Dak is a greater QB than Aikman?

Bullflop · Sep 23, 2026

Those making such comments are simply making comments to garner attention to themselves. Aikman and those like him should be relegated to the very top of the best QBs in the history of the league. Such comments are indicative of simple, wannabe reporters. It's a desperate effort, at best.

Ring Leader · Sep 23, 2026

Hardline said:
Isn't a speakeasy a 1920s gin joint that served hooch during the prohibition period?

+1 for the term 'hooch".

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

RS12 said:
If he was 5 foot 6 and had an arm like a girl he probably wouldnt either. What is your point? I know those 3 rings are a minor inconvenient fact for some of you Dak slobberers but guess what....they hsppened. If my aunt had a package...like I said..the insanity

Minus the rings Troy has the weakest stats in the HOF.

Ring Leader · Sep 23, 2026

Yobwocs said:
A lot more parity now, but Dak is a Super Bowl away from going ahead of Aikman.

He might come close to doubling Romo and Aikman in yards and touchdowns....those stats and records are gonna be used heavily in general GOAT arguments like them or not.

But yes, I get Troy was astonishing in those 2 SF games in 1992 and 1993, namely the first one. Those are coincidentally the games that drag Daks name down. And yes, I get that the 90s was a rougher period to play the position.

I'm not fluent in new math, but in what universe is 1 > 3 ?

RS12 · Sep 23, 2026

Chasing6 said:
Minus the rings Troy has the weakest stats in the HOF.

Uh Joe Namath? Stop man you are making a fool of yourself. Your agenda is obvious and incredibly weak.

Tabascocat · Sep 23, 2026

Anyone who says Dak is better did not watch Aikman’s career….or playoffs. He didn’t have to rack up stats with Emmitt there but he sure could have if that was the desire. His leadership alone is miles above Dak’s too.

Yobwocs · Sep 23, 2026

Ring Leader said:
I'm not fluent in new math, but in what universe is 1 > 3 ?

In the world that Marino 0 > Griese 2. It's possible they go with the stats and records guy over the guy with a few more rings.

Just saying that's how people evaluate those things. Not saying that's necessarily gonna happen, or that Dak is even gonna get to that one Super Bowl, which I think is the minimum he has to get to to even get into the Top 30 all time.

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

RS12 said:
Uh Joe Namath? Stop man you are making a fool of yourself. Your agenda is obvious and incredibly weak.

His stats for his era are not good. Average at best.

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

RS12 said:
Uh Joe Namath? Stop man you are making a fool of yourself. Your agenda is obvious and incredibly weak.

His stats for his era are not good. Average at best.

Cowboy89 · Sep 23, 2026

Tony was a gunslinger. How would that work out for the Cowboys against those great 49er teams in 92/93? It wouldn't. I'm more confident Dak would win with them than Romo.

Aikman had a loaded team. Correct. But it was in an era where defenses could obliterate the QB without consequences. He still had to actually make great throws.

erod · Sep 23, 2026

Romo is the best passer of anyone who's ever played here. Made all the throws look easy.

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

Cowboy89 said:
Tony was a gunslinger. How would that work out for the Cowboys against those great 49er teams in 92/93? It wouldn't. I'm more confident Dak would win with them than Romo.

Aikman had a loaded team. Correct. But it was in an era where defenses could obluterate the QB without consequences. He still had to actually make pinpoint throws.

No one needs a gun slinger with Emmitt Smith and 8 players in the box.

Cowboy89 · Sep 23, 2026

Chasing6 said:
No one needs a gun slinger with Emmitt Smith and 8 players in the box.

Romo was mistake prone. He would have messed up a few times. He always did.

erod · Sep 23, 2026

Cowboy89 said:
Tony was a gunslinger. How would that work out for the Cowboys against those great 49er teams in 92/93? It wouldn't. I'm more confident Dak would win with them than Romo.

Aikman had a loaded team. Correct. But it was in an era where defenses could obliterate the QB without consequences. He still had to actually make pinpoint throws. Might be the most accurate QB in NFL history.

I saw every game Troy played, and he was far from pinpoint. He threw slants and outs very well. Everything else was iffy.

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

Cowboy89 said:
Romo was mistake prone. He would have messed up a few times. He always did.

When you Defense gives up 30 a game you have to sling it. Go see how much Troy's defense gave up.

Bagman · Sep 23, 2026

Who's better has it's questions but there's one thing we're all certain of. Troy had much, much better coaching than Dak ever dreamed of.

Chasing6 · Sep 23, 2026

The Dallas Cowboys averaged 21.3 points per game in the games started by Troy Aikman during his 12-year NFL career.

So just imagine how much our Defense gave up.

And he had the all-time leading NFL rusher. It must have been very difficult for him to score 21.3 points per game.

pansophy · Sep 23, 2026

Aikman was the perfect QB for the era he played in where WR's were getting mauled by the defense and hyper accurate passes made a big difference. He also had very little improv ability and he would have been destroyed behind the lines Romo played with. People forget that was getting booed in the years before he retired when the OL went to crap and we couldn't run or pass block consistently.

All things being equal I'd take Staubach >> Romo >> Aikman >> Dak for this reason, but if you told me we would have a baller OL consistently I'd take Aikman over Romo.

People are going to freak out, but even Aikman is on record saying he thought Romo was better than him. Some data at the bottom to back this up. TLDR it is an attempt to adjust QB rating for player era by converting passer rating stats to a z-score for every season, get a career z-score, and then convert it back to a passer rating based on 2025 metrics.

P.S. Dak is 38-13 outside of the NFC East when the defense gives up 24 points or fewer. Rings are a team stat and not a way to evaluate a QB.

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Year-Adjusted Career QB Passer Rating — Top 100 (through 2025)
Regular season only. Each QB season is compared with other QBs in that season. Seasons require 50+ attempts; careers require 1,000+ attempts in qualifying seasons. The adjusted rating is on the 2025 scale, not raw career passer rating.


Rank Quarterback 2025-Adjusted Rating Attempts Seasons
1 Steve Young 105.2 4,149 15
2 Otto Graham 104.7 1,565 6
3 Brock Purdy 104.5 1,353 4
4 Joe Montana 104.2 5,347 13
5 Aaron Rodgers 103.9 8,683 17
6 Roger Staubach 102.8 2,891 9
7 Peyton Manning 102.1 9,380 17
8 Drew Brees 102.1 10,524 19
9 Tom Brady 101.2 12,036 21
10 Bob Griese 100.8 2,491 11
11 Tony Romo 100.4 4,331 10
12 Norm Van Brocklin 99.8 2,895 12
13 Bob Berry 99.6 1,049 5
14 Patrick Mahomes 99.3 4,638 8
15 Sid Luckman 99.1 1,707 11
16 Kurt Warner 99.1 4,059 11
17 Lamar Jackson 99.0 2,888 8
18 Ken Anderson 98.9 4,420 14
19 Joe Burrow 98.8 2,806 6
20 Dan Marino 98.6 8,358 17
21 Fran Tarkenton 98.4 6,467 18
22 Russell Wilson 98.4 6,120 14
23 Sonny Jurgensen 98.2 4,163 14
24 Danny White 97.7 2,805 8
25 Sammy Baugh 97.1 2,962 15
26 Len Dawson 97.0 1,344 6
27 Bart Starr 96.9 3,060 14
28 Philip Rivers 96.9 8,196 16
29 Dak Prescott 96.7 4,759 10
30 Jim Kelly 96.6 4,779 11
31 Jimmy Garoppolo 96.4 1,864 8
32 Dave Krieg 96.3 5,286 16
33 Dan Fouts 96.0 5,604 15
34 Ben Roethlisberger 95.9 8,443 18
35 Greg Landry 95.9 2,156 11
36 Brett Favre 95.6 10,165 19
37 Johnny Unitas 95.5 5,154 17
38 Justin Herbert 95.5 3,438 6
39 Matt Ryan 95.5 8,464 15
40 Jeff Garcia 95.3 3,676 10
41 Y.A. Tittle 95.2 3,817 15
42 Tommy Thompson 95.0 1,368 7
43 Tua Tagovailoa 95.0 2,421 6
44 Chad Pennington 94.6 2,444 8
45 Mark Brunell 94.5 4,567 12
46 Bernie Kosar 94.4 3,321 10
47 Jared Goff 94.3 5,224 10
48 Kirk Cousins 94.2 5,851 13
49 Neil Lomax 94.1 3,153 8
50 Craig Morton 94.0 3,667 14
51 Matthew Stafford 93.8 8,763 17
52 Billy Wade 93.8 2,437 10
53 Billy Kilmer 93.8 2,861 11
54 Rich Gannon 93.7 4,174 13
55 Frank Ryan 93.7 2,114 10
56 Pat Haden 93.7 1,322 5
57 Charlie Conerly 93.5 2,833 14
58 Deshaun Watson 93.5 2,305 7
59 Roman Gabriel 93.3 4,495 15
60 Phil Simms 93.2 4,634 13
61 Joe Theismann 93.2 3,569 10
62 C.J. Stroud 93.1 1,454 3
63 Donovan McNabb 93.1 5,374 13
64 Marc Bulger 93.0 3,171 8
65 Boomer Esiason 93.0 5,205 14
66 Troy Aikman 93.0 4,715 12
67 Arnie Herber 93.0 1,175 11
68 Josh Allen 92.9 4,088 8
69 Jim McMahon 92.9 2,473 10
70 Steve McNair 92.9 4,544 13
71 Ken Stabler 92.8 3,738 13
72 Bill Nelsen 92.8 1,830 7
73 Warren Moon 92.8 6,786 15
74 Charlie Batch 92.6 1,449 6
75 Derek Carr 92.6 5,785 11
76 David Garrard 92.5 2,223 7
77 Jalen Hurts 92.4 2,393 6
78 Shaun Hill 92.3 1,167 5
79 Carson Palmer 92.3 6,307 14
80 Ryan Tannehill 92.1 4,764 11
81 Matt Schaub 92.1 3,301 11
82 Neil O'Donnell 91.8 3,197 11
83 John Elway 91.8 7,250 16
84 Bill Munson 91.7 1,781 9
85 Ken O'Brien 91.7 3,602 10
86 Elvis Grbac 91.5 2,445 8
87 Jeff Hostetler 91.5 2,270 8
88 Brad Johnson 91.4 4,242 12
89 Jeff George 91.2 3,925 11
90 Brian Griese 90.9 2,761 9
91 Kyler Murray 90.9 2,941 7
92 Bert Jones 90.6 2,509 9
93 Daunte Culpepper 90.6 3,199 10
94 Jordan Love 90.6 1,505 4
95 Bob Waterfield 90.6 1,617 8
96 Wade Wilson 90.5 2,320 12
97 Bobby Thomason 90.5 1,334 7
98 John Brodie 90.4 4,470 16
99 Trent Green 90.3 3,739 10
100 Teddy Bridgewater 90.2 2,042 6

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 23, 2026

Aerolithe_Lion said:
This is at the heart of most of these comparisons

If Troy Aikman was drafted by the 1989 Seahawks, his career would have been completely unremarkable. If Dak Prescott was a Cardinal, he wouldn’t have made it to his third contract. And if Tony Romo was a Dolphin he never gets his big break and likely is a career backup

Can Dak hand the ball off to Emmitt 30 times and throw a few 50/50 balls to Irvin while beating the bills by 40? Probably

I agree. All of these guys are talented. It’s more about opportunity and where you are drafted.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 23, 2026

Cowboy89 said:
Tony was a gunslinger. How would that work out for the Cowboys against those great 49er teams in 92/93? It wouldn't. I'm more confident Dak would win with them than Romo.

Aikman had a loaded team. Correct. But it was in an era where defenses could obliterate the QB without consequences. He still had to actually make great throws.

Great points.

Rank	Quarterback	2025-Adjusted Rating	Attempts	Seasons
1	Steve Young	105.2	4,149	15
2	Otto Graham	104.7	1,565	6
3	Brock Purdy	104.5	1,353	4
4	Joe Montana	104.2	5,347	13
5	Aaron Rodgers	103.9	8,683	17
6	Roger Staubach	102.8	2,891	9
7	Peyton Manning	102.1	9,380	17
8	Drew Brees	102.1	10,524	19
9	Tom Brady	101.2	12,036	21
10	Bob Griese	100.8	2,491	11
11	Tony Romo	100.4	4,331	10
12	Norm Van Brocklin	99.8	2,895	12
13	Bob Berry	99.6	1,049	5
14	Patrick Mahomes	99.3	4,638	8
15	Sid Luckman	99.1	1,707	11
16	Kurt Warner	99.1	4,059	11
17	Lamar Jackson	99.0	2,888	8
18	Ken Anderson	98.9	4,420	14
19	Joe Burrow	98.8	2,806	6
20	Dan Marino	98.6	8,358	17
21	Fran Tarkenton	98.4	6,467	18
22	Russell Wilson	98.4	6,120	14
23	Sonny Jurgensen	98.2	4,163	14
24	Danny White	97.7	2,805	8
25	Sammy Baugh	97.1	2,962	15
26	Len Dawson	97.0	1,344	6
27	Bart Starr	96.9	3,060	14
28	Philip Rivers	96.9	8,196	16
29	Dak Prescott	96.7	4,759	10
30	Jim Kelly	96.6	4,779	11
31	Jimmy Garoppolo	96.4	1,864	8
32	Dave Krieg	96.3	5,286	16
33	Dan Fouts	96.0	5,604	15
34	Ben Roethlisberger	95.9	8,443	18
35	Greg Landry	95.9	2,156	11
36	Brett Favre	95.6	10,165	19
37	Johnny Unitas	95.5	5,154	17
38	Justin Herbert	95.5	3,438	6
39	Matt Ryan	95.5	8,464	15
40	Jeff Garcia	95.3	3,676	10
41	Y.A. Tittle	95.2	3,817	15
42	Tommy Thompson	95.0	1,368	7
43	Tua Tagovailoa	95.0	2,421	6
44	Chad Pennington	94.6	2,444	8
45	Mark Brunell	94.5	4,567	12
46	Bernie Kosar	94.4	3,321	10
47	Jared Goff	94.3	5,224	10
48	Kirk Cousins	94.2	5,851	13
49	Neil Lomax	94.1	3,153	8
50	Craig Morton	94.0	3,667	14
51	Matthew Stafford	93.8	8,763	17
52	Billy Wade	93.8	2,437	10
53	Billy Kilmer	93.8	2,861	11
54	Rich Gannon	93.7	4,174	13
55	Frank Ryan	93.7	2,114	10
56	Pat Haden	93.7	1,322	5
57	Charlie Conerly	93.5	2,833	14
58	Deshaun Watson	93.5	2,305	7
59	Roman Gabriel	93.3	4,495	15
60	Phil Simms	93.2	4,634	13
61	Joe Theismann	93.2	3,569	10
62	C.J. Stroud	93.1	1,454	3
63	Donovan McNabb	93.1	5,374	13
64	Marc Bulger	93.0	3,171	8
65	Boomer Esiason	93.0	5,205	14
66	Troy Aikman	93.0	4,715	12
67	Arnie Herber	93.0	1,175	11
68	Josh Allen	92.9	4,088	8
69	Jim McMahon	92.9	2,473	10
70	Steve McNair	92.9	4,544	13
71	Ken Stabler	92.8	3,738	13
72	Bill Nelsen	92.8	1,830	7
73	Warren Moon	92.8	6,786	15
74	Charlie Batch	92.6	1,449	6
75	Derek Carr	92.6	5,785	11
76	David Garrard	92.5	2,223	7
77	Jalen Hurts	92.4	2,393	6
78	Shaun Hill	92.3	1,167	5
79	Carson Palmer	92.3	6,307	14
80	Ryan Tannehill	92.1	4,764	11
81	Matt Schaub	92.1	3,301	11
82	Neil O'Donnell	91.8	3,197	11
83	John Elway	91.8	7,250	16
84	Bill Munson	91.7	1,781	9
85	Ken O'Brien	91.7	3,602	10
86	Elvis Grbac	91.5	2,445	8
87	Jeff Hostetler	91.5	2,270	8
88	Brad Johnson	91.4	4,242	12
89	Jeff George	91.2	3,925	11
90	Brian Griese	90.9	2,761	9
91	Kyler Murray	90.9	2,941	7
92	Bert Jones	90.6	2,509	9
93	Daunte Culpepper	90.6	3,199	10
94	Jordan Love	90.6	1,505	4
95	Bob Waterfield	90.6	1,617	8
96	Wade Wilson	90.5	2,320	12
97	Bobby Thomason	90.5	1,334	7
98	John Brodie	90.4	4,470	16
99	Trent Green	90.3	3,739	10
100	Teddy Bridgewater	90.2	2,042	6

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