What do you guys make of Church?

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With the D playing so poorly its really hard to guage safety play. He seems to make many plays but with the rest of the players looking terrible it makes it hard to evaluate his play.
 
He's playing poorly also. I think Wilcox is actually playing better.
 
Church is a pretty good tackler and is decent when he plays in the box.

But he is a liability in space. Doesn't have the range or speed to cover even average receivers. And is way too slow to play Monte Kiffen's system.
 
He's not the answer. But knowing Jerry and his history, he will crown him with a long-term contract because he loves these "diamond in the rough" players like Miles and Ratliff and it will continue to set us back.
 
Would have been a pro-bowl safety in the 80s or 90s. His type of safety is slowly becoming extinct in the NFL for all sorts of reasons.

It's too bad.
 
Church is a good run support safety with decent instincts, but no range in coverage.

His ceiling in today's NFL is a special teams stalwart and nickel LB.
 
Elaborate on that, if you dont mind.

He plays the position tremendously physical. Big hitter, great tackling ability, etc.

Before it became essentially illegal to hit WRs hard and try to dislodge the ball, safeties like Church were celebrated.

The problem with that is today's rules are forcing the safety position into essentially something closer to CBs. The ability to cover is paramount and I just don't see Church being able to line up against top RBs, TEs, or even occasional slot WRs.
 
I think he just has too much on his plate since he's the only "vet" they have. If they ever find a true FS I think he could be very solid.
 
He plays the position tremendously physical. Big hitter, great tackling ability, etc.

Before it became essentially illegal to hit WRs hard and try to dislodge the ball, safeties like Church were celebrated.

The problem with that is today's rules are forcing the safety position into essentially something closer to CBs. The ability to cover is paramount and I just don't see Church being able to line up against top RBs, TEs, or even occasional slot WRs.

ahh... makes sense. Thanks.
Perhaps even guys like Atwater and Lott wouldnt have as much success these days either.

Ya know, I had hopes Dallas would take Ray Ray Armstrong as a undrafed FA but he was picked up by the Rams and immediately converted to LB. This also makes more sense now.
 
I honestly feel its too hard to gauge him being he doesn't have a suitable safety next to him back there.......
 
With the D playing so poorly its really hard to guage safety play. He seems to make many plays but with the rest of the players looking terrible it makes it hard to evaluate his play.

Church to me is a good place to go and pray Garrett gets fired
 
He's not the answer at safety despite how bad the team and some fans want him to be.
 
Church to me is a good place to go and pray Garrett gets fired

touche'
Jokes on you though. Ive been sacrificing goats by the dozen to keep JG in his position.



He's not the answer at safety despite how bad the team and some fans want him to be.
I wouldnt say hes the answer either but hes pretty damn far down the list of problems at this point.
 

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