Doug Farr: Why DTs are more important than ever before

[Hawkeye0202]

Good read.........

 

[plasticman]

From 1961 to 1988, a period of 28 seasons, the Dallas Cowboys starting DT was a generational Hall of Famer who set the tone for an historical dominant defense.

Here is the mind-blower:

Two players filled the position of RDT during that 28 year span with back-to-back 14 year careers,

Randy White missed two games as the starter during his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly never missed a single game in his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly and Randy White defined the position of DT in the NFL for almost three decades. Both were legendary run-stoppers and relentless pass rushers.

They both led at the position of DT during their eras.

Cowboys football used to be defined by the nature of their defensive leader, that Right Defensive Tackle.

Is Quinnen Williams that guy in today's NFL?

 

[Coogiguy03]

haynesworth started it off, then it was the guy from the commanders, then all hell broke loose

 

[xwalker]

From 1961 to 1988, a period of 28 seasons, the Dallas Cowboys starting DT was a generational Hall of Famer who set the tone for an historical dominant defense.

Here is the mind-blower:

Two players filled the position of RDT during that 28 year span with back-to-back 14 year careers,

Randy White missed two games as the starter during his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly never missed a single game in his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly and Randy White defined the position of DT in the NFL for almost three decades. Both were legendary run-stoppers and relentless pass rushers.

They both led at the position of DT during their eras.

Cowboys football used to be defined by the nature of their defensive leader, that Right Defensive Tackle.

Is Quinnen Williams that guy in today's NFL?

The Cowboys won 3 of 5 total Super Bowls without a HOF DT.

They had great depth at DT during those nineties Super Bowls but nobody close to being in the HOF discussion.

Some of those years the 5th DT was one of Chad Hennings, Leon Lett or Jimmie Jones.

 

[xwalker]

Good read.........

The 3rd IDL in the 3-4 or 5-1-5 alignments is going to be a key factor.

Bullard Clark Williams

or

Clark Ogbonnia Williams

I think they like Bullard at 4i but don't want to wear down Kenny Clark at NT.

The 5-1-5 is basically the Nickel version of a 3-4.
- Maybe Clark plays more NT in that alignment.

 

[speedkilz88]

The 3rd IDL in the 3-4 or 5-1-5 alignments is going to be a key factor.

Bullard Clark Williams

or

Clark Ogbonnia Williams

I think they like Bullard at 4i but don't want to wear down Kenny Clark at NT.

The 5-1-5 is basically the Nickel version of a 3-4.
- Maybe Clark plays more NT in that alignment.

Ogbonnia has been the starting 4i so far. Bullard has been disappointing, but it's early of course.

 

[kskboys]

From 1961 to 1988, a period of 28 seasons, the Dallas Cowboys starting DT was a generational Hall of Famer who set the tone for an historical dominant defense.

Here is the mind-blower:

Two players filled the position of RDT during that 28 year span with back-to-back 14 year careers,

Randy White missed two games as the starter during his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly never missed a single game in his 14-year career.

Bob Lilly and Randy White defined the position of DT in the NFL for almost three decades. Both were legendary run-stoppers and relentless pass rushers.

They both led at the position of DT during their eras.

Cowboys football used to be defined by the nature of their defensive leader, that Right Defensive Tackle.

Is Quinnen Williams that guy in today's NFL?

And from there we went to players such as Casillas and Lett, both disruptive and both very good players.

Last time we had a #1 D was w/ Laroi Glover, who was highly disruptive.

We have never played in a super bowl w/ a JAG at the 3 tech. We've had a monster there for every super bowl.

 

[kskboys]

The Cowboys won 3 of 5 total Super Bowls without a HOF DT.

They had great depth at DT during those nineties Super Bowls but nobody close to being in the HOF discussion.

Some of those years the 5th DT was one of Chad Hennings, Leon Lett or Jimmie Jones.

HOF? You rate players only on whether they make the HOF? That is very weak, sir. Sorry, but it is.

Lett was a topnotch DT. Jimmie Jones would've started for most NFL teams.

Listen Walkytalky, no one is saying you have to have a HOF player there. I believe that is what you call a strawman. However, you must have quality there.

Did Hennings start for any of our super bowl teams?

 

[plasticman]

The Cowboys won 3 of 5 total Super Bowls without a HOF DT.

They had great depth at DT during those nineties Super Bowls but nobody close to being in the HOF discussion.

Some of those years the 5th DT was one of Chad Hennings, Leon Lett or Jimmie Jones.

True, none of the five rotational DTs made the Hall of Fame. However, there were other credentials...

Russell Maryland was a #1 overall draft pick and Pro Bowler

Tony Casillas was a #2 overall draft pick and Pro Bowler

Leon Lett made the Pro Bowl.

The point I was trying to make was that both Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson understood the importance of investing in the DT position.

When was the last time a team won the Super Bowl without a DT that was a 1st round pick and/or Pro Bowler?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Cowboys won 3 of 5 total Super Bowls without a HOF DT.

They had great depth at DT during those nineties Super Bowls but nobody close to being in the HOF discussion.

Some of those years the 5th DT was one of Chad Hennings, Leon Lett or Jimmie Jones.

If your worst DT is Hennings or Lett you have a great group of DTs….

 

[gtb1943]

Our PB DTs in the 90's were legitimate top players
and we had enough to platoon them which was critical

you cannot have a top Defense and be even Meh at DT nowadays

 

[kskboys]

If your worst DT is Hennings or Lett you have a great group of DTs….

Jimmie Jones was a rotational DT, and he was starting quality.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jimmie Jones was a rotational DT, and he was starting quality.

Yeah I honestly don’t remember him.

 

[plymkr]

At first glance I thought it said Doug Fart

 

[kskboys]

Yeah I honestly don’t remember him.

Made huge plays in the playoffs as other teams focused on Haley and Casillas.

Did you know that an aging Jim Jeffcoat had 10.5 sacks for our 92 season super bowl?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Made huge plays in the playoffs as other teams focused on Haley and Casillas.

Did you know that an aging Jim Jeffcoat had 10.5 sacks for our 92 season super bowl?

Yeah I’ve seen his stats I more so remember his son than I do him lol.

102 career sacks is incredible. Playing for 14 years is as well.

 

[kskboys]

Yeah I’ve seen his stats I more so remember his son than I do him lol.

102 career sacks is incredible.

One of the best pass rushers of all time, just on mostly really bad teams.

 

[Whyjerry]

A chronically under invested in position by the morons running this team. Let's hope they aren't dumb enough to miss the value a stud like Williams brings at the position.

 

[plasticman]

Two of the DTs that played for the Cowboys in the 90s were from Jimmy Johnson's championship Miami Hurricanes team.

Jimmy recruited them out of high school, coached them in college, and drafted them for the Cowboys.

Russel Maryland and Jimmie Jones were both ex-Hurricanes.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Two of the DTs that played for the Cowboys in the 90s were from Jimmy Johnson's championship Miami Hurricanes team.

Jimmy recruited them out of high school, coached them in college, and drafted them for the Cowboys.

Russel Maryland and Jimmie Jones were both ex-Hurricanes.

Jimmy liked his DT’s. Jimmie Jones and Russell Maryland were freshman on that 1987 team, backing up Jerome Brown. That team beat up Penn State in the title game (check the offensive stats) but lost, in great part due to Vinnie Testerverde tossing five int’s. Miami had seven turnovers total that game.