Cowboy thoughts/opinions about day 1 fa

[75boyz]

Chubb and Chaisson. I'd take either but I like Chaisson. Trading for Kavon Thibodeaux would be a really sick move. The Giants might be soft on him.

Yep, Chaisson would be a definite net gain as a pass rusher. Far superior to Gary.
I hope Dallas gets him.

 

[deerhunter11]

Thanks for your write up enjoyed as usual. We got Gary at equivalent money to much lesser rushers. It cost us what would be a fifth rounder this year therefore a fourth rounder next year. Cry me a river

Gary is a solid addition to the front 7, he had 7.5 sacks 7 tackles for loss and 33 total quarterback pressures last season. Jalen Thompson will replace Donovan Wilson who was a liability in pass coverage, Thompson is a 7-year veteran who can cover and is a sound open field tackler. Good first day of free agency for Dallas.

 

[Acceptablename]

Gary is a solid addition to the front 7, he had 7.5 sacks 7 tackles for loss and 33 total quarterback pressures last season. Jalen Thompson will replace Donovan Wilson who was a liability in pass coverage, Thompson is a 7-year veteran who can cover and is a sound open field tackler. Good first day of free agency for Dallas.

I'm pleased with the new approach by the FO

 

[gtb1943]

Gary and Thompson are good gets and reasonably done

BUT THEN WE KEEP STEELE AND WILLIAMS

two steps forward, two steps back

 

[gimmesix]

We just didn't know if the Cowboys would change the way they handle fa period. I think adding two players on day 1, 1 fa and 1 trade is a start in the right direction:

Gary-he is our new starting LE or 3-4 OLB. Why trade for him if he was going to be cut? He was going to cost more and you they would have to contend with other teams to sign him. Considering a player like Mafe who is coming off of a 2 sack season, got a 20 million per season deal. Hell, Jalen Phillips and his 5 sacks got him a 30 million. Also, with any trade you don't take on any bonus money, which makes his contract no cost to get out of, but easy to manipulate the cap charge. Heard they can possibly make his cap charge this season only 4 million.

Ansley our new passing game coordinator was with Green Bay and knows everything about the player, even CP was on the staff when Gary was drafted. Point is, they know what they are getting. Is he an elite pass rusher? No, but is a good scheme fit for what CP wants. There is a good podcast out there with footstheking having a discussion what type of edge they will be looking for in this scheme, it pretty much describes a player like Gary.

Thompson-in my opinion, he was the best safety on the market. Then actually got him at a good price. He has experience at both safety positions as well as snaps at the nickel. He played for our new DB coach in Arizona, so another player then know fully well what they are getting. He is a massive upgrade over Wilson in coverage. He was the far better safety then the other two linked to the Cowboys in Blankenship and PJ Locke.

Linebacker-seeing Dean get 12 million a season, glad the Cowboys didn't land him. That is awfully a lot for a player that struggles with availability. Quay Walker got even more and his play has been up and down, Lloyd scares me to death, doing nothing until a contract season.

I am pretty sure the Cowboys have a plan to add a veteran linebacker if it is fa or the trade market. Hell, there was a rumor that the 49ers might make Fred Warner available. Good news is that the incoming LB draft class is loaded, could be 4 1st rd linebackers.

Other Needs to address:

-Veteran corner
-that 4i DE
-Nickel
-more pass rush
-maybe another safety

Not sure how to feel about it.

The positive is definitely Dallas being willing to give a three-year contract to Thompson. That shows a level of investment in an outside free agent that we haven't seen since 2012.

Gary was a more familiar-type decision. The Cowboys have remained willing to trade picks for players other teams are looking to dump. Green Bay would not have traded Gary for just a 2027 fourth-rounder if a) he was worth more than that and b) they didn't feel he was no longer worth his contract.

The trade is probably more similar to Gilmore and Cooks than Murray and Elam, though, so if we're going to find our pass rusher that way, at least they got one with some skins on the wall.

The team seems to be trying, or at least putting it out there that it is trying with the rumors about being in on the Crosby trade and some of the linebackers we missed out on. Of course, trying doesn't matter if we don't improve the team.

 

[Cowboyny]

Not sure how to feel about it.

The positive is definitely Dallas being willing to give a three-year contract to Thompson. That shows a level of investment in an outside free agent that we haven't seen since 2012.

Gary was a more familiar-type decision. The Cowboys have remained willing to trade picks for players other teams are looking to dump. Green Bay would not have traded Gary for just a 2027 fourth-rounder if a) he was worth more than that and b) they didn't feel he was no longer worth his contract.

The trade is probably more similar to Gilmore and Cooks than Murray and Elam, though, so if we're going to find our pass rusher that way, at least they got one with some skins on the wall.

The team seems to be trying, or at least putting it out there that it is trying with the rumors about being in on the Crosby trade and some of the linebackers we missed out on. Of course, trying doesn't matter if we don't improve the team.

Gary is far younger and isn’t just a 1yr fix. He was clearly targeted by our current staff. When I studied the eagles championship roster, they never had elite edge rushers, either, but rather solid pieces around their star DT.

 

[Cowboyny]

This might seem pessimistic but it’s not—Gary has zero guaranteed money. They get a cheap look. If we happen to load up on ends in the draft we can move on from him or have leverage to negotiate a salary reduction.

He is the same boat as Clark, he can restructure or extend to lower his cap number

 

[Cowboyny]

Not sure how to feel about it.

The positive is definitely Dallas being willing to give a three-year contract to Thompson. That shows a level of investment in an outside free agent that we haven't seen since 2012.

Gary was a more familiar-type decision. The Cowboys have remained willing to trade picks for players other teams are looking to dump. Green Bay would not have traded Gary for just a 2027 fourth-rounder if a) he was worth more than that and b) they didn't feel he was no longer worth his contract.

The trade is probably more similar to Gilmore and Cooks than Murray and Elam, though, so if we're going to find our pass rusher that way, at least they got one with some skins on the wall.

The team seems to be trying, or at least putting it out there that it is trying with the rumors about being in on the Crosby trade and some of the linebackers we missed out on. Of course, trying doesn't matter if we don't improve the team.

When was the last time they gave a safety a 10 million plus contract? When was the last time they gave that to any player as a fa?

 

[Cowboyny]

And I like that concept a lot. It creates confusion on the oline. It makes it hard to adjust blocking to eliminate a single player. It requires smart players who are where they need to be, but it also makes more guys moving around underneath in the secondary to force the QB to think that one more second

That additional second could allow the rush to hit home

 

[Cowboyny]

That's a good point people are missing yesterday,

They may not like the names the Cowboys may pick up at linebacker or other positions but they got to realize how bad the scheme was as well and all the injuries a lot of those players were playing next to practice squad players who knew who was out of position or not running this game properly as well as the wrong schemes being called..

I mean it's addition by subtraction some of the players and coaches who are no longer here it should improve the team how could you be any worse than I believe they were ranked anywhere from 28 to 32 in every defensive category on the planet.

So just with the addition of a new scheme and the advice they're going to get from these coaches on which players may fit better so they can get it moving quicker off the ground and running as we should say,

they're going to need a lot more bodies and like I said before they can't be top heavy it can't just be about one name, We could've done that with Parsons..

You also have to figure with the line if they end up staying with it you have Clark ,OSA, and now Gary, who was used to playing this type of defense next to Clark, with Q.Williams getting a full offseason with us and with our team versus coming in in a trade mid-season mess, should be an instant upgrade..

Feel like EZE is going to make another step the dude was close fingertips away from some sacks versus pressures He was around the ball a lot he did pretty good in the run game and again it wasn't a aggressive pressure front they were trying to tell those guys hey you're on an island go make your own stats versus a lot defensive coordinators who actually try to create some pressure when you need to they help these guys get these stats..

Lastly as much as we may our linebacker core that's leftover there's going to be a lot of changes Overshown ,Liafu, Some of the others are going to get a chance at outside linebacker, this is a different scheme, and I'm betting with all this offseason in camps with a lot of healthy players this time that they should be better even game one than we were last year at Game 17...

I mean the disclaimer is if we don't have a bunch of injuries in camp this team will start out healthier Overshown bland and revel won't be rehabbing to start the season on pup etc

It's just a gut but I just think defense will better Even if it's a slight improvement to start and then gradually gets better I just feel the situations are completely different not just all new coaching staff but all these players having a full offseason ato work healthy.

And like Jerry said no red shirts no projects no injuries you cannot draft players and then wait for them The players you pick up this draft needs to be thought of as key players impact players they don't have to all be starters but they need to not be on PUP or be so green that you have to wait on them..

it is evident to me that they are trying build around Q Williams, kind of like how Philly rebuilt around Jalen Carter. Now you surround him with quality starters that have the ability to play together as a unit. This is not going to be disjointed like Eberflua scheme, everything is going to work together.

 

[gtb1943]

it is evident to me that they are trying build around Q Williams, kind of like how Philly rebuilt around Jalen Carter. Now you surround him with quality starters that have the ability to play together as a unit. This is not going to be disjointed like Eberflua scheme, everything is going to work together.

It does look like they finally have a plan not dreamed up by the Jones boys
And I am thinking Parker is mostly responsible for this

This is my guess: when he had the interview for DC, he presented a plan that schotty liked. and the Jones boys few remaining brain cells liked as well
and this is the result

 

[blueblood70]

Last half on...0 sacks
About when M.Parsons got season ending injury.
O.Line then able to control other d.line better

Sometimes that's just a coincidence, People trying to make something out of it like this guy can't create on his own, I've seen Parsons go two or three games in a row without a sack, and everyone claims, oh it's just about pressures. lmao

You can't use pressures as a way to prop up what Parsons does when he's not putting up stats, this is not Myles Garrett we're talking about, This isn't even guys like TJ/JJ Watt and the Bosa brothers, you know they all at least been a sack leader at least one of the years and if not multiple years, they don't just get 12 or 14 SACKS, they literally are getting 19 to 21 sacks, Hendrickson had a 17 sack year a couple years back.. I mean we just watched Miles Garrett set the sack record. I watched DE Marcus Ware have a couple of seasons that had 19 sacks.

People act like Parsons was DPOY, No that would be the other guys we're talking about that at least pro they earn that money because they've been the best at their position in a given year or multiple years Parsons has never led the league in sack and I don't care if he was in the conversation for DPOY it wasn't close..

But yes Parsons gave double digit sacks 12-15 per year , great, But he definitely lulls in his season ,not just because he was double teamed, he was also handled by Lane Johnson a couple of times, one on one there have been some great tackles ,when they went 1 on one with him, were able to neutralize him ,you could run at him, blah blah blah we've talked about this..

Let's not judge Gary and some of these other guys differently. Gary was second on the team to Parsons last year in pressures.

And yes Hes more like Tank, of what he gives you, he plays the run solid, gives you maximum effort , Typically make sure he's technically sound in the scheme does his job, Doesn't seem to be the type looking to make sure no matter what that he gets on the stat sheet to the detriment of the team.

So yes,

this is solid player He could be a three down player he can rush to pass her he can play the run he; he can create a situation where he needs to be double teamed...

So, no, we're not talking about an elite pass rusher but we're talking about a really good player that knows this defense and that will help along with the new safety get Christian Parker's scheme implemented during camp there are more guys coming like that we need more bodies than we need to be top heavy...

 

[KingCorcoran]

We just didn't know if the Cowboys would change the way they handle fa period. I think adding two players on day 1, 1 fa and 1 trade is a start in the right direction:

Gary-he is our new starting LE or 3-4 OLB. Why trade for him if he was going to be cut? He was going to cost more and you they would have to contend with other teams to sign him. Considering a player like Mafe who is coming off of a 2 sack season, got a 20 million per season deal. Hell, Jalen Phillips and his 5 sacks got him a 30 million. Also, with any trade you don't take on any bonus money, which makes his contract no cost to get out of, but easy to manipulate the cap charge. Heard they can possibly make his cap charge this season only 4 million.

Ansley our new passing game coordinator was with Green Bay and knows everything about the player, even CP was on the staff when Gary was drafted. Point is, they know what they are getting. Is he an elite pass rusher? No, but is a good scheme fit for what CP wants. There is a good podcast out there with footstheking having a discussion what type of edge they will be looking for in this scheme, it pretty much describes a player like Gary.

Thompson-in my opinion, he was the best safety on the market. Then actually got him at a good price. He has experience at both safety positions as well as snaps at the nickel. He played for our new DB coach in Arizona, so another player then know fully well what they are getting. He is a massive upgrade over Wilson in coverage. He was the far better safety then the other two linked to the Cowboys in Blankenship and PJ Locke.

Linebacker-seeing Dean get 12 million a season, glad the Cowboys didn't land him. That is awfully a lot for a player that struggles with availability. Quay Walker got even more and his play has been up and down, Lloyd scares me to death, doing nothing until a contract season.

I am pretty sure the Cowboys have a plan to add a veteran linebacker if it is fa or the trade market. Hell, there was a rumor that the 49ers might make Fred Warner available. Good news is that the incoming LB draft class is loaded, could be 4 1st rd linebackers.

Other Needs to address:

-Veteran corner
-that 4i DE
-Nickel
-more pass rush
-maybe another safety

In the short run good players are more important than good contracts. Jerry has an entire fanbase more concerned with how much a player is paid than how much a player provides.

The bill comes due and a team may have to retreat (Philly), but better to have tried to win a Super Bowl and failed than to not even try. Jerry doesn’t genuinely try. That’s the only way you go this long without even challenging for a Super Bowl appearance.

 

[Cowboyny]

In the short run good players are more important than good contracts. Jerry has an entire fanbase more concerned with how much a player is paid than how much a player provides.

The bill comes due and a team may have to retreat (Philly), but better to have tried to win a Super Bowl and failed than to not even try. Jerry doesn’t genuinely try. That’s the only way you go this long without even challenging for a Super Bowl appearance.

You want to be able to build out a balanced roster not overpay for average fa’s. They did already made a bold trade in acquiring q Williams, did try to land maxx, but they are being smart not to overpay for an average starter they will affect the entire roster if they fail to play up to that contract. There are no stars in this fa class outside of George Pickens who they are retaining

 

[Cowboyny]

It does look like they finally have a plan not dreamed up by the Jones boys
And I am thinking Parker is mostly responsible for this

This is my guess: when he had the interview for DC, he presented a plan that schotty liked. and the Jones boys few remaining brain cells liked as well
and this is the result

Clearly Parker is driving these signings and we have to trust he is is getting the right players for his scheme.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You want to be able to build out a balanced roster not overpay for average fa’s. They did already made a bold trade in acquiring q Williams, did try to land maxx, but they are being smart not to overpay for an average starter they will affect the entire roster if they fail to play up to that contract. There are no stars in this fa class outside of George Pickens who they are retaining

The team never overpays for free agents and never produces a roster that competes for a Super Bowl.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Was an ok 1st day. Safety should be a bit better. Pass rush eehh. The same or a little less than last year but added some depth to safety and dline also. Still early.

Its at least 2 year process to fix the defense so it is what it is so far.

 

[Sandyf]

A good day. Still work to do with CB and OLB. You tell the guys are the ones Parker wants and although he probably wanted Dean, it just didn't happen.

Let's see what happens with Henderson, Chaisson, Woolen, Chenal and others. Alot will determine what they do in the draft.

 

[Cowboyny]

The team never overpays for free agents and never produces a roster that competes for a Super Bowl.

See their in house players and tell me if they don’t overpay

 

[75boyz]

Clearly Parker is driving these signings and we have to trust he is is getting the right players for his scheme.

I thought it was GM Jones giving a Master's/PHD class on the art of NFL roster construction.

If you ain't a 4 dimensional chess player like Jerry, you prolly wouldnt understand.

It's a process.