News: Did The Cowboys Improve At Backup Quarterback?

[TX Cowboy]

Are you happy now?

Not really seeing their displeasure brings me NO pleasure at all..but truth is truth
and I'd rather face the music now, than get all my hopes up only to be let down
as so many of you will experience once this whole thing implodes

 

[RS12]

Did The Cowboys Improve At Backup Quarterback?

No. Is this a serious question?

 

[CowboyStar88]

No and they wasted a pick on Dak.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yes.

We have a young guy with upside in the position whereas we didn't have that before.

If your starting qb goes down for an extended period of time 9 times out of 10 you're going to have a bad time.

I think people exaggerate the backup level talent around the league.

I dont like our backups, but this is a very good point. You essentially trade off two guys in Weeden and Cassel who's limitations were well known and exploitable for a player in Prescott who has upside.

The question wasnt did we go out and get a Steve Beuerlein. It was did you improve. Not a massive improvement, but an improvement.

Finding guys like Beuerlein is as much luck as it is skill. Kitna was a TO machine in Detroit, one could have expected he would have been a gunslinger who throws volume INT's in Dallas. But he played a much more efficient game in Dallas. Ya, system and playcall have alot to do with that, but you dont have a mind link to know that a player is gonna buy in

 

[Stash]

This isn't even a valid question.

Of course they didn't get better.

Despite calling it a huge need and a top priority for the offseason, when the time came, they treated the position like an afterthought, putting little to no effort into improving at the backup position. This entire organization is gambling on the good health of Tony Romo, all or nothing.

If Romo stays healthy, backup quarterback is a non-issue and we'll never know if they were right or wrong to bet on Kellen Moore, and the Cowboys as a result should have a very good season. If not, they've again opened themselves up for plenty of scrutiny and criticism.

 

[mrmojo]

Of course not. The question should be will our current backups help us win games if Romo were to go down for 2 or 3 starts.

 

[Jarv]

Me thinks that teams based upon a strong defense, like Denver, can overcome their starting QB going down more so than offensive orientated teams like us and Green bay. If our offensive coaches had a brain, they could gameplan around Romo going down, but as seen last year no chance.

Now, out of all of the best backup QBs out there last year, which ones would anyone thing would have won more than 2 or 3 games?

 

[DogFace]

Not really seeing their displeasure brings me NO pleasure at all..but truth is truth
and I'd rather face the music now, than get all my hopes up only to be let down
as so many of you will experience once this whole thing implodes

Very nice attitude.

I was really asking if you were happy that someone finally responded to you after all your whiney poor "us" comments in every thread.

I'm really sorry you're so upset. I hope you get past it.



I wonder if you're really a fan of the Cowboys. If you are pretend not to be. It'll be better for you the Cowboys and me.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Very nice attitude.

I was really asking if you were happy that someone finally responded to you after all your whiney poor "us" comments in every thread.

I'm really sorry you're so upset. I hope you get past it.



I wonder if you're really a fan of the Cowboys. If you are pretend not to be. It'll be better for you the Cowboys and me.

I don't post for the reaction, I post to get the truth out and so if no one responds, I don't get upset
as you have suggested...if "Cowboys fans" want to live in the alternate reality of head up butt

Go fore it! as I said before I like reading the writing on the wall ahead of time
in the end I'm not the one scrambling around, wondering what happened????
all butt hurt they couldn't get past an expectation that was never meant to be

 

[DFWJC]

Are you happy now?

Regardless of the Cowboy's topic, he will be nagative

I get the impression from some of his posts, that he sees a 5-11 season

 

[silver]

Fitzpatrick is still out there. If he could come to his senses and accept a back up role here we would be much improved at the backup position. Others like Nick Foles or Sam Bradford could become available at some point too if their respective rookie teammates grab the starting job. The key will be if we're wiling to pay a realistic backup QB salary. Nobody is coming here for a Weeden/Moore type salary.

 

[DFWJC]

Fitzpatrick is still out there. If he could come to his senses and accept a back up role here we would be much improved at the backup position. Others like Nick Foles or Sam Bradford could become available at some point too if their respective rookie teammates grab the starting job. The key will be if we're wiling to pay a realistic backup QB salary. Nobody is coming here for a Weeden/Moore type salary.

I'd be really shocked if Fitz is a Cowboy this year.
Now if Romo got hurt afloat again, that might change.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Fitzpatrick is still out there. If he could come to his senses and accept a back up role here we would be much improved at the backup position. Others like Nick Foles or Sam Bradford could become available at some point too if their respective rookie teammates grab the starting job. The key will be if we're wiling to pay a realistic backup QB salary. Nobody is coming here for a Weeden/Moore type salary.

Former Bills and Jets QB Ryan Fitzpatrick??? you've peeked my interest
tell us more

 

[DandyDon52]

Garrett doesn't call the plays in Dallas. Not that what you're describing actually happens, anyway.

He doesnt have to, what he was refering to , is JG's playcalling system, which went by down and distance, and certain plays were called
in those situations,or a group of plays for each situation.
JG still is involved in the offense, and we still mostly use his playbook, so linehan may be using JG's down and distance system
when calling plays.

However Romo may not follow that like a bkup would, and whenever Romo makes time on a oass play, it is no longer the standard play
it becomes ad lib.

That is part of why when romo wasnt playing the offense did so poorly. It isnt just the skill of the QB.
The other thing is aside from Romo only Moore knew the offense well enough to read defense and run the right play, or the right
throw.
Cassell had very limited time to learn, and that hurt him, and weedon was maybe restricted too much, plus he just goes with the
first option, and whatever was called.

 

[DandyDon52]

When this happens not if.. And Moore becomes a turnover machine. I'm curious to see if the coaching staff adapts the playbook to Prescott. Or will they try to fit a square peg in a round hole.

square peg in a round hole lol

 

[DandyDon52]

I'm excited to see what Moore does in the pre-season.

yeah me too, he does need to look good though.

 

[Idgit]

He doesnt have to, what he was refering to , is JG's playcalling system, which went by down and distance, and certain plays were called
in those situations,or a group of plays for each situation.
JG still is involved in the offense, and we still mostly use his playbook, so linehan may be using JG's down and distance system
when calling plays.

However Romo may not follow that like a bkup would, and whenever Romo makes time on a oass play, it is no longer the standard play
it becomes ad lib.

That is part of why when romo wasnt playing the offense did so poorly. It isnt just the skill of the QB.
The other thing is aside from Romo only Moore knew the offense well enough to read defense and run the right play, or the right
throw.
Cassell had very limited time to learn, and that hurt him, and weedon was maybe restricted too much, plus he just goes with the
first option, and whatever was called.

That's a fairly tortuted set of assumptions.

Linehan calls the plays. Almost every play they run has sight reads that vary where the ball goes based off of what the defense does. Multiple variants, both run and pass. The offense is effective and has been the entire time people have been complaining about how productive it isn't.

Cassel's problem wasn't familiarity with the offense. He wasn't careful with the football, including throws to covered receivers at the sideline that burned us multiple times. Weeden wasn't adept at throwing players open, but he otherwise took better care of the ball. His limitations were in terms of his skill set and not his familiarity with the offense. Or any limitations of the scheme.

Either way, our problems are not on offense. We've had defensive limitations for years that nobody around here ever wants to consider the giant limitation they've actually been.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did The Cowboys Improve At Backup Quarterback?

Better question might be, did they get worse? Probably not.

 

[CF74]

I mean, we have a backup QB that is a ST's head hunter...

 

[Doomsay]

Yes.

We have a young guy with upside in the position whereas we didn't have that before.

If your starting qb goes down for an extended period of time 9 times out of 10 you're going to have a bad time.

I think people exaggerate the backup level talent around the league.

Whoops, blown litmus test, it was never even a real question.