Might be Dak's most important season yet

[Blitzen]

That is not great value. It is a wasted pick on a team trying to be competitive.

There's no point in worrying about getting a QB until you're ready to move on from Dak.

Aaron Rodgers seemed to work out with Brett Favre still going. Then Jordan Love seems just fine if they can keep good weapons on the field. QB’s that are not elite but can play solid ball with great supporting casts are a dime a dozen. Most QB’s get next to zero support and are deemed bust when their squads fail-though it’s a team wide issue. That’s why Darnold and Mayfield and Goff and etc can look completely terrible with one squad and then get to the correct situation and thrive. This team’s offense is the same-the front office over invests (offensive line, elite receivers) in both draft and cash capital to make sure the offense scores lots of points. Then they do a year of over investing in defense to try to hit the lotto-maybe it will work this season.

 

[LouBrown]

Aaron Rodgers seemed to work out with Brett Favre still going. Then Jordan Love seems just fine if they can keep good weapons on the field. QB’s that are not elite but can play solid ball with great supporting casts are a dime a dozen. Most QB’s get next to zero support and are deemed bust when their squads fail-though it’s a team wide issue. That’s why Darnold and Mayfield and Goff and etc can look completely terrible with one squad and then get to the correct situation and thrive. This team’s offense is the same-the front office over invests (offensive line, elite receivers) in both draft and cash capital to make sure the offense scores lots of points. Then they do a year of over investing in defense to try to hit the lotto-maybe it will work this season.

Cool.

They were dumb picks because they didn't provide immediate help to the teams they were drafted to.

 

[LouBrown]

I mean, I don't think it's dumb for the Rams. Stafford is probably in his last season or two. I get what they did it. I'm not trying to repeat the argument, but I mean, at the same time, it's not dumb for the Rams to do it because of Stafford's age and health. There were legit questions if he was going to continue. If they win the SB again this year, he probably retires after this season, so, the Rams decided to try to get a successor in the building to prepare for that, or if he does so the year after next with his age. It's smart imo.

Yes, for the 100th time, I get your point.

Making your team worse in 2026 for a 50-50 shot to be better in 2028 is dumb to me.

I don't understand why you guys all keep repeating the same thing without any actual data to back it up.

 

[Blitzen]

No, they were bad.

No, they were meh. Baltimore was 9-7 and offense was 9th overall in scoring the year before Jackson was drafted. Chiefs were 11-5 and also 9th in overall scoring the year before Mahomes was drafted (and better that next season before moving on from Smith). Favre used retirement as contract leverage and they figured with him being 35 and Rodgers dropping unexpectedly to pull the trigger.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

No, they were meh. Baltimore was 9-7 and offense was 9th overall in scoring the year before Jackson was drafted. Chiefs were 11-5 and also 9th in overall scoring the year before Mahomes was drafted (and better that next season before moving on from Smith). Favre used retirement as contract leverage and they figured with him being 35 and Rodgers dropping unexpectedly to pull the trigger.

Thank you!!!!

 

[Blitzen]

Cool.

They were dumb picks because they didn't provide immediate help to the teams they were drafted to.

That’s what planning for the future is. Teams selling out for one season fail way more often than they pay off. And it’s “dumb” since not only did it not work but set the team up for failure in multiple successive seasons. The boom or bust strategy. Seattle played a super conservative strategy and it finally paid dividends last year.

 

[LouBrown]

No, they were meh. Baltimore was 9-7 and offense was 9th overall in scoring the year before Jackson was drafted. Chiefs were 11-5 and also 9th in overall scoring the year before Mahomes was drafted (and better that next season before moving on from Smith). Favre used retirement as contract leverage and they figured with him being 35 and Rodgers dropping unexpectedly to pull the trigger.

Meh is bad.

 

[Catpappy]

Go out and beat the good teams. You have no excuses.

 

[LouBrown]

That’s what planning for the future is. Teams selling out for one season fail way more often than they pay off. And it’s “dumb” since not only did it not work but set the team up for failure in multiple successive seasons. The boom or bust strategy. Seattle played a super conservative strategy and it finally paid dividends last year.

You can plan for the future without mortgaging the present.

Seattle didn't do anything conservatively. Neither did the Rams, Eagles, or Bucs idk what you're talking about.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

2015: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota,
2016: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch
2017: Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson,
2018: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson
2019: Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins,
2020: Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love
2021: Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones
2022: Kenny Pickett
2023: Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson
2024: Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye, Michael Penix
2025: Cam Ward

34 first-round QBs since 2015. 16 of them have hit for the team that drafted them.

There is just no point in drafting a lottery ticket while simultaneously shorthanding a competitive roster.

According to the math and logic.....it's 50/50 weather a starting rookie qb flops or not.

I'd say it's a wash.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

lol...I don't know why that blueblood cat posts such long posts? I guess he does not know that maybe one or two posters will read all that crap!

It's because he talks instead of typing. If he typed it wouldn't (be) long (and) unreadable.

I asked ahile back if he could shorten up some so we would read it. He said he didn't care if anyone read it or not.

Imagine sitting at the bar or game while he finishes his thoughts!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What are you talking about??

Because I didn't know what YOU were "talking about".

So why did you give him 2 facepalms? You never said why...so I assume it didn't make sense to you (I don't know...I didn't read it)...or

It was too long too read. (AGREED!)

Not sure where your confusion is.

 

[G2]

Maybe, but it the defense that needs to show up and not be the absolute worst defense.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Because I didn't know what YOU were "talking about".

So why did you give him 2 facepalms? You never said why...so I assume it didn't make sense to you (I don't know...I didn't read it)...or

It was too long too read. (AGREED!)

Not sure where your confusion is.

Yeah confused it wasn't longer lol

 

[Blitzen]

You can plan for the future without mortgaging the present.

Seattle didn't do anything conservatively. Neither did the Rams, Eagles, or Bucs idk what you're talking about.

I mean they did not trade tons of first round or second round picks for established veterans and then pay big contracts (or to move way up the draft for one player). They mostly picked up free agents and drafted and moved on from their franchise QB getting several first round picks to “plan” for their future with only Geno Smith waiting to take over who did meh and they moved on again. Their journey was not the “getting the band back together” which is the current model in Dallas. Drafting a first round QB with plans to sit him and develop has proven track record. Many QB’s benefited greatly by never or barely getting gametime their first season. That is a conservative move compared to drafting a new QB and aggressively throwing them onto the field their first season. It’s not like they should do it continuously. One first round pick can bust as we have seen recently with Taco, Mazi, who knows about Guyton. If the front office and scouts all think a QB is by far the best player available at the first round pick-I would agree it’s the best move at this stage of your aging QB’s career.