Just say NO to QB at #4

[StarBoyz83]

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Wait, this sounds vaguely familiar. Oh yea, right before he hurt his back in the first game and broke bones in the others. This while he was a year younger.

Fortunately the GM is sharper than most fans.

No he's not he thinks romo can play another 5 years lol

 

[Rockport]

And when Goff or Wentz turn out to be JAGS, not the answer at QB, will you still think the selection at 4 was the smart move? None of these guys were rated at the top of boards throughout the year. Almost every draft guru said that Goff and Lynch should have returned to school, that neither is ready. Now Wentz is the golden boy of the moment. You can be sure that reports Dallas scouts knew about him and were hoping he wouldn't blow up like this is because they were considering him at 34, not at 4.

I don't pretend to know much, but I have seen games of all three, and what I saw didn't remind me of the big time QBs we are used to seeing in the top 3-4 picks of the draft. These guys are not top 5 talent.

Highest rated is at #17 so you have a valid point.

 

[robjay04]

Incredibly short sighted and I disagree with most of it. The problem I have is the staff here gives me no confidence they can develop a QB. Biggest problem I have with this short sighted view point is that franchise QBs dont appear when you want them too. They have to be drafted and developed. Statistically speaking you find more franchise QBs in round one and decreases as you go to other rounds. Play the percentages.

I don't really get the thought process that we can't develop a QB. We really haven't tried. We spent one draft pick on a QB and I don't think McGee got a job after we cut him so it's not like other teams were lining up to give him a shot. Weeden is just not a good football player, I blame the staff for not noticing that beforehand more than not developing him correctly.

The only QB that has really developed under Garrett is Romo. When Garrett took over the offense, Romo only played a handful of games and was considered too risky by some. Romo scaled back incredibly into the QB he is today, I don't think you can give Garrett all the credit for that but you can't give Parcells/Payton credit for the QB he has become either.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Duck.

 

[Jerryrage]

Lets be bad for another 20 years.

 

[Nightman]

I just realized that Goff looks like Ryan gossling.

He could play him in the movie

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Goff--Wentz--Lynch

Last year all three would have been drafted behind Winston and Marietta. Any of these guys could develop into a quality starting QB in 2-3 years. Any could be career backups. Time for the hype to end.

Romo is not old. According to reports and himself, his back and core are stronger than ever. A collar bone is a collar bone; I've never heard of a career ending due to a collar bone. Tony Romo's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

No one drafts a QB in the top five picks to sit behind a franchise QB for 2-3 years or longer. Even NE has planned twice to prepare for Brady's retirement, but never at the top. All this talk is just foolishness. Draft a super blue-chip defender at #4 or trade down for multiple picks and turn those into DL, LB, DB, and pick up a developmental QB, RB, and WR in middle rounds.

It's too early to pass on impact players who can help a legitimate playoff team with Romo and Dez healthy to take a talented, but developmental QB and sit him on the bench. Sorry, no way I'm buying that move. I hope the hype for all three QBs goes through the roof so that Dallas gets some great trade offers to think about vs a blue-chip defender.

I'm saying no to you, Chuck.

Just kidding. In all seriousness, no one player is going to impact the 2016 season as much as Romo. If he goes down again, it's going to be another long season.

Why not draft the QB heir now when the opportunity is there to take one of top three prospects? Especially if this team is closer to 12-4 than 4-12 with a healthy Romo?

 

[CATCH17]

Goff--Wentz--Lynch

Last year all three would have been drafted behind Winston and Marietta. Any of these guys could develop into a quality starting QB in 2-3 years. Any could be career backups. Time for the hype to end.

Romo is not old. According to reports and himself, his back and core are stronger than ever. A collar bone is a collar bone; I've never heard of a career ending due to a collar bone. Tony Romo's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

No one drafts a QB in the top five picks to sit behind a franchise QB for 2-3 years or longer. Even NE has planned twice to prepare for Brady's retirement, but never at the top. All this talk is just foolishness. Draft a super blue-chip defender at #4 or trade down for multiple picks and turn those into DL, LB, DB, and pick up a developmental QB, RB, and WR in middle rounds.

It's too early to pass on impact players who can help a legitimate playoff team with Romo and Dez healthy to take a talented, but developmental QB and sit him on the bench. Sorry, no way I'm buying that move. I hope the hype for all three QBs goes through the roof so that Dallas gets some great trade offers to think about vs a blue-chip defender.

Top of this draft class is weak and Wentz has huge upside.

Give me the chance at a franchise QB over a solid at best guy like Bosa or some DB that doesn't make a big impact on games.

Wentz is the lotto ticket and Dallas should buy it.

 

[mattjames2010]

Still awaiting a convincing argument these guys are the real deal.

All I keep reading is "They are QBs, draft them".

 

[Nightman]

I'm saying no to you, Chuck.

Just kidding. In all seriousness, no one player is going to impact the 2016 season as much as Romo. If he goes down again, it's going to be another long season.

Why not draft the QB heir now when the opportunity is there to take one of top three prospects? Especially if this team is closer to 12-4 than 4-12 with a healthy Romo?

Worst case we get a solid backup for 4-5 years like Osweiler.

Best case we have a replacement for Romo in 2 years.

If we drafted Bosa would he really impact more than 1 win? A QB is that important.
Plus we could always re-sign Hardy.

 

[CATCH17]

And when Goff or Wentz turn out to be JAGS, not the answer at QB, will you still think the selection at 4 was the smart move? None of these guys were rated at the top of boards throughout the year. Almost every draft guru said that Goff and Lynch should have returned to school, that neither is ready. Now Wentz is the golden boy of the moment. You can be sure that reports Dallas scouts knew about him and were hoping he wouldn't blow up like this is because they were considering him at 34, not at 4.

I don't pretend to know much, but I have seen games of all three, and what I saw didn't remind me of the big time QBs we are used to seeing in the top 3-4 picks of the draft. These guys are not top 5 talent.

Goff no.. Wentz yes..

QBs with Goffs ability can be had any year.

 

[RS12]

I don't really get the thought process that we can't develop a QB. We really haven't tried. We spent one draft pick on a QB and I don't think McGee got a job after we cut him so it's not like other teams were lining up to give him a shot. Weeden is just not a good football player, I blame the staff for not noticing that beforehand more than not developing him correctly.

The only QB that has really developed under Garrett is Romo. When Garrett took over the offense, Romo only played a handful of games and was considered too risky by some. Romo scaled back incredibly into the QB he is today, I don't think you can give Garrett all the credit for that but you can't give Parcells/Payton credit for the QB he has become either.

David Lee developed Romo. See if you can guess who is not on this staff.

 

[CATCH17]

Still awaiting a convincing argument these guys are the real deal.

All I keep reading is "They are QBs, draft them".

You'll never get one because nobody knows until they play on Sunday.


Sam Bradford was as can't miss as Andrew Luck for almost all the talent evaluators. (I didn't like him)

 

[CATCH17]

I hope they do nab Wentz (which allows the guy I want to fall right into our hands). JARED

He's very Bradfordish.

Not a big arm.. Plays in a BS offense that inflates numbers...

He does hang in the pocket under pressure though.

 

[mattjames2010]

You'll never get one because nobody knows until they play on Sunday.


Sam Bradford was as can't miss as Andrew Luck for almost all the talent evaluators. (I didn't like him)

Bradford was a MUCH better college player than any of the top QB prospects this year.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Worst case we get a solid backup for 4-5 years like Osweiler.

Best case we have a replacement for Romo in 2 years.

If we drafted Bosa would he really impact more than 1 win? A QB is that important.
Plus we could always re-sign Hardy.

How is osweiler a worse case? He's the face of the broncos next season and for many years I expect them to be competing at a high level!

 

[Sydla]

Goff--Wentz--Lynch

Last year all three would have been drafted behind Winston and Marietta. Any of these guys could develop into a quality starting QB in 2-3 years. Any could be career backups. Time for the hype to end.

Romo is not old. According to reports and himself, his back and core are stronger than ever. A collar bone is a collar bone; I've never heard of a career ending due to a collar bone. Tony Romo's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

No one drafts a QB in the top five picks to sit behind a franchise QB for 2-3 years or longer. Even NE has planned twice to prepare for Brady's retirement, but never at the top. All this talk is just foolishness. Draft a super blue-chip defender at #4 or trade down for multiple picks and turn those into DL, LB, DB, and pick up a developmental QB, RB, and WR in middle rounds.

It's too early to pass on impact players who can help a legitimate playoff team with Romo and Dez healthy to take a talented, but developmental QB and sit him on the bench. Sorry, no way I'm buying that move. I hope the hype for all three QBs goes through the roof so that Dallas gets some great trade offers to think about vs a blue-chip defender.

Some of these points are silly.

For example, New England has never planned for a Brady replacement at the top because......................... THEY NEVER PICK AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT.\

You take the BPA at 4. If the Cowboys think Goff or Wentz is the 4th best player or highest player on their board at 4, you take him. If the 4th best player on the board is Jack and he's there, then you take him. Or you survey your board and see some players you love still there and think you can trade back to get even more value at 4.

But the dumbest logic IMO would be to love one of the QBs at 4 but pass on him under some flawed logic that you shouldn't take a QB at 4 to sit him for 2 or 3 years.

You take the best player at that spot. If it's a QB, then you take the damn QB. Don't overthink this.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Goff--Wentz--Lynch

Last year all three would have been drafted behind Winston and Marietta. Any of these guys could develop into a quality starting QB in 2-3 years. Any could be career backups. Time for the hype to end.

Romo is not old. According to reports and himself, his back and core are stronger than ever. A collar bone is a collar bone; I've never heard of a career ending due to a collar bone. Tony Romo's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

No one drafts a QB in the top five picks to sit behind a franchise QB for 2-3 years or longer. Even NE has planned twice to prepare for Brady's retirement, but never at the top. All this talk is just foolishness. Draft a super blue-chip defender at #4 or trade down for multiple picks and turn those into DL, LB, DB, and pick up a developmental QB, RB, and WR in middle rounds.

It's too early to pass on impact players who can help a legitimate playoff team with Romo and Dez healthy to take a talented, but developmental QB and sit him on the bench. Sorry, no way I'm buying that move. I hope the hype for all three QBs goes through the roof so that Dallas gets some great trade offers to think about vs a blue-chip defender.

lol. The Romo 'all is well' thread. Here we go.

 

[CATCH17]

Bradford was a MUCH better college player than any of the top QB prospects this year.

Yep.. And the big school and all of the production he had there didn't translate to the NFL.

 

[Nightman]

How is osweiler a worse case? He's the face of the broncos next season and for many years I expect them to be competing at a high level!

EXACTLY