I see no value in the Cowboys drafting OG in 1st round

[LouBrown]

I think you need to do more research on the player. If he's a rotational player, as you say, why does he get a billion snaps?

I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, unless you become disagreeable.

Carry On.

Ok fine he's rotational-quality.

The point is that he's not a difference-making player.

 

[ratkinson]

Ok fine he's rotational-quality.

The point is that he's not a difference-making player.

LB, the point is i never said he was.

 

[LouBrown]

LB, the point is i never said he was.

Then I have no idea what your point is. He doesn't "stink?" Ok.

 

[ratkinson]

Then I have no idea what your point is. He doesn't "stink?" Ok.

I learned a valuable lesson today...never again.

 

[Nova]

I think having your identity revolve around an elite OL is smart.

I don't have a problem with using high picks to do this, because we seem to hit on all of them, whereas later OL picks have produced poor return.

Inversely, Dallas has not been nearly as successful with high defensive picks.

So if you're trying to reliably build a good foundation through the draft, OL is the way to go for us.

The problem is they won't spend in FA to address the defensive pieces in turn.

 

[gtb1943]

I think having your identity revolve around an elite OL is smart.

I don't have a problem with using high picks to do this, because we seem to hit on all of them, whereas later OL picks have produced poor return.

Inversely, Dallas has not been nearly as successful with high defensive picks.

So if you're trying to reliably build a good foundation through the draft, OL is the way to go for us.

The problem is they won't spend in FA to address the defensive pieces in turn.

dead on. Jethro likes his shiny toys and they are almost always on O or skills players
Q is the first lineman that Jethro has brought in in a big trade or paid big money for since, well, maybe Bigg Davis? like 20 years ago.

 

[Rockport]

This is an organization problem. Is Tyler Smith better than TJ Bass? Yes. Is the drop off massive? No. At least not enough to continually draft these first round lineman year after year. Were the only team that does it, has it paid off? No.

Tyler Smith is a fine player but so is TJ Bass. And neither of them make a bigger impact than what Jalen Pitre, George Karlaftis, Devin Lloyd would have on our defense.(whom we passed on)

We should have learned. We had Zack Martin the best guard in football for over a decade and it did absolutely nothing for the overall team success. Sometimes I think that they’re afraid of drafting so they take the safest pick possible and OG. It’s probably the easiest position to find…good organization take impact players in the first round not a pro bowl guard. A pro bowl guard will not sack the QB, intercept a pass, or make a game changing tackle. These are all things the cowboys are and have been desperate for. Not another pro bowl guard.

Couldn’t read anymore after that.

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't favor drafting guards in the 1st, but there's a massive drop off from Smith to Bass.

 

[Sully]

This is an organization problem. Is Tyler Smith better than TJ Bass? Yes. Is the drop off massive? No. At least not enough to continually draft these first round lineman year after year. Were the only team that does it, has it paid off? No.

Tyler Smith is a fine player but so is TJ Bass. And neither of them make a bigger impact than what Jalen Pitre, George Karlaftis, Devin Lloyd would have on our defense.(whom we passed on)

We should have learned. We had Zack Martin the best guard in football for over a decade and it did absolutely nothing for the overall team success. Sometimes I think that they’re afraid of drafting so they take the safest pick possible and OG. It’s probably the easiest position to find…good organization take impact players in the first round not a pro bowl guard. A pro bowl guard will not sack the QB, intercept a pass, or make a game changing tackle. These are all things the cowboys are and have been desperate for. Not another pro bowl guard.

Well-- I see little value in what Dallas does in the draft for several seasons.

 

[cowboyec]

you do when they are the best player on the board.
you turn in that zack martin or tyler smith or tyler booker card and move on with your day.
smiling.

but we dont need a guard.
tackle.
or center maybe.
but our og spots are manned by tyler and tyler.
we good.

 

[YosemiteSam]

...can we draft a new GM?

 

[Robbieac]

...can we draft a new GM?

Nope.

You’ll keep your 84 year old GM and like it!

 

[Acceptablename]

This is an organization problem. Is Tyler Smith better than TJ Bass? Yes. Is the drop off massive? No. At least not enough to continually draft these first round lineman year after year. Were the only team that does it, has it paid off? No.

Tyler Smith is a fine player but so is TJ Bass. And neither of them make a bigger impact than what Jalen Pitre, George Karlaftis, Devin Lloyd would have on our defense.(whom we passed on)

We should have learned. We had Zack Martin the best guard in football for over a decade and it did absolutely nothing for the overall team success. Sometimes I think that they’re afraid of drafting so they take the safest pick possible and OG. It’s probably the easiest position to find…good organization take impact players in the first round not a pro bowl guard. A pro bowl guard will not sack the QB, intercept a pass, or make a game changing tackle. These are all things the cowboys are and have been desperate for. Not another pro bowl guard.

Safest pick when did that become a slander

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I rest my case. Tyler smith comes back tonight and the offense looks even worse. The offensive line was fine with Bass. The defense is another story. The cowboys way of building a franchise is a joke.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

This is an organization problem. Is Tyler Smith better than TJ Bass? Yes. Is the drop off massive? No. At least not enough to continually draft these first round lineman year after year. Were the only team that does it, has it paid off? No.

Tyler Smith is a fine player but so is TJ Bass. And neither of them make a bigger impact than what Jalen Pitre, George Karlaftis, Devin Lloyd would have on our defense.(whom we passed on)

We should have learned. We had Zack Martin the best guard in football for over a decade and it did absolutely nothing for the overall team success. Sometimes I think that they’re afraid of drafting so they take the safest pick possible and OG. It’s probably the easiest position to find…good organization take impact players in the first round not a pro bowl guard. A pro bowl guard will not sack the QB, intercept a pass, or make a game changing tackle. These are all things the cowboys are and have been desperate for. Not another pro bowl guard.

We’re chasing ghosts of Zack Martin and don’t recognize the relative value of positions. Could have a multiple EDGE players instead.

 

[gtb1943]

We’re chasing ghosts of Zack Martin and don’t recognize the relative value of positions. Could have a multiple EDGE players instead.

you go by your board
that is what all teams do
Booker looks like a guy who will do a job for you for ten years or more. That is a good pick
those people all wrapped up in value are the kind that never would build anything worth it

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

you go by your board
that is what all teams do
Booker looks like a guy who will do a job for you for ten years or more. That is a good pick
those people all wrapped up in value are the kind that never would build anything worth it

going by your board is a great philosophy, unless your board is also a problem

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

you go by your board
that is what all teams do
Booker looks like a guy who will do a job for you for ten years or more. That is a good pick
those people all wrapped up in value are the kind that never would build anything worth it

lol
Anyone could draft a good guard in the first round. No one is dumb enough to continually do it except the Cowboys.

 

[gtb1943]

lol
Anyone could draft a good guard in the first round. No one is dumb enough to continually do it except the Cowboys.

you build from the lines out
if we had done as good drafting DL as we have been OL this would be a much better team

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

you build from the lines out
if we had done as good drafting DL as we have been OL this would be a much better team

I think it’s been pretty obvious this team can’t draft DL.