News: Bob Sturm: Why I was so wrong about Cowboys coach Jason Garrett

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Are you implying that Garrett handles the player acquisition as in the draft and FA? He decides who goes and who stays?

Wouldnt that be the job of the scouting and GM? AS in the draft, FA, player salaries.

Are you also implying that Garrett made the decision to replace himself as OC?

You are also saying then that Garrett made the decision to hire Marinelli.

its a shared responsibility between the three. the coach sets the vision for the type of team, players and schemes he wants and its responsibility of the GM for acquisition and responsibility of scouting to evaluate.

garrett was directly involved in hiring OC. and DC. fact.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Deception in general. Or taking advantage of all these rules that favor the offense.


Nah.. We'll just make our receivers run 25 yards downfield every play.

We throw in 1 little wrinkle with getting Witten and Beasley squatted down in the middle of the defense and it changes years of struggling.

It took all of Garretts career and half of another season for that clown to finally decide to not be so stubborn and make an adjustment instead of letting teams load the box and press us out wide.

ahh, that's the norv turner offense. which is still successful in the NFL. and if we start to dig into this I bet we will unveil a lot of perception just like the running game thing you guys are hanging your hat on.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We gave Romo more responsibility to change plays in 2013 because Garrett sucked so bad in previous years.

Jerry was trying to do anything he could to save face and keep Garrett as the O-Coordinator.

Finally he realized we had no direction on offense thanks to JG, Stone Cold Stunned that clown, and hired Linehan to run Garretts crappy schemes.

wow. just wow. you just spin spin spin. now you have no leg to stand on this issue and you are going with garrett sucked so we gave romo responsibility. so I guess it wasn't garrett then. it was all romo, he didn't want to run. not garrett. he sucked in calling plays.

you guys just are grasping at straws right now. the responses are becoming more childish by the post. do you work for TMZ? or national enquirer by any chance

wow. I am truly amazed by this response.

is your name lee blair?

 

[CATCH17]

ahh, that's the norv turner offense. which is still successful in the NFL. and if we start to dig into this I bet we will unveil a lot of perception just like the running game thing you guys are hanging your hat on.

I think you need to actually watch how Norv is calling plays these days. Norv actually uses the Playaction and WR screens.

 

[CATCH17]

wow. just wow. you just spin spin spin. now you have no leg to stand on this issue and you are going with garrett sucked so we gave romo responsibility. so I guess it wasn't garrett then. it was all romo, he didn't want to run. not garrett. he sucked in calling plays.

you guys just are grasping at straws right now. the responses are becoming more childish by the post. do you work for TMZ? or national enquirer by any chance

wow. I am truly amazed by this response.

is your name lee blair?

Im not grasping at anything.

Jerry made Callahan O Coordinator and gave Romo the power to switch plays. Don't think im grasping for straws at all there.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think you need to actually watch how Norv is calling plays these days. Norv actually uses the Playaction and WR screens.

well garrett's bland schemes have produced #7, #16, #6, #11, #7, #2, #13, #3 offenses in the league over the past 8 year. in case you have trouble counting, that's 5 top 10 finishes in 8 years

 

[CATCH17]

well garrett's bland schemes have produced #7, #16, #6, #11, #7, #2, #13, #3 offenses in the league over the past 8 year. in case you have trouble counting, that's 5 top 10 finishes in 8 years

Because he has Tony Romo. You could pull plays out of a hat and put up numbers with any of these top QB's.

This is irrelevant though.. If Jason was a good O Coordinator he would still be doing it. He sucked and Jerry delivered the stunner.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think you need to actually watch how Norv is calling plays these days. Norv actually uses the Playaction and WR screens.

We tried to run play action. We sucked at it. the vast majority of Romo's few picks were out of play action. I think the schism with our run game coordinator had something to do with it. Makes sense if the pass and run coordinators don't get along play action will suffer. I am hopeful this Loney guy they brought in to replace him can do a better job in that arena.

I imagine Norv is in a similar circumstance with coaches he depends on.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Garrett is a trash gameday coach.

Comon' man you know he is the best gameday clapper in the league. I've heard Garrett haters proclaim that for years.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Im not grasping at anything.

Jerry made Callahan O Coordinator and gave Romo the power to switch plays. Don't think im grasping for straws at all there.

and lest we forget that half way through the season we were sucking up and Garrett promptly took those responsibilities away from callahan

 

[casmith07]

With a QB like Romo.. It definitely could've been a lot easier than we made it. We should definitely have been and had more post season success than what we have had.

I wasn't asking you. Our conversation is over.

 

[casmith07]

Not at all, but this "evidence" is rather short, etc. regarding the establishment of a winning culture here in Big D.

So you would've fired Jimmy early too, then?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Because he has Tony Romo. You could pull plays out of a hat and put up numbers with any of these top QB's.

This is irrelevant though.. If Jason was a good O Coordinator he would still be doing it. He sucked and Jerry delivered the stunner.

so I guess billicheck is not really a good coach since he has brady. I guess McCarthy sucks too. and on and on.

that's called grasping at straws.

and we are not talking about garrett the OC who has produced 3 top 10 offenses in the three years he was the OC. we are talking about garrett as the head coach and the results have been quite good.

either way, you have no leg to stand on. you are spinning and grasping at straws. coming up with nothing

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Comon' man you know he is the best gameday clapper in the league. I've heard Garrett haters proclaim that for years.

actually the best game day clapper is pete carroll. he wins by a mile at least if not two.

 

[gmoney112]

so I guess billicheck is not really a good coach since he has brady. I guess McCarthy sucks too. and on and on.

that's called grasping at straws.

and we are not talking about garrett the OC who has produced 3 top 10 offenses in the three years he was the OC. we are talking about garrett as the head coach and the results have been quite good.

either way, you have no leg to stand on. you are spinning and grasping at straws. coming up with nothing

Catch17 doesn't know what he's talking about, it's best to leave the trolls be.

10$ says he can't name 3 good coaches that call their own offensive plays.

 

[Dodger12]

now, is that the same Detroit game, when we ran the ball 8 times for average of 4.3 yards and passed 4 times in the 4th quarter? scoring twice on TD passes? is that the game you are referring to? just want to make sure. keep in mind 3 of those runs were -3 yards. one run was 9 yards. so things are skewed. its not like we averaged 4 yards every run.

before you jump to other conclusion in the third quarter run/pass ratio was 5/9. and 5 of the passes was in the first series alone. so the rest of the way we had a 5/4 run/pass ratio.

perceptions.

Sometimes I wonder if we even watch the same team. I'm talking about the game where we were up by 24 points with possession on our 27 or so yard line and we decide to pass on FIRST FREAKING DOWN up by 24 in the second half. That INT by Bobby Carpenter was taken back for a TD. But hey, no problem....3rd and 2 at midfield up by 17 with a little under 6 minutes to play in the 3rd. We got this....not. We pass out of the SHOTGUN on 3rd and 2 and it's intercepted and taken back again for a TD. But wait.....no problem. We're up by 3 with the ball on our 20 and a little over 4 minutes left to play in the 4th.....what do we do on 1st and 10? You guessed it...we passed the ball leading to another INT.

Please don't tell me about your ratio. Folks have a bad habot of looking at the "stats" to find a silver lining without watching the darn game. We passed twice on 1st down with a big lead leading to 2 INT's returned for TD's. We never even ran any time off the clock. That's Garrett's MO. You'd think he would have known better after the debacle against the NYJ two weeks earlier when we blew a 14 point 4th quarter lead as well. Our offense in 2014 looked nothing like what Garrett called.

Perceptions.........

 

[Dodger12]

its a shared responsibility between the three. the coach sets the vision for the type of team, players and schemes he wants and its responsibility of the GM for acquisition and responsibility of scouting to evaluate.

garrett was directly involved in hiring OC. and DC. fact.

So Kiffin was a Garrett hire? And what vision did Garrett have when he threw his little tantrum with TC over Sharif Floyd? Whatever it was, someone forgot to tell Jerry about Garrett's vision.

 

[CCBoy]

I know, kick the wife and kiss the dog...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Sometimes I wonder if we even watch the same team. I'm talking about the game where we were up by 24 points with possession on our 27 or so yard line and we decide to pass on FIRST FREAKING DOWN up by 24 in the second half. That INT by Bobby Carpenter was taken back for a TD. But hey, no problem....3rd and 2 at midfield up by 17 with a little under 6 minutes to play in the 3rd. We got this....not. We pass out of the SHOTGUN on 3rd and 2 and it's intercepted and taken back again for a TD. But wait.....no problem. We're up by 3 with the ball on our 20 and a little over 4 minutes left to play in the 4th.....what do we do on 1st and 10? You guessed it...we passed the ball leading to another INT.

Please don't tell me about your ratio. Folks have a bad habot of looking at the "stats" to find a silver lining without watching the darn game. We passed twice on 1st down with a big lead leading to 2 INT's returned for TD's. We never even ran any time off the clock. That's Garrett's MO. You'd think he would have known better after the debacle against the NYJ two weeks earlier when we blew a 14 point 4th quarter lead as well. Our offense in 2014 looked nothing like what Garrett called.

Perceptions.........

we probably aren't on the same page. that's obvious. you realize we have played Detroit over the past few years. so just saying the game against Detroit doesn't reference the specific game. and yes, that was a bad game. tell me about a coach who hasn't had a bad game? is that the only game you can reference? that's it. one game and your decision is based on that one game over a 8 year span?

and I am sure garrett has designed plays for romo to throw interceptions. all coaches design plays for their QB to throw interceptions.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So Kiffin was a Garrett hire? And what vision did Garrett have when he threw his little tantrum with TC over Sharif Floyd? Whatever it was, someone forgot to tell Jerry about Garrett's vision.

kiffin came on board to help transition of 3-4 to 4-3 defense and it was with Garrett's input. and garrett preaches the proess. the process is to trust your people and he trusted mcclay who has been mentioned on multiple posts on this very thread and his evaluation of Floyd and that he was the #7 ranked player on our board. if you are picking in the 20s and the #7 player falls to you, you take him. that's why garrett was upset. instead jones did the jones thing. once we got past that, he was back in the draft room focusing on what's coming.

you guys really grasp at anything to try and discredit garrett at times. its funny to watch the spins people put around things.

facts are that under garrett we have never had a losing season. we have re-built one of the youngest rosters in the league. changed the culture of hte team and the organization and stayed competitive through it. not many coaches can claim that.

now you can spin your hatred of garrett on one Detroit game, or one draft pick and make mountain out of a mole hill. or you can pony up show leadership and admit that you are wrong.