Can anyone explain not punting with 1 minute left?

rpntex

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If you are saying Michigan made a bad decision by trying to punt, I'd also say you were wrong. You can't coach based upon a .00000001 probability of something happening.

Completely different scenario. Michigan-MSU was a one-score game when Harbaugh made the decision to punt. In that situation, he had no choice.The point is - that it can happen, wven when the odds are miniscule. It's the same principle as a coach taking a safety when he's up by 6 with less than a minute remaining. You give the opposition two points in order to avoid the risk of giving them 7.
 

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As far the punt goes, you can at least intelligently argue the point either way. The squib....never. Only thing I can think is that Bailey complete mi**** it, other than that there is no reasonable explanation.
 

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Still playing scared. If we are going over the fumbled snap or blocked kick logic, what if McFadden would have fumbled. Maybe we should have went into victory formation

That was kind of my point. What if there was a holding penalty and we gave them another 10 yards in field position. We can play what ifs all day. When its 4th and 11 and you are not in field goal range and you're up by 10 with 1 minute left in the game, you punt. Every single time! You don't give them the ball on the 40 yard line. That's one or two plays from kicking a field goal or one missed tackle away from a TD and then we are sweating an onside kick. Punt the ball out of bounds inside the 10 and play defense.
 

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Isn't there a time difference on the game clock on a 4th down turnover as opposed to punting?

Either way, I think the worry is Miami returns the punt for a TD and then gets the ball back on an onside kick. Given the way our ST have played, that may have been a bigger fear than giving up two long TD passes in less than a minute.
 

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I thought it was an interesting call but our special teams is... well, special so I understand not wanting to put it in their hands.
 

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As far the punt goes, you can at least intelligently argue the point either way. The squib....never. Only thing I can think is that Bailey complete mi**** it, other than that there is no reasonable explanation.

No, I think he just happened to kick it right at someone and they were able to field it. If that player let it go, it would have been fine. They just didn't want to kickoff deep to the 5 yardline and risk a big return.
 

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Isn't there a time difference on the game clock on a 4th down turnover as opposed to punting?

Either way, I think the worry is Miami returns the punt for a TD and then gets the ball back on an onside kick. Given the way our ST have played, that may have been a bigger fear than giving up two long TD passes in less than a minute.

Punters have been punting the ball out of bounds inside the 20 yard line since before I was born. That is what was called for in that situation.
 

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It was wet. A punt is a long snap. Apparently, Garrett didn't want to take the chance of a fumbled snap. Again, see the Michigan v. Michigan St. game.

That is a ridiculous comparison. The fact that Michigan punted on 4th and 2 from the 50 shows you that it is the better play. They couldn't run off 9 seconds so they decided to punt and make the field longer.

If they go for it and fail, MSU is in Hail Mary range.

Decisions should be based on giving your team the best chance to win, not worst case scenario.

But that is how JG always coaches and it is why we lost 7 games without Romo. He game-planned for what could go wrong and not for what could go right.
 

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I can't for the life of me figure out what they were thinking. I know the game is seamingly in hand but if you are just going to hand it off on 4th and 11, why not punt? If you are worried about a return, then boot it into the endzone or out of bounds inside the 20. You can run more clock with a punt and pin them back deeper. I think it was foolish to just hand them the ball on the 40. One play and they are attempting an onside kick down by one score. That kind of end of game decision making can kill a team. If you aren't going to attempt to get the 1st down, punt the damn ball and make them go 90 yards in less than a minute just to try an onside kick.

OK we won today, right? Right?
You are making me nervous like a online sportsbet scammer. Code word SCAM :D
 

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That is a ridiculous comparison. The fact that Michigan punted on 4th and 2 from the 50 shows you that it is the better play. They couldn't run off 9 seconds so they decided to punt and make the field longer.

If they go for it and fail, MSU is in Hail Mary range.

Decisions should be based on giving your team the best chance to win, not worst case scenario.

But that is how JG always coaches and it is why we lost 7 games without Romo. He game-planned for what could go wrong and not for what could go right.

The comparison was only used to show a punt can be fumbled and/or muffed. If you took it beyond that, that's on you.
 

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Wrong. Uneducated fans again.

Because someone has a different opinion on strategy, they are uneducated? Someone might say the same about you. How about you show your education and try to debate their idea?
 

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Why not take a shot instead of running the ball? Nothing to lose as long as you don't take the sack.
 

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The comparison was only used to show a punt can be fumbled and/or muffed. If you took it beyond that, that's on you.

They brought the punt team out on 4th and 6 and took a False Start penalty from the 31.

THEN they decided to "take a knee" via handoff on 4th and 11.

So we gave them an extra 7 yards just as a bonus.

The whole thing was galactically stupid.
 

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I think in the future we have to open it up a bit at end of games we can't be predictable like running all the time. It worked this time but how many games have we lost with this mentality. Throw the ball down field and stick a knife in their throats for good.
 

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I think in the future we have to open it up a bit at end of games we can't be predictable like running all the time. It worked this time but how many games have we lost with this mentality. Throw the ball down field and stick a knife in their throats for good.

IDK. They were able to run off 5:30 minutes and covered over 50 yds with only one pass. It was great seeing some 4th quarter rushing first downs.
 

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I thought it was the right move. On top of a potential for punt block/keeping it out of the hands of Landry, we were also able to chew up 30+ seconds off the clock.
 
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