent. The failure lies with the coaches who can't maximize that talent and the players who disappear in big moments. The resources are there; the execution is what's missing.

When we lose in the playoffs, have losing seasons, is it because Jerry has an ego? Or is it because we have a locker room full of professionals who consistently fold when they get punched in the mouth? The Patriots are in the Super Bowl because their players executed. Ours didn't.

Blaming the owner feels good, but he gave them a loaded deck and they still couldn't win the hand. At some point, we have to stop yelling at the guy in the owner's box and start demanding more from the guys wearing the star.
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Jerry is the only common thread running through 30 years of futility. So, blaming him is warranted and he would agree.

The rosters we assemble are top heavy and thin. There is no depth.

Q was a midseason, desperation trade. He "vaulted" us from the worst defense in the NFL to the second worst defense in the NFL.

The fact is that there is no coherent football strategy and the roster reflects that scattershot approach year after year.
 
SoupcanSam said:
Reading all these posts about the Patriots and Rams rebuilding while we sit here stuck in the mud made me realize something.

We love to use Jerry as a shield. It's comfortable. It's easy. But honestly, blaming Jerry for the last 30 years is letting the actual players and coaches off the hook.

I know the counter-argument: "Jerry is cheap in Free Agency." And yeah, for a long time, he was. We all hated the bargain bin shopping years. But look at where the money actually goes.

First, he pays the homegrown talent. He resets the market for our own guys constantly. He didn't cheap out on Dak. He didn't cheap out on CeeDee. When we have a star, they get paid top dollar.

Second, the roster is always considered "stacked." Every single August, the national media talks about how loaded our roster is. We at times have some of the highest numbers of Pro Bowlers in the league. You can nitpick a bust here and there, but generally, the GM puts a potential playoff-caliber roster on the field every year.

Third, the "All-In" move. We finally screamed for a big trade, and he went out and got Quinnen Williams and George Pickens. He actually pushed the chips in.

My point is this: The front office does its job by assembling a playoff-caliber roster. They hand over a team loaded with talent. The failure lies with the coaches who can't maximize that talent and the players who disappear in big moments. The resources are there; the execution is what's missing.

When we lose in the playoffs, have losing seasons, is it because Jerry has an ego? Or is it because we have a locker room full of professionals who consistently fold when they get punched in the mouth? The Patriots are in the Super Bowl because their players executed. Ours didn't.

Blaming the owner feels good, but he gave them a loaded deck and they still couldn't win the hand. At some point, we have to stop yelling at the guy in the owner's box and start demanding more from the guys wearing the star.
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The media does not talk about how loaded how roster is! The media talks about how loaded our offense is. Jerry has failed to do his due diligence and invest in the defense.
 
When the owner makes himself responsible for making up the roster, he is thus responsible for hiring coaches to coach these players successfully. Mike Macdonald and John Schneider are arguably the best HC/GM in the NFL, and they are going to the Super Bowl, and have built a winning team around Samuel Richard Darnold......The Seahawks' record in 2023 was 9-8, their record in 2024 was 10-7, and in 2024, well....you know. We went from 3 consecutive 12-win seasons to 2 consecutive 7-win seasons. So we have Jerry as the GM/Owner/President, and Schotty as the HC. One franchise takes winning seriously, and one well......
 
You all know how I feel about jerry, of course its him, But hey, I see pot, I stir. Another SB without dallas in it, I'm bored!

Congrats Seahawks!
 
Tabascocat said:
Who obtains those players and coaches? It is the GM who is incompetent at building a complete team. So, yea…..it is all on him.
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Also, some Prime coaches would never come here, because the Jerry the GM mold has been set. Everything that is wrong begins with the Owner and his choice of GM.
 
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