Honestly there are 12 guys on this roster I'd cut right now

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I wouldn't even let them get back on the train to Oxnard. I have a hard time believing this is the best the front office can find. Would certainly be turning the roster today

Aladenoye, Josh offenisive tackle was just abysmal last night.....there has to be a vet T out there better than this
Benford, Tim JAG
Bishop, Ken.......Has been a Cowboyzone favorite...Was nothing but a speed bump last night
Hanie, Caleb.....Was a deer in the headlights. Shocking to see from a 6 year vet
Heath, Jeff....a ton of missed tackles...but caused 1 fumble will get him more looks
Johnson, Matt.....Has he been glued back together yet?
Jones, Chris.....JAG w/ no hangtime
Lindsey, Corey...made it just in time to get toasted for 70 yard TD
Malena, Ben.....we are set @ RB. Just wasting a roster spot
Sapp, Dontavis....Might be the skinniest lber in recent memory
Smith, Ryan....Was horrible in the BCS championship...and the trend continued
Webb, B.W..... Another kid I had high hopes for thinking a year in the league would help...still just as clueless

All this talk about how well some of these guys were playing in camp like a Davon Coleman, Terrance Mitchell, Martez Wilson and Anthony Hitchens aren't far behind.

I'm really starting to have my doubts about players like Jeremy Mincey, Terrell McClain and Ben Bass...that we have been sold another lemon by the good old car salesman Jerry.

So disappointed in the 1st preseason loss. 27-7.

And let's not sugar coat this........It should have been 37-7....and maybe even worse if a couple of those interceptions hadn't been dropped that would have been pick 6's

It's one thing to get beat...but this team was once again not ready to play. Poor coaching decisions..(passing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2) Poor tackling. Defense can't get off blocks.

It just blows my mind that this team looked so poor....knowing what it's problems were...yet we looked worse than last season:confused:
 

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I wouldn't even let them get back on the train to Oxnard. I have a hard time believing this is the best the front office can find. Would certainly be turning the roster today

Aladenoye, Josh offenisive tackle was just abysmal last night.....there has to be a vet T out there better than this
Benford, Tim JAG
Bishop, Ken.......Has been a Cowboyzone favorite...Was nothing but a speed bump last night
Hanie, Caleb.....Was a deer in the headlights. Shocking to see from a 6 year vet
Heath, Jeff....a ton of missed tackles...but caused 1 fumble will get him more looks
Johnson, Matt.....Has he been glued back together yet?
Jones, Chris.....JAG w/ no hangtime
Lindsey, Corey...made it just in time to get toasted for 70 yard TD
Malena, Ben.....we are set @ RB. Just wasting a roster spot
Sapp, Dontavis....Might be the skinniest lber in recent memory
Smith, Ryan....Was horrible in the BCS championship...and the trend continued
Webb, B.W..... Another kid I had high hopes for thinking a year in the league would help...still just as clueless

All this talk about how well some of these guys were playing in camp like a Davon Coleman, Terrance Mitchell, Martez Wilson and Anthony Hitchens aren't far behind.

I'm really starting to have my doubts about players like Jeremy Mincey, Terrell McClain and Ben Bass...that we have been sold another lemon by the good old car salesman Jerry.

So disappointed in the 1st preseason loss. 27-7.

And let's not sugar coat this........It should have been 37-7....and maybe even worse if a couple of those interceptions hadn't been dropped that would have been pick 6's

It's one thing to get beat...but this team was once again not ready to play. Poor coaching decisions..(passing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2) Poor tackling. Defense can't get off blocks.

It just blows my mind that this team looked so poor....knowing what it's problems were...yet we looked worse than last season:confused:

Keep Bishop and R. Williams the rest can go!
 

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Prepare for a lot of this Cowboys fans

Where the hell are the Lbers? Davon Coleman is clueless as to where the ball is.........
 

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Davon Coleman began playing better as the game progressed. Nate Newton gave him a glowing on-camera review.

I had anticipated Terrance Mitchell would play better in this game. He was often in position but his coverage technique was poor.

If we do not improve our pass rush, hopefully we will concentrate on upgrading our run defense. We were gashed play after play. It is an embarrassment.
 

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Marinelli needs to instill some discipline but right now he probably is more interested in the non-starters showing him some rush. If you put starting DT in the game along with disciplined DEs you won't see that delayed handoff and run to daylight stuff as much.

They don't care about who won the game and neither should we. They want to look at the non-starters. Still I wouldn't want to be those guys in the film room.
 

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I wouldn't even let them get back on the train to Oxnard. I have a hard time believing this is the best the front office can find. Would certainly be turning the roster today

Aladenoye, Josh offenisive tackle was just abysmal last night.....there has to be a vet T out there better than this
Benford, Tim JAG
Bishop, Ken.......Has been a Cowboyzone favorite...Was nothing but a speed bump last night
Hanie, Caleb.....Was a deer in the headlights. Shocking to see from a 6 year vet
Heath, Jeff....a ton of missed tackles...but caused 1 fumble will get him more looks
Johnson, Matt.....Has he been glued back together yet?
Jones, Chris.....JAG w/ no hangtime
Lindsey, Corey...made it just in time to get toasted for 70 yard TD
Malena, Ben.....we are set @ RB. Just wasting a roster spot
Sapp, Dontavis....Might be the skinniest lber in recent memory
Smith, Ryan....Was horrible in the BCS championship...and the trend continued
Webb, B.W..... Another kid I had high hopes for thinking a year in the league would help...still just as clueless

All this talk about how well some of these guys were playing in camp like a Davon Coleman, Terrance Mitchell, Martez Wilson and Anthony Hitchens aren't far behind.

I'm really starting to have my doubts about players like Jeremy Mincey, Terrell McClain and Ben Bass...that we have been sold another lemon by the good old car salesman Jerry.

So disappointed in the 1st preseason loss. 27-7.

And let's not sugar coat this........It should have been 37-7....and maybe even worse if a couple of those interceptions hadn't been dropped that would have been pick 6's

It's one thing to get beat...but this team was once again not ready to play. Poor coaching decisions..(passing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2) Poor tackling. Defense can't get off blocks.

It just blows my mind that this team looked so poor....knowing what it's problems were...yet we looked worse than last season:confused:

It's a process.
 

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Marinelli needs to instill some discipline but right now he probably is more interested in the non-starters showing him some rush. If you put starting DT in the game along with disciplined DEs you won't see that delayed handoff and run to daylight stuff as much.

They don't care about who won the game and neither should we. They want to look at the non-starters. Still I wouldn't want to be those guys in the film room.
Anyone can see that Rod Marinelli's rush philosophy is in place. What's missing from the backup defensive linemen is exactly what you mentioned: discipline. They demonstrated push but their spacing was often atrocious. Plus, they need more self awareness. I remember one play where Boatright upfield rush was perfect and positioning was right there to make a tackle. I also give him props for properly turning the running back inside (where no one was there to mop up), but he allowed himself to get tangled up with his blocker. He must learn to shed his blocker faster.
 

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In the halftime quotes, one Cowboys defender said everyone was looking good and another said they did a great job. Hey, agree to disagree


Marinelli needs to instill some discipline but right now he probably is more interested in the non-starters showing him some rush. If you put starting DT in the game along with disciplined DEs you won't see that delayed handoff and run to daylight stuff as much.

They don't care about who won the game and neither should we. They want to look at the non-starters. Still I wouldn't want to be those guys in the film room.

I understand wanting to look @ non-starters...but come on. Something is wrong here. This whole trust in Marinelli thing...I'm really having my doubts. Let's not forget he was the head coach of the 0-16 Detroit Lions.

Timeline
1996: Marinelli went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996 and was the defensive line coach for 6 seasons under head coach Tony Dungy.
2006: On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron.
2008: He was fired from his position as head coach one day after coaching the Lions to the worst single-season record in NFL history, 0–16 in 2008.
2010: Marinelli was promoted from defensive line coach to defensive coordinator in February 2010.
2013: Marinelli left the Bears in January 2013.
2013: On January 18, 2013, Marinelli joined the Dallas Cowboys as defensive line coach.
2014: Marinelli was promoted to defensive coordinator after the demotion of Monte Kiffin on January 28, 2014.


Something is wrong w/ the scheme. People are constantly running free in our secondary and our dbs are in no position to make a play. They are just there to make a tackle. Move on to the next play. Something has got to change.

Don't get me started w/ the D-line....yes I missed the 1st quarter...but the backups looked horrendous. Not a clue how to get off blocks....DTs getting pushed off the line 4-5 yards. It looked like a lot of the time they were lining up DE's inside. Adewale Ojomo , Caesar Rayford, Dartwon Bush ...I mean what are they really accomplishing here? I sure wouldn't want to see any of those guys getting time as a DT in the regular season.
 

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In the halftime quotes, one Cowboys defender said everyone was looking good and another said they did a great job. Hey, agree to disagree


I understand wanting to look @ non-starters...but come on. Something is wrong here. This whole trust in Marinelli thing...I'm really having my doubts. Let's not forget he was the head coach of the 0-16 Detroit Lions.

Timeline

1996: Marinelli went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996 and was the defensive line coach for 6 seasons under head coach Tony Dungy.
2006: On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron.
2008: He was fired from his position as head coach one day after coaching the Lions to the worst single-season record in NFL history, 0–16 in 2008.
2010: Marinelli was promoted from defensive line coach to defensive coordinator in February 2010.
2013: Marinelli left the Bears in January 2013.
2013: On January 18, 2013, Marinelli joined the Dallas Cowboys as defensive line coach.
2014: Marinelli was promoted to defensive coordinator after the demotion of Monte Kiffin on January 28, 2014.

Something is wrong w/ the scheme. People are constantly running free in our secondary and our dbs are in no position to make a play. They are just there to make a tackle. Move on to the next play. Something has got to change.

Don't get me started w/ the D-line....yes I missed the 1st quarter...but the backups looked horrendous. Not a clue how to get off blocks....DTs getting pushed off the line 4-5 yards. It looked like a lot of the time they were lining up DE's inside. Adewale Ojomo , Caesar Rayford, Dartwon Bush ...I mean what are they really accomplishing here? I sure wouldn't want to see any of those guys getting time as a DT in the regular season.

You didn't miss anything. The defense looked awful right from the beginning.
 

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I wouldn't even let them get back on the train to Oxnard. I have a hard time believing this is the best the front office can find. Would certainly be turning the roster today

Aladenoye, Josh offenisive tackle was just abysmal last night.....there has to be a vet T out there better than this
Benford, Tim JAG
Bishop, Ken.......Has been a Cowboyzone favorite...Was nothing but a speed bump last night
Hanie, Caleb.....Was a deer in the headlights. Shocking to see from a 6 year vet
Heath, Jeff....a ton of missed tackles...but caused 1 fumble will get him more looks
Johnson, Matt.....Has he been glued back together yet?
Jones, Chris.....JAG w/ no hangtime
Lindsey, Corey...made it just in time to get toasted for 70 yard TD
Malena, Ben.....we are set @ RB. Just wasting a roster spot
Sapp, Dontavis....Might be the skinniest lber in recent memory
Smith, Ryan....Was horrible in the BCS championship...and the trend continued
Webb, B.W..... Another kid I had high hopes for thinking a year in the league would help...still just as clueless

All this talk about how well some of these guys were playing in camp like a Davon Coleman, Terrance Mitchell, Martez Wilson and Anthony Hitchens aren't far behind.

I'm really starting to have my doubts about players like Jeremy Mincey, Terrell McClain and Ben Bass...that we have been sold another lemon by the good old car salesman Jerry.

So disappointed in the 1st preseason loss. 27-7.

And let's not sugar coat this........It should have been 37-7....and maybe even worse if a couple of those interceptions hadn't been dropped that would have been pick 6's

It's one thing to get beat...but this team was once again not ready to play. Poor coaching decisions..(passing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2) Poor tackling. Defense can't get off blocks.

It just blows my mind that this team looked so poor....knowing what it's problems were...yet we looked worse than last season:confused:

I am thinking about keeping Bishop and cutting...YOU.
 

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In the halftime quotes, one Cowboys defender said everyone was looking good and another said they did a great job. Hey, agree to disagree


I understand wanting to look @ non-starters...but come on. Something is wrong here. This whole trust in Marinelli thing...I'm really having my doubts. Let's not forget he was the head coach of the 0-16 Detroit Lions.

Timeline

1996: Marinelli went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996 and was the defensive line coach for 6 seasons under head coach Tony Dungy.
2006: On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron.
2008: He was fired from his position as head coach one day after coaching the Lions to the worst single-season record in NFL history, 0–16 in 2008.
2010: Marinelli was promoted from defensive line coach to defensive coordinator in February 2010.
2013: Marinelli left the Bears in January 2013.
2013: On January 18, 2013, Marinelli joined the Dallas Cowboys as defensive line coach.
2014: Marinelli was promoted to defensive coordinator after the demotion of Monte Kiffin on January 28, 2014.

Something is wrong w/ the scheme. People are constantly running free in our secondary and our dbs are in no position to make a play. They are just there to make a tackle. Move on to the next play. Something has got to change.

Don't get me started w/ the D-line....yes I missed the 1st quarter...but the backups looked horrendous. Not a clue how to get off blocks....DTs getting pushed off the line 4-5 yards. It looked like a lot of the time they were lining up DE's inside. Adewale Ojomo , Caesar Rayford, Dartwon Bush ...I mean what are they really accomplishing here? I sure wouldn't want to see any of those guys getting time as a DT in the regular season.

A lot of those guys won't make the team.

Randy White looked poor for two years so I wouldn't jump off the bridge over a preseason game. They are having to retool the defense. It will take some time to put the puzzle together. If our starting DL had played poorly then I'd be concerned but most of them didn't play or play long.
 

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I don't think everything will be fixed in three weeks, but its their first live action in 9 months... We had a couple starters on the defense, but other then that it was a bunch of rookies or journeyman. In the NFL if you can't disguise your weakness your going to get shredded. Unfortunately last night we had about 7 weaknesses on the field. The one thing I did see was some fire in the players - They didn't give up on that goal line stand. Mitchell didn't play well, but he was passionate and played pretty much the entire game. I wouldn't mind cutting Webb and rolling the dice with Mitchell and Moore.
 
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