Would feel a lot better if Bryce Brown were on the roster

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...were on the roster

right now. He looks like odd man out in Buffalo because of McCoy and new regime. He'll likely get cut after 3rd preseason game. But to me, he's worth a conditional 7th round pick now to get him on the roster before training camp. He's young, no injury history, costs only $660k, is In a contract year so motivated, he's very talented (he was once the #1 overall rated high school RB and Buffalo traded a draft pick to get him from Philly), and he would immediately be the most physical back we have at 6'0" 225. Obvious downside too because he's a bit of an entitled and immature player, and may need lots of work in pass pro. But I like being proactive now and giving him a true chance to learn the system, rather than waiting for McFadden and Williams to inevitably get injured during training camp and having to take whoever is left or trade a higher pick. Thoughts?
 
...were on the roster

right now. He looks like odd man out in Buffalo because of McCoy and new regime. He'll likely get cut after 3rd preseason game. But to me, he's worth a conditional 7th round pick now to get him on the roster before training camp. He's young, no injury history, costs only $660k, is In a contract year so motivated, he's very talented (he was once the #1 overall rated high school RB and Buffalo traded a draft pick to get him from Philly), and he would immediately be the most physical back we have at 6'0" 225. Obvious downside too because he's a bit of an entitled and immature player, and may need lots of work in pass pro. But I like being proactive now and giving him a true chance to learn the system, rather than waiting for McFadden and Williams to inevitably get injured during training camp and having to take whoever is left or trade a higher pick. Thoughts?

With his history with dooley, I would say the odds are better for ray rice.

And that is .000001% or so
 
...were on the roster

right now. He looks like odd man out in Buffalo because of McCoy and new regime. He'll likely get cut after 3rd preseason game. But to me, he's worth a conditional 7th round pick now to get him on the roster before training camp. He's young, no injury history, costs only $660k, is In a contract year so motivated, he's very talented (he was once the #1 overall rated high school RB and Buffalo traded a draft pick to get him from Philly), and he would immediately be the most physical back we have at 6'0" 225. Obvious downside too because he's a bit of an entitled and immature player, and may need lots of work in pass pro. But I like being proactive now and giving him a true chance to learn the system, rather than waiting for McFadden and Williams to inevitably get injured during training camp and having to take whoever is left or trade a higher pick. Thoughts?

No reason for Buffalo to trade him now. One or two injuries, and he's the starter.

If they wish to trade, wait as long as possible for a RB hungry team to offer more than a conditional 7th.
 
...were on the roster

right now. He looks like odd man out in Buffalo because of McCoy and new regime. He'll likely get cut after 3rd preseason game. But to me, he's worth a conditional 7th round pick now to get him on the roster before training camp. He's young, no injury history, costs only $660k, is In a contract year so motivated, he's very talented (he was once the #1 overall rated high school RB and Buffalo traded a draft pick to get him from Philly), and he would immediately be the most physical back we have at 6'0" 225. Obvious downside too because he's a bit of an entitled and immature player, and may need lots of work in pass pro. But I like being proactive now and giving him a true chance to learn the system, rather than waiting for McFadden and Williams to inevitably get injured during training camp and having to take whoever is left or trade a higher pick. Thoughts?

He has some talent, but also has a lot of issues.

He has personality/character issues that showed up in college (Tennessee and Kansas State), with the Eagles and with the Bills.

He also has fumble issues.

He had a decent rookie year (2012) with 115 carries for 564 yards (avg 4.9) but had 4 fumbles. He had 13 receptions. That is a 1 fumble per 32 touches which is really bad. Murray had 1 in 89 in 2014 he we thought that was terrible.

It would need to be a conditional 7th, IMO. Conditional on him being on the roster for 10 games.


May 19, 2015 2:44 pm
Bills RB Bryce Brown (personal) not partaking in voluntary workouts

by Michael Hurcomb | CBSSports.com

Bills running back Bryce Brown has been unable to participate in voluntary offseason workouts because of personal reasons, running backs coach Anthony Lynn said Tuesday.


"Bryce is doing what he has to do right now, taking care of his family in the offseason," Lynn said, per ESPN. "But yes, it will set him back. I mean, he's five, six weeks behind everyone else. Once he gets here it's going to be hard to slow down and catch him up. That's one of my biggest concerns.


"But he's got the playbook and hopefully he's taking care of his business and he'll come in in great shape and we'll see what happens."


Although coach Rex Ryan called out Brown in March about his fumbling issues, general manager Doug Whaley has implored the coaching staff to give Brown a "clean slate."


"Rex has a way of motivating guys and getting his point across. I think Bryce got the point," Lynn said. "It's more mental than drills: just helping him know and feel where the ball is, just having an awareness of where the ball is.


"Runners naturally are going to swing the ball, when you try to maintain your balance and fall and all those types of things. But when you have that awareness of where the ball is, then you can protect it more times than not."



11/14/14 - RB Bryce Brown rushed for only 14 yards against Miami, but he did catch seven passes for 57 yards and returned three kickoffs for 75 yards subbing for injured Marquise Goodwin.
11/11/14 - RB Bryce Brown rushed for 35 yards, and caught six passes for 65 yards, but he also lost a fumble near the goal line on a play that he was about to score on.
11/11/14 - RB Bryce Brown lost a key fumble in the Kansas City game, and it played a role in the Bills' loss because he was heading into the end zone for a score that would have given the Bills a 17-3 third-quarter lead. The ball caromed out the back of the end zone for a touchback. Still, Brown showed the Bills something by rushing for 35 yards and, just as important, catching six passes for 65 yards. Being a dual threat is key in the Bills' offense because they rely on short passes. C.J. Spiller has rarely been able to be that dual threat. This year, before his broken collarbone on Oct. 19, Spiller had only 14 catches for 109 yards and one touchdown in seven games. "I mean other than that (fumble) I thought I did pretty well," Brown said of the Kansas City game. "At the end of the day, you have to finish and keep improving. We have a short turnaround, so this is a tough loss for us, but we can't let Kansas City beat us twice."
11/09/14 - RB Bryce Brown gained 100 yards from scrimmage in his second game on the active roster. He rushed seven times for 35 yards and caught six passes for 65 yards. Brown, however, lost a fumble near the goal line when the Bills were on the cusp of building on their 10-3 halftime lead.
10/27/14 - -- RB Bryce Brown managed only seven carries for 15 yards. As long as the Bills are without both Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller, Brown should get the bulk of the carries, but it didn't work out that way against the Jets.
 
I would feel much better if we were not scanning teams rosters in hopes that whichever RB isn't good enough to make their team could be an upgrade over one or all of our backs.

I don't see the talent gap to be great enough between Bryce Brown and our backs. In fact I would hope our backs had the edge, even if slight.
 
I would feel much better if we were not scanning teams rosters in hopes that whichever RB isn't good enough to make their team could be an upgrade over one or all of our backs.

I don't see the talent gap to be great enough between Bryce Brown and our backs. In fact I would hope our backs had the edge, even if slight.

The best ability is availability.
 
You like at Bryce Brown's highlight reel, and you say to yourself "wow, that guy is an elite RB"... then you realize that he can't hold onto the ball, and you realize why he's about to be on his third team.
 
Brown isn't anything special.

I think Randle is a more accomplished runner.

He'll be available at some point through the waiver process.

If the Cowboys were to pick up someone, Chris Johnson would be a better choice.
 
Brown isn't anything special.

I think Randle is a more accomplished runner.

He'll be available at some point through the waiver process.

If the Cowboys were to pick up someone, Chris Johnson would be a better choice.

Eh, I'd argue that Brown is more of a "special" talent than Randle is, the guy is just so damn quick and fast. Either way, Randle is our guy, and I'm okay with that.
 
Guy puts the ball on the ground. Bills fans can't stand the guy. No thank you.
 
Brown isn't anything special.

I think Randle is a more accomplished runner.

He'll be available at some point through the waiver process.

If the Cowboys were to pick up someone, Chris Johnson would be a better choice.

I'm fine with Randle as starter, I'm just not fine with only McFaddden and Williams behind him. I want some young legs and talent.
 
I'm fine with Randle as starter, I'm just not fine with only McFaddden and Williams behind him. I want some young legs and talent.

Hey, I'd like to see a talented rookie as a backup also... however comma...

If McFadden and Williams can't stay healthy through camp, then jettison them and bring in Chris Johnson for instance.

I think next year's draft is going to be the draft of the offensive skill player... QB, WR, RB.
 
Hey, I'd like to see a talented rookie as a backup also... however comma...

If McFadden and Williams can't stay healthy through camp, then jettison them and bring in Chris Johnson for instance.

I think next year's draft is going to be the draft of the offensive skill player... QB, WR, RB.

I think Chris Johnson will only sign right now for a significant contract. If he would sign for a non-guaranteed veteran's minimum, he would already be on a team, IMO. I think he would want enough guaranteed that a team would not bring him to training camp and then cut him if younger, cheaper options develop.

If I had made tens of millions like he has, I would not put myself though the beating that an NFL RB takes for 800K.
 
...were on the roster

right now. He looks like odd man out in Buffalo because of McCoy and new regime. He'll likely get cut after 3rd preseason game. But to me, he's worth a conditional 7th round pick now to get him on the roster before training camp. He's young, no injury history, costs only $660k, is In a contract year so motivated, he's very talented (he was once the #1 overall rated high school RB and Buffalo traded a draft pick to get him from Philly), and he would immediately be the most physical back we have at 6'0" 225. Obvious downside too because he's a bit of an entitled and immature player, and may need lots of work in pass pro. But I like being proactive now and giving him a true chance to learn the system, rather than waiting for McFadden and Williams to inevitably get injured during training camp and having to take whoever is left or trade a higher pick. Thoughts?

I am willing to gamble on any RB considering that two of the top RBs on the roster are injuries waiting to happen. Let's be honest DMac and Ryan has already missed time in OTAs. This will only be the tip of the iceberg for things to come. The RB position has not been handled well at all this offseason.
 
Brown isn't anything special.

I think Randle is a more accomplished runner.

He'll be available at some point through the waiver process.

If the Cowboys were to pick up someone, Chris Johnson would be a better choice.

He is washed up with big contract demands . No thank you.
 
The best ability is availability.

That's a nice little catchphrase that is quickly turning into a cliche, so there is some truth to it. But there are a lot of RB's that are available that aren't worth getting.
 
The RB position has not been handled well at all this offseason.

No matter how many times this gets repeated the only thing I can think of is all the chances the Cowboys had to make a move for a big time RB and passed every single time. Every single time.
 

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