The Fan on FA Sam Williams future as a Cowboy

[phildadon86]

That is a very fair take. Sam makes a ton of bonehead plays.

But you are not getting anything resembling a solid Edge at 3 years for 9M.
Sam being goofy is the only reason you get an athlete of his caliber at that rate.
And the one thing guys tend to do as they age is learn.

Recall Chauncey Gholston got 3 years and 19.5M and I do not think he made a single play in his Cowboys career.

He also did not just randomly jump offsides though so there is that.

Sam Williams has had more bad plays than impact plays.

He’s had 4 years. Hes done nothing.

Move on.

 

[phildadon86]

I agree. Phillips is a prime example of a guy you shouldn’t pay but fans will clamor for it and then say Jerry is stuoid when it flops.

I wouldn’t pay Phillips.

Hes a concussion away from never playing again.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I wouldn’t pay Phillips.

Hes a concussion away from never playing again.

But people will want him. For the right price I’d take the risk but I don’t think his team would.

 

[phildadon86]

But people will want him. For the right price I’d take the risk but I don’t think his team would.

Anything guaranteed is the wrong deal lol

 

[FVSTONE]

As reserve and budget friendly deal. The 3 years for $9M sounds reasonable to avoid creating another hole to fill.

Time to move on, he couldn't even be an average edge rusher when doubled and tripled team Parsons was playing opposite from him.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Maybe a 1-year deal for like $3M?

 

[eromeopolk]

As reserve and budget friendly deal. The 3 years for $9M sounds reasonable to avoid creating another hole to fill.

Sign him, you can play him at LDE or RDT in this defense.

 

[Chuck 54]

Not worth the money he may want, but you have to admit one thing.
Sam is a stud special team performer.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He’s had 4 years. Hes done nothing.

Move on.

Hard to imagine a 2nd round pick who has done nothing in four years yet we are talking about possibly bringing him back?

 

[RonWashington]

By the time a second contract is rolling up and your a speed edge not getting to the QB for sacks and you don’t set the edge on the run very well PFF is what’s supposed to make Dallas pay him to stay ?

 

[RonWashington]

Damone Clark Kelvin Joseph Jabril Cox Mazi Smith and yes Sam Williams will not be difference makers the sooner you move on look elsewhere the better off your D should become

 

[plasticman]

What hole did Williams fill? Is low production a team need?

I heard a lot of talk from him but I didn't see anything close to proportional results.

His four year career includes a combined single-digit sacks. We can get that productivity from the majority of undrafted rookie free agents.

 

[TwentyOne]

As reserve and budget friendly deal. The 3 years for $9M sounds reasonable to avoid creating another hole to fill.

Idk.

He has talent. Its not easy to have a roughing the passer or enroachment penalty at the most important time im the game. Where it hurts your team the most.

He is able to do that. And even make it look easy. That alone should be worth another million or two.

 

[phildadon86]

Hard to imagine a 2nd round pick who has done nothing in four years yet we are talking about possibly bringing him back?

Some fans would rather be right than anything else.

 

[John813]

Just let him go. This is the same routine with the front office too scared to get professional scouts to analyze players around the NFL.

Maybe it'll click for him one day, or he was just a reach pick by Quinn. But he hasn't once come close in 4 years of putting it all together.

 

[eromeopolk]

As reserve and budget friendly deal. The 3 years for $9M sounds reasonable to avoid creating another hole to fill.

They don't grow these football players on trees:
Pre-draft measurables

Height	Weight	Arm length	Hand span	40-yard dash	10-yard split	20-yard split	20-yard shuttle	Three-cone drill	Vertical jump	Broad jump	Bench press
6 ft 3+5⁄8 in (1.92 m)	261 lb (118 kg)	33+1⁄8 in (0.84 m)	9+7⁄8 in (0.25 m)	4.46 s	1.55 s	2.57 s	4.34 s	7.03 s	36.0 in (0.91 m)	10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)	25 reps

He has played under 3 different DC. Keep him and let him use the gifts God gave him. If possible, in the same defense for 2 years in a row. Plus he is a very good ST player.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He has played under 3 different DC. Keep him and let him use the gifts God gave him. If possible, in the same defense for 2 years in a row. Plus he is a very good ST player.

I know he has been hurt, but it's been 4 years. At some point he needs to start consistently producing and not just occasionally flash. His rookie deal was for $6,322,499 so he hasn't cost much at least.

 

[StarBoyz83]

They don't grow these football players on trees:
Pre-draft measurables

Height	Weight	Arm length	Hand span	40-yard dash	10-yard split	20-yard split	20-yard shuttle	Three-cone drill	Vertical jump	Broad jump	Bench press
6 ft 3+5⁄8 in (1.92 m)	261 lb (118 kg)	33+1⁄8 in (0.84 m)	9+7⁄8 in (0.25 m)	4.46 s	1.55 s	2.57 s	4.34 s	7.03 s	36.0 in (0.91 m)	10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)	25 reps

He has played under 3 different DC. Keep him and let him use the gifts God gave him. If possible, in the same defense for 2 years in a row. Plus he is a very good ST player.

Lol

 

[The Natural]

They don't grow these football players on trees:
Pre-draft measurables

Height	Weight	Arm length	Hand span	40-yard dash	10-yard split	20-yard split	20-yard shuttle	Three-cone drill	Vertical jump	Broad jump	Bench press
6 ft 3+5⁄8 in (1.92 m)	261 lb (118 kg)	33+1⁄8 in (0.84 m)	9+7⁄8 in (0.25 m)	4.46 s	1.55 s	2.57 s	4.34 s	7.03 s	36.0 in (0.91 m)	10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)	25 reps

He has played under 3 different DC. Keep him and let him use the gifts God gave him. If possible, in the same defense for 2 years in a row. Plus he is a very good ST player.

The measurables are what got us in this mess. He isn't a good football player, you can get ST guys in the UDFA pool every year.

 

[TwentyOne]

They don't grow these football players on trees:
Pre-draft measurables

Height	Weight	Arm length	Hand span	40-yard dash	10-yard split	20-yard split	20-yard shuttle	Three-cone drill	Vertical jump	Broad jump	Bench press
6 ft 3+5⁄8 in (1.92 m)	261 lb (118 kg)	33+1⁄8 in (0.84 m)	9+7⁄8 in (0.25 m)	4.46 s	1.55 s	2.57 s	4.34 s	7.03 s	36.0 in (0.91 m)	10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)	25 reps

He has played under 3 different DC. Keep him and let him use the gifts God gave him. If possible, in the same defense for 2 years in a row. Plus he is a very good ST player.

the only gift the guy has is drawing penalties in the worst situations.

he is an idiot (sorry this is no offense, the guy is just plain stupid) and doesnt get it even after 4 years.

the guy is just an great athlete but a bad football player.