There was one thing I noticed on defence that I liked

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I understand that this week, we are going to be calling out the defence, and rightly so with how poor the defence was. Let's be fair and objective here. 1. A horrible defence isn't going to go from record breaking in a bad way to the Doomsday D in one game. That's unrealistic. I already litigated part of the issue from the game in a previous post, so I will not do so here. 2. That load of Ricard and Skatabo is going to be a problem for more teams than us. I'm curious how the Rams handle that, especially sans Myles Garrett.

However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered). To me, those are decent building blocks. To me, I like that the players were trying to attack the ball. I'd love them to stuff the run in the backfield and focus on that, but, I don't think I saw them attacking the ball last season like I saw last night. I think on another game, more of those fumbles would go our way. I also thought we got a bit unlucky to not pick off the one where Nabers fell. I also thought we were incredibly unlucky with where the ball wound up after Downs clobbered Dart. That's one that, on another night, we probably intercept.

So, while there's rightfully a lot of negativity towards the way the defence looked, I do think they got a little unlucky with some of the bounces on the fumbles/loose balls, and I do want, as a fan, to encourage the team to keep attacking the ball. We don't need them to become the Doomsday D yet. We just need them to attack the ball and get in position to recover the ball when the ball pops loose. And I hope we send more blitzes with Downs. That hit on Dart was beautiful. We need to do that more.
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I understand that this week, we are going to be calling out the defence, and rightly so with how poor the defence was. Let's be fair and objective here. 1. A horrible defence isn't going to go from record breaking in a bad way to the Doomsday D in one game. That's unrealistic. I already litigated part of the issue from the game in a previous post, so I will not do so here. 2. That load of Ricard and Skatabo is going to be a problem for more teams than us. I'm curious how the Rams handle that, especially sans Myles Garrett.

However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered). To me, those are decent building blocks. To me, I like that the players were trying to attack the ball. I'd love them to stuff the run in the backfield and focus on that, but, I don't think I saw them attacking the ball last season like I saw last night. I think on another game, more of those fumbles would go our way. I also thought we got a bit unlucky to not pick off the one where Nabers fell. I also thought we were incredibly unlucky with where the ball wound up after Downs clobbered Dart. That's one that, on another night, we probably intercept.

So, while there's rightfully a lot of negativity towards the way the defence looked, I do think they got a little unlucky with some of the bounces on the fumbles/loose balls, and I do want, as a fan, to encourage the team to keep attacking the ball. We don't need them to become the Doomsday D yet. We just need them to attack the ball and get in position to recover the ball when the ball pops loose. And I hope we send more blitzes with Downs. That hit on Dart was beautiful. We need to do that more.
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You're not in the UK anymore Dorothy...

I think the Cowboys played defence while the Giants played defense...
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I understand that this week, we are going to be calling out the defence, and rightly so with how poor the defence was. Let's be fair and objective here. 1. A horrible defence isn't going to go from record breaking in a bad way to the Doomsday D in one game. That's unrealistic. I already litigated part of the issue from the game in a previous post, so I will not do so here. 2. That load of Ricard and Skatabo is going to be a problem for more teams than us. I'm curious how the Rams handle that, especially sans Myles Garrett.

However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered). To me, those are decent building blocks. To me, I like that the players were trying to attack the ball. I'd love them to stuff the run in the backfield and focus on that, but, I don't think I saw them attacking the ball last season like I saw last night. I think on another game, more of those fumbles would go our way. I also thought we got a bit unlucky to not pick off the one where Nabers fell. I also thought we were incredibly unlucky with where the ball wound up after Downs clobbered Dart. That's one that, on another night, we probably intercept.

So, while there's rightfully a lot of negativity towards the way the defence looked, I do think they got a little unlucky with some of the bounces on the fumbles/loose balls, and I do want, as a fan, to encourage the team to keep attacking the ball. We don't need them to become the Doomsday D yet. We just need them to attack the ball and get in position to recover the ball when the ball pops loose. And I hope we send more blitzes with Downs. That hit on Dart was beautiful. We need to do that more.
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I think Scott only got like 89 yards, combine we got slammed for 122 I think
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered).
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I agree! That’s definitely something positive to take from the game. For all the problems the defense had, they were around the ball and created multiple opportunities for turnovers. Three forced fumbles and a couple of near interceptions suggests the guys were at least making some plays instead of just getting completely dominated.

Obviously, turnovers alone don't fix the problems we saw, especially giving up way too many third-down conversions. But if they can clean up the communication and tackling while continuing to create that kind of pressure on the ball, the defense has something to build on.

You have to find the little positives after a game like that. :thumbup:
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I understand that this week, we are going to be calling out the defence, and rightly so with how poor the defence was. Let's be fair and objective here. 1. A horrible defence isn't going to go from record breaking in a bad way to the Doomsday D in one game. That's unrealistic. I already litigated part of the issue from the game in a previous post, so I will not do so here. 2. That load of Ricard and Skatabo is going to be a problem for more teams than us. I'm curious how the Rams handle that, especially sans Myles Garrett.

However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered). To me, those are decent building blocks. To me, I like that the players were trying to attack the ball. I'd love them to stuff the run in the backfield and focus on that, but, I don't think I saw them attacking the ball last season like I saw last night. I think on another game, more of those fumbles would go our way. I also thought we got a bit unlucky to not pick off the one where Nabers fell. I also thought we were incredibly unlucky with where the ball wound up after Downs clobbered Dart. That's one that, on another night, we probably intercept.

So, while there's rightfully a lot of negativity towards the way the defence looked, I do think they got a little unlucky with some of the bounces on the fumbles/loose balls, and I do want, as a fan, to encourage the team to keep attacking the ball. We don't need them to become the Doomsday D yet. We just need them to attack the ball and get in position to recover the ball when the ball pops loose. And I hope we send more blitzes with Downs. That hit on Dart was beautiful. We need to do that more.
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You are not allowed to like anything on the Monday after a loss...CZ rules...
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I understand that this week, we are going to be calling out the defence, and rightly so with how poor the defence was. Let's be fair and objective here. 1. A horrible defence isn't going to go from record breaking in a bad way to the Doomsday D in one game. That's unrealistic. I already litigated part of the issue from the game in a previous post, so I will not do so here. 2. That load of Ricard and Skatabo is going to be a problem for more teams than us. I'm curious how the Rams handle that, especially sans Myles Garrett.

However, there was ONE thing I noticed on our defence that I liked, and I don't think it's been highlighted by others yet. Consider it a tiny diamond in a whole load of rough, and my attempt at pulling something positive from last night. I noticed that we forced at least 3 fumbles and nearly had a pick or two (with one fumble being recovered). To me, those are decent building blocks. To me, I like that the players were trying to attack the ball. I'd love them to stuff the run in the backfield and focus on that, but, I don't think I saw them attacking the ball last season like I saw last night. I think on another game, more of those fumbles would go our way. I also thought we got a bit unlucky to not pick off the one where Nabers fell. I also thought we were incredibly unlucky with where the ball wound up after Downs clobbered Dart. That's one that, on another night, we probably intercept.

So, while there's rightfully a lot of negativity towards the way the defence looked, I do think they got a little unlucky with some of the bounces on the fumbles/loose balls, and I do want, as a fan, to encourage the team to keep attacking the ball. We don't need them to become the Doomsday D yet. We just need them to attack the ball and get in position to recover the ball when the ball pops loose. And I hope we send more blitzes with Downs. That hit on Dart was beautiful. We need to do that more.
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I believe that is the point of this defense. It is to attack and create turnovers and dictate what the offense can do. You are right this is a bright spot. The problem is it isn't working as designed due to not enough pass rush and we are not playing the zone coverages very well. We improve that things might be different. If we don't then it is going to be another long year.
 
big dog cowboy said:
I agree! That’s definitely something positive to take from the game. For all the problems the defense had, they were around the ball and created multiple opportunities for turnovers. Three forced fumbles and a couple of near interceptions suggests the guys were at least making some plays instead of just getting completely dominated.

Obviously, turnovers alone don't fix the problems we saw, especially giving up way too many third-down conversions. But if they can clean up the communication and tackling while continuing to create that kind of pressure on the ball, the defense has something to build on.

You have to find the little positives after a game like that. :thumbup:
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Well, and I remember that, under Quinn, we kinda relied on takeaways at first to have a chance. The quickest way to improve the D is to force takeaways. Those, more than anything else, will help them to believe that they can become a good unit. To me, they didn't look lost, unlike with Eberflus. They just weren't physical enough, and I think the use of Zone was a bad move. Hopefully we will see more man blitzes. I think that'll play much more adequately to our unit.
 
Xizor said:
I believe that is the point of this defense. It is to attack and create turnovers and dictate what the offense can do. You are right this is a bright spot. The problem is it isn't working as designed due to not enough pass rush and we are not playing the zone coverages very well. We improve that things might be different. If we don't then it is going to be another long year.
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I think the pressure will come. I expect that Parker will probably send more blitzes. I think he may have found how good of a blitzer we have with Downs. I also think Barham had a good pressure/run stop. I expect to see them draw up more blitzes. I think, if they can do that, we can force more takeaways.

xwalker said:
You are not allowed to like anything on the Monday after a loss...CZ rules
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Screw the rules, I'm a furry lol
 
Blackspider214 said:
False, a turnover only counts if you actually secure it. We only forced one turnover. We knocked the ball out 3 other times but didn't come away with it.
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Still, the point remains, that's one improvement I noticed over last year. We seem to be attacking the ball. Hopefully, next week, we get a few more to bounce our way.
 
big dog cowboy said:
I agree! That’s definitely something positive to take from the game. For all the problems the defense had, they were around the ball and created multiple opportunities for turnovers. Three forced fumbles and a couple of near interceptions suggests the guys were at least making some plays instead of just getting completely dominated.

Obviously, turnovers alone don't fix the problems we saw, especially giving up way too many third-down conversions. But if they can clean up the communication and tackling while continuing to create that kind of pressure on the ball, the defense has something to build on.

You have to find the little positives after a game like that. :thumbup:
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Quinnen hustling and forcing that fumble was the highlight for me.

Robert Salahs impression is still rooted in him
 
Barham!!! I thought he was going to pick that guy up and slam him. Wish the rest of the defense would play with his intensity. Hammer just needs to slow down and not go full speed all thee time.
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I think the pressure will come. I expect that Parker will probably send more blitzes. I think he may have found how good of a blitzer we have with Downs. I also think Barham had a good pressure/run stop. I expect to see them draw up more blitzes. I think, if they can do that, we can force more takeaways.




Screw the rules, I'm a furry lol
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Barham while seems to get to the right spots, I wasn't impressed with his enthusiam. He seemed to be jogging quite a bit before the play was over. He needs to move quicker IMO.
 
NY ran the ball because they knew they could.

WASH will run the ball top protect Daniels coming off an injury and they will destroy this Def too.

There is no brightside here, because in Week 3, we face King Henry. How does 0-3 affect that brightside?
 
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