Attention Jerry and Stephen: THIS is what All in really means

[Bobhaze]

The LA rams have once again thumbed their nose at the draft and the old school ways that NFL executives traditionally have chosen to build the key elements of their team.

The aggressive and highly successful rams GM Les Snead has become the supreme river boat gambler of NFL executives by making a huge “all in” move to acquire two time Defensive player of the year and 5 time first team All Pro Myles Garrett from Cleveland. In exchange the rams gave up their talented young LB Jared Verse, a 2027 first-rounder, and a conditional 2029 3rd round pick.

Attention JJ and SJ: THIS is what you call “All in”.

What is admirable about this move is not just that Les Snead and the rams made this move. It was WHEN and WHY they did it.

• By making the move in the spring, both the rams and the browns have those players in place for all remaining OTAs, mini-camps, training camp, etc. (Unlike a week before the season…if you know what I mean)
• The rams have shown they are willing to take a big risk WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE TO WINNING IT ALL. Last year the rams were really close to making the SB, losing to the eventual champs, the Seahawks 31-27 in the NFC championship. It was clear they needed a better pass rush. And they got it.
• Now the rams have to be considered the NFC favorite going into 2026. They are (on paper) what appears to be a much better football team.

In short, the rams GM saw last year that if they didn’t “go for it” and make a big move, they would likely not be better in 2026.

And for everyone saying the rams are “mortgaging their future” by doing this - they have already done this in 2021, and have a Lombardi to show for it. No guarantees this trade will translate to a SB win, but it is a lot more likely now than it was last year.

When the Cowboys say they are not willing to take risks like this with draft capital to “go for it”, then they might as well say, “We’re just hoping we’re going to catch lightening in a bottle”. Les Snead is saying, “Hold my beer while we GRAB that bottle”.

Low risk, low reward.

And here’s the rams playoff record under Les Snead since he took over in 2017:

• 10-6, 2 NFC championships in 3 appearnces, and 1 Lombardi.
• Cowboys in that same period: 2-4 with a ton more draft picks and “financial responsibility”.

Who’s ALL IN?

 

[Tangle_Foot]

Jerry and Steven are businessmen, they're not football men, they aren't savvy enough to pull the moves that the Rams have. If you build solely through the draft you can never miss on premium picks.

 

[Tabascocat]

The Rams(and 30 other teams) have a GM who can be held accountable if they don’t win Super Bowls and/or improve from season to season. Only one GM has no such constraints

 

[Bobhaze]

The Rams(and 30 other teams) have a GM who can be held accountable if they don’t win Super Bowls and/or improve from season to season. Only one GM has no such constraints

The rams under GM Les Snead in the last 9 seasons have won 6 more playoff games than Jerry and Stephen’s Cowboys have in 30 seasons.

Jerry talks about the importance of “stability” at the top. We certainly have that. The rams have more accountability than stability.

Give me accountability over stability all day.

 

[Kwyn]

“F them picks” - Les Snead 2/24

 

[DarkVader33]

The LA rams have once again thumbed their nose at the draft and the old school ways that NFL executives traditionally have chosen to build the key elements of their team.

The aggressive and highly successful rams GM Les Snead has become the supreme river boat gambler of NFL executives by making a huge “all in” move to acquire two time Defensive player of the year and 5 time first team All Pro Myles Garrett from Cleveland. In exchange the rams gave up their talented young LB Jared Verse, a 2027 first-rounder, and a conditional 2029 3rd round pick.

Attention JJ and SJ: THIS is what you call “All in”.

What is admirable about this move is not just that Les Snead and the rams made this move. It was WHEN and WHY they did it.

• By making the move in the spring, both the rams and the browns have those players in place for all remaining OTAs, mini-camps, training camp, etc. (Unlike a week before the season…if you know what I mean)
• The rams have shown they are willing to take a big risk WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE TO WINNING IT ALL. Last year the rams were really close to making the SB, losing to the eventual champs, the Seahawks 31-27 in the NFC championship. It was clear they needed a better pass rush. And they got it.
• Now the rams have to be considered the NFC favorite going into 2026. They are (on paper) what appears to be a much better football team.

In short, the rams GM saw last year that if they didn’t “go for it” and make a big move, they would likely not be better in 2026.

And for everyone saying the rams are “mortgaging their future” by doing this - they have already done this in 2021, and have a Lombardi to show for it. No guarantees this trade will translate to a SB win, but it is a lot more likely now than it was last year.

When the Cowboys say they are not willing to take risks like this with draft capital to “go for it”, then they might as well say, “We’re just hoping we’re going to catch lightening in a bottle”. Les Snead is saying, “Hold my beer while we GRAB that bottle”.

Low risk, low reward.

And here’s the rams playoff record under Les Snead since he took over in 2017:

• 10-6, 2 NFC championships in 3 appearnces, and 1 Lombardi.
• Cowboys in that same period: 2-4 with a ton more draft picks and “financial responsibility”.

Who’s ALL IN?

Not the other 31 teams in the league obviously. Their way is working at the moment because they have drafted well. There is a lot of luck in drafting and as soon as it goes to pot, their way won’t work anymore. Lies of different ways to skin a cat. What happens when the rest of the league follows suit? They won’t be able to get those players anymore.

This is not a defense of Jerry as he obviously needs to do more.

What the rams are doing is amazing but it can’t last. And we’ve seen that in the past with other supposed great GMs.

 

[LysleE]

It’s ironic how the Jones’ Boyz predicted the demise of both the Rams and Eagles for reloading their rosters and going “all-in,” who then subsequently went on to win multiple playoff and conference wins as well the Lombardi; while the Cowboys, who some may argue had more talent did nothing, other than getting blown out by the 7th seed in a 2023-24 home playoff debacle.
In fact, both the Eagles and Rams have garnered at least as many post-season playoff victories in their last four years than the Cowboys have managed over the last 25 years. Nicely played Jones’. But hey…this is the year the Cowboys have the pieces in place to make the Super Bowl.
I guess this is what the Cowboys mean by “hanging around the rim.”

 

[cristglo]

The LA rams have once again thumbed their nose at the draft and the old school ways that NFL executives traditionally have chosen to build the key elements of their team.

The aggressive and highly successful rams GM Les Snead has become the supreme river boat gambler of NFL executives by making a huge “all in” move to acquire two time Defensive player of the year and 5 time first team All Pro Myles Garrett from Cleveland. In exchange the rams gave up their talented young LB Jared Verse, a 2027 first-rounder, and a conditional 2029 3rd round pick.

Attention JJ and SJ: THIS is what you call “All in”.

What is admirable about this move is not just that Les Snead and the rams made this move. It was WHEN and WHY they did it.

• By making the move in the spring, both the rams and the browns have those players in place for all remaining OTAs, mini-camps, training camp, etc. (Unlike a week before the season…if you know what I mean)
• The rams have shown they are willing to take a big risk WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE TO WINNING IT ALL. Last year the rams were really close to making the SB, losing to the eventual champs, the Seahawks 31-27 in the NFC championship. It was clear they needed a better pass rush. And they got it.
• Now the rams have to be considered the NFC favorite going into 2026. They are (on paper) what appears to be a much better football team.

In short, the rams GM saw last year that if they didn’t “go for it” and make a big move, they would likely not be better in 2026.

And for everyone saying the rams are “mortgaging their future” by doing this - they have already done this in 2021, and have a Lombardi to show for it. No guarantees this trade will translate to a SB win, but it is a lot more likely now than it was last year.

When the Cowboys say they are not willing to take risks like this with draft capital to “go for it”, then they might as well say, “We’re just hoping we’re going to catch lightening in a bottle”. Les Snead is saying, “Hold my beer while we GRAB that bottle”.

Low risk, low reward.

And here’s the rams playoff record under Les Snead since he took over in 2017:

• 10-6, 2 NFC championships in 3 appearnces, and 1 Lombardi.
• Cowboys in that same period: 2-4 with a ton more draft picks and “financial responsibility”.

Who’s ALL IN?

Remember Jerry just likes to hang around the rim
He never likes the ball to go in.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Biggest of all was trading for Stafford. Jerry would never do that.

And then once you have Stafford, it makes a lot more sense to go all in.

 

[Bobhaze]

Not the other 31 teams in the league obviously. Their way is working at the moment because they have drafted well. There is a lot of luck in drafting and as soon as it goes to pot, their way won’t work anymore. Lies of different ways to skin a cat. What happens when the rest of the league follows suit? They won’t be able to get those players anymore.

This is not a defense of Jerry as he obviously needs to do more.

What the rams are doing is amazing but it can’t last. And we’ve seen that in the past with other supposed great GMs.

No NFL team ever “lasts” at the top these days anyway. When have the Cowboys been at the top the last three decades?

I contend it’s better to have 4-5 years of playoff glory followed by 3 years of being down than to have what we have - mediocrity. Not great but usually not terrible.

Besides…The “lean” years are when you rebuild. The Cowboys perceived “relevance” the last 30 years has translated into making the playoffs 40% of the time, and then doing nothing when they do make it.

 

[Risen Star]

Cowboys 41
Rams 17

 

[Cowboys5217]

Not the other 31 teams in the league obviously. Their way is working at the moment because they have drafted well. There is a lot of luck in drafting and as soon as it goes to pot, their way won’t work anymore. Lies of different ways to skin a cat. What happens when the rest of the league follows suit? They won’t be able to get those players anymore.

This is not a defense of Jerry as he obviously needs to do more.

What the rams are doing is amazing but it can’t last. And we’ve seen that in the past with other supposed great GMs.

Yes, you are defending Jerry even though you know it's stupid to do so. It's irrational to try and defend Jerry and claim the Rams are just getting lucky. Their way works and Jerry's does not. You'd have to be an utter moron to conclude otherwise in the face of overwhelming evidence in both cases.

 

[jazzcat22]

What if the Browns win the SB this year out of nowhere. Like other teams have done.
Will their way be the new way to do things?

It is a what have you done for me lately NFL.

 

[John813]

Biggest of all was trading for Stafford. Jerry would never do that.

And then once you have Stafford, it makes a lot more sense to go all in.

Especially after your #1 overall pick just went to the superbowl.
I think at that point, if our QB ever did that he would be employed till he's 90

Jerry would of been convinced Goff was his next Aikman, even if Goff laid an egg in the SB.

What's interesting to me is Dallas did go after Crosby, who is maybe a tier below Garrett but offered legit 3 down ability. Offering a 1st and 2nd for him. Outbid.
They did pivot to a way much cheaper option in Gary-who for all we know may of been cut at some point for a future 4th.
Even after the Crosby trade was reversed, unless that medical was truly bad, they could of still offered the same package, if not a hint less, for a legit edge. Could of had Crosby, Downs, EZE, Gary, Q Williams manning the defense. Which, at least on paper is worlds better than EZE, Gary & Lawrence, Downs Williams etc.

 

[Rockport]

Cowboys 41
Rams 17

42. Aubrey never misses.

 

[Bobhaze]

What if the Browns win the SB this year out of nowhere. Like other teams have done.
Will their way be the new way to do things?

It is a what have you done for me lately NFL.

It certainly is a “what have you done for me lately” league. As we Cowboys fans are painfully aware.

IMO you have to have more talent than Cleveland even to “come out of nowhere”.

You did ask a good question Jazzy. Will Cleveland’s way of doing things be the new way? I don’t know but we already know what the approach we’ve been using the last three decades has given us.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The LA rams have once again thumbed their nose at the draft and the old school ways that NFL executives traditionally have chosen to build the key elements of their team.

The aggressive and highly successful rams GM Les Snead has become the supreme river boat gambler of NFL executives by making a huge “all in” move to acquire two time Defensive player of the year and 5 time first team All Pro Myles Garrett from Cleveland. In exchange the rams gave up their talented young LB Jared Verse, a 2027 first-rounder, and a conditional 2029 3rd round pick.

Attention JJ and SJ: THIS is what you call “All in”.

What is admirable about this move is not just that Les Snead and the rams made this move. It was WHEN and WHY they did it.

• By making the move in the spring, both the rams and the browns have those players in place for all remaining OTAs, mini-camps, training camp, etc. (Unlike a week before the season…if you know what I mean)
• The rams have shown they are willing to take a big risk WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE TO WINNING IT ALL. Last year the rams were really close to making the SB, losing to the eventual champs, the Seahawks 31-27 in the NFC championship. It was clear they needed a better pass rush. And they got it.
• Now the rams have to be considered the NFC favorite going into 2026. They are (on paper) what appears to be a much better football team.

In short, the rams GM saw last year that if they didn’t “go for it” and make a big move, they would likely not be better in 2026.

And for everyone saying the rams are “mortgaging their future” by doing this - they have already done this in 2021, and have a Lombardi to show for it. No guarantees this trade will translate to a SB win, but it is a lot more likely now than it was last year.

When the Cowboys say they are not willing to take risks like this with draft capital to “go for it”, then they might as well say, “We’re just hoping we’re going to catch lightening in a bottle”. Les Snead is saying, “Hold my beer while we GRAB that bottle”.

Low risk, low reward.

And here’s the rams playoff record under Les Snead since he took over in 2017:

• 10-6, 2 NFC championships in 3 appearnces, and 1 Lombardi.
• Cowboys in that same period: 2-4 with a ton more draft picks and “financial responsibility”.

Who’s ALL IN?

The Rams are playing a desperate stupid game. I’ll change my tune if it works but I’m not sure this is a smart approach.

But I will say this they’ve done a good enough job with McVay to rebuild it up. If I had McVay I might be more accepting to this approach.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It certainly is a “what have you done for me lately” league. As we Cowboys fans are painfully aware.

IMO you have to have more talent than Cleveland even to “come out of nowhere”.

You did ask a good question Jazzy. Will Cleveland’s way of doing things be the new way? I don’t know but we already know what the approach we’ve been using the last three decades has given us.

That’s the thing though. Cowboys never had an approach. We’ve seen them spend, not spend, draft only, bargain bin shop on players abd coaches, we’ve seen the Parcells era….the leadership has been the same for 40 years but there hasn’t been one approach.

What they do hasn’t worked and I’m willing to bet the Rams approach wouldn’t either. But I also understand the reasoning to want to mimic a quality franchise.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Especially after your #1 overall pick just went to the superbowl.
I think at that point, if our QB ever did that he would be employed till he's 90

Jerry would of been convinced Goff was his next Aikman, even if Goff laid an egg in the SB.

As said many times, if Wentz had done here what he did in Philly that one year, Jerry would still be trying to make him work.

 

[Bobhaze]

That’s the thing though. Cowboys never had an approach. We’ve seen them spend, not spend, draft only, bargain bin shop on players abd coaches, we’ve seen the Parcells era….the leadership has been the same for 40 years but there hasn’t been one approach.

That’s a fair point.

But I would argue several other points in response:

• There have been multiple “approaches”. But there has been one GM in charge of all of them, and the results haven’t changed.
• When was the last time the Cowboys took a calculated major risk with a trade to “go for it”? The Parsons trade was a last minute desperate reactive move because of poor planning. It may pay some dividends - we did get some really good players because of it. But it will take longer than this season to know its value.
• When was the last time we hired a GREAT coach and let him cook? Twenty three years ago with Bill Parcells. Mike McCarthy was a good coach. But he was never “fully in charge”. No HC here has been since Jimmy left.

Yes we’ve tried several approaches. But we’ve never tried hiring a real GM that knows what they’re doing.