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Fan of Lanterns but one of my biggest pet peeves in TV is when they dedicate a whole episode to the backstory when the series is literally a backstory to John Stewarts origins.
 
A Captain Obvious statement but the video is LONG, lol. I have zero shame saying I have seen everything in the video.

 
Just typing my thoughts out so I can look back on them...

The closer Avengers: Doomsday gets, the more convinced I am that Sylvie was the catalyst for everything that will happen. The Loki series stated the events of Avengers: Endgame was supposed to happen. Years ago, Kevin Feige was Loki AND her actions in Loki was the cause for future events.

Now I am waiting for the movie to come out. Will they tie it with Loki? And if so, will Sylvie receive some sort of shout out in A: D?
 
Just typing my thoughts out so I can look back on them...

The closer Avengers: Doomsday gets, the more convinced I am that Sylvie was the catalyst for everything that will happen. The Loki series stated the events of Avengers: Endgame was supposed to happen. Years ago, Kevin Feige was Loki AND her actions in Loki was the cause for future events.

Now I am waiting for the movie to come out. Will they tie it with Loki? And if so, will Sylvie receive some sort of shout out in A: D?
I don't know. I feel like this movie will be just okay.

I'm getting JJ Abrams Star Wars vibes that they're just trying to copy the formula that won people over before. Same directors, same Iron Man actor, bring back the popular characters like Han Sol...errr, Captain America.

Another montage of all the Marvel entertainment pieces, only now, we've seen it in....

Avengers End Game
Deadpool
X-Men Days of Future Past
Spider-Man 3
The Flash
WB DC Shows

Although hard to knock 'em. Probably wasn't the greatest idea trying to tie together 25 TV Shows and 33 movies and hope the audience would remember it all, in a melodramatic multi-verse storyline that only excites comic book nerds.
 
I don't know. I feel like this movie will be just okay.

I'm getting JJ Abrams Star Wars vibes that they're just trying to copy the formula that won people over before. Same directors, same Iron Man actor, bring back the popular characters like Han Sol...errr, Captain America.

Another montage of all the Marvel entertainment pieces, only now, we've seen it in....

Avengers End Game
Deadpool
X-Men Days of Future Past
Spider-Man 3
The Flash
WB DC Shows

Although hard to knock 'em. Probably wasn't the greatest idea trying to tie together 25 TV Shows and 33 movies and hope the audience would remember it all, in a melodramatic multi-verse storyline that only excites comic book nerds.
You could be right. Too many characters = too many moving parts. It is a recipe that would lose the majority of an audience unless you have the right director who can see the entire picture from start to finish.

That said, I highly doubt the original core actors like Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, and Chris Hemsworth will turn off any significant segment of the audience.

Other actors may do so, especially those being injected into the MCU from the FOX franchises. Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars will serve as their final swan song. That is a good thing, especially for the pre-X-Men: First Class cast. The alternate universe of Sir Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen has long since grown too old in the tooth.

I have zero data to prove it, but I believe the bulk of the audience has neither seen close to 50% of the movie/television MCU nor will remember most of what they have seen already. The upcoming movies will simply be another movie night experience.

On the other hand, the minority of comic nerds <points at self> will be watching every little detail. That is part of the fun for us, or at least for me, which brings me back to Sylvie. I doubt they will work her into one of these movies, BUT it would be satisfying if they do for core MCU fans or even just the Loki series fans.

These movies will serve as an overall reset of the MCU, combining everything (or a good bit) that happened before and after Iron Man 2008 for different studios into one integrated sacred timeline. Loki's initial purpose was to herald in the baseline of these events before the Jonathan Majors' mishap. It did its job despite the redirection caused by abandoning Kang as the central antagonist.

Sylvie was that key for what shall transpire. Will Marvel acknowledge her, even in a small way? That is my question.
 
I don't know. I feel like this movie will be just okay.

I'm getting JJ Abrams Star Wars vibes that they're just trying to copy the formula that won people over before. Same directors, same Iron Man actor, bring back the popular characters like Han Sol...errr, Captain America.

Another montage of all the Marvel entertainment pieces, only now, we've seen it in....

Avengers End Game
Deadpool
X-Men Days of Future Past
Spider-Man 3
The Flash
WB DC Shows

Although hard to knock 'em. Probably wasn't the greatest idea trying to tie together 25 TV Shows and 33 movies and hope the audience would remember it all, in a melodramatic multi-verse storyline that only excites comic book nerds.
I have that same feeling.

It certainly reeks of desperation and going back to the well.
 
I have that same feeling.

It certainly reeks of desperation and going back to the well.
I am not as certain I would characterize it as desperation as I am as an effort to play it safe. My reasoning is based on each phase's planning, the pre-planned production of both upcoming movies, and the hiccup that impacted both. Here is the timeline of how things got from there to here:

Avengers: Endgame was a Phase 3 production. It was announced in October 2014. The movie began filming in August 2017. Disney announced the studio was acquiring Fox the following December. The mega merger was finalized in March 2019, around a month before A: E debuted in theaters. Disney assimilated film and television rights for The X-Men and Fantastic Four properties.​
Three years pass.​
Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars are Phase 6 productions. They were announced in July 2022.​
At some point, Kevin Feige and crew began conditional discussions of how the mutants and the FF would be integrated into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I would guess initial conversations began when Disney said it was gunning for Fox in late 2017.

After the A: E theater run began, Disney announced the already pre-planned Phase 4 the following July. The phase's purpose was the introduction of the post-Thanos big bad: Kang. Jonathan Majors' March 2023 legal problems caused the studio to revise its Phase 5 and Phase 6 plans.

This is my hypothetical of what went down. Before July 2019, Feige's crew first gambled on and was later justified using a huge ensemble cast with A: E. They approached the drawing board for the Multiverse saga with the assumption of duplicating the same box office success with the same tactic.

However, I thought the next huge ensemble cast would be composed with many X-Men actors, new FF actors, the Chrises Hemsworth and Evans (to tie-in the old and new group), and actors who made appearances along the way like Hailee Steinfeld, etc. I would have never guessed them returning Robert Downey, Jr. for any new role.

If I assumed correctly, A: D's massive casting was pre-planned seven years ago and that the studio believed throwing a ton of faces into the mix would work just as safely as the first time. I believe any desperation was thrown into the mix after the decision was made to ditch Majors and deciding which villain would replace Kang.
 
I am not as certain I would characterize it as desperation as I am as an effort to play it safe.
When you’re going back to paying Downey’s truly ridiculous salary, you’re desperate.

And I guarantee you that none of the other people returning came back for equal pay or less than what they were paid before.

Salaries for these two films have to be obscene.

My reasoning is based on each phase's planning, the pre-planned production of both upcoming movies, and the hiccup that impacted both. Here is the timeline of how things got from there to here:

Avengers: Endgame was a Phase 3 production. It was announced in October 2014. The movie began filming in August 2017. Disney announced the studio was acquiring Fox the following December. The mega merger was finalized in March 2019, around a month before A: E debuted in theaters. Disney assimilated film and television rights for The X-Men and Fantastic Four properties.​
Three years pass.​
Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars are Phase 6 productions. They were announced in July 2022.​
At some point, Kevin Feige and crew began conditional discussions of how the mutants and the FF would be integrated into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I would guess initial conversations began when Disney said it was gunning for Fox in late 2017.

After the A: E theater run began, Disney announced the already pre-planned Phase 4 the following July. The phase's purpose was the introduction of the post-Thanos big bad: Kang. Jonathan Majors' March 2023 legal problems caused the studio to revise its Phase 5 and Phase 6 plans.
The reception of Kang and overall failure of Ant-man Quantumania was a big factor as well.

This is my hypothetical of what went down. Before July 2019, Feige's crew first gambled on and was later justified using a huge ensemble cast with A: E. They approached the drawing board for the Multiverse saga with the assumption of duplicating the same box office success with the same tactic.

However, I thought the next huge ensemble cast would be composed with many X-Men actors, new FF actors, the Chrises Hemsworth and Evans (to tie-in the old and new group), and actors who made appearances along the way like Hailee Steinfeld, etc. I would have never guessed them returning Robert Downey, Jr. for any new role.

If I assumed correctly, A: D's massive casting was pre-planned seven years ago and that the studio believed throwing a ton of faces into the mix would work just as safely as the first time. I believe any desperation was thrown into the mix after the decision was made to ditch Majors and deciding which villain would replace Kang.
That definitely made them more desperate. As did their first taste(s) of failure with many of their projects, both TV and theatrical.

They made many bad choices in what they chose to develop and when that failed, they went running back to who and what they know. With huge bags of cash in their hands.
 
I have that same feeling.

It certainly reeks of desperation and going back to the well.
I read a story online that claims the film is about

Doom taking revenge and going after all the multi-verse movies. X-Men from ending of Days of Future Past when Wolverine wakes back up. Whatever world was created by Capt America going back in time to grow old with his woman. Whatever was created by all 3 Spider-Mans and their villains joining together. Deadpool messing up just about everything. And so on....

If true, that does sound sort of brilliant. Almost playing with the whole multi-universe mess and how many have screwed it up both in the real and fictional worlds.

But I've also seen a few of the Youtube predictions which sound much more boring.
 
https://variety.com/2026/film/box-o...-new-day-box-office-sixth-weekend-1236852435/

Box Office: ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ Remains No. 1 in Sixth Weekend, Nears ‘Avengers: Endgame’ All-Time Domestic Record​


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