Free Agent Pass Rushers

[gmoney112]

You're using wrong criteria... Not that wanting a guy to have 10-12 sacks is the wrong thing.

The challenge is this defense isn't going to give guys 900 snaps in order to accumulate that number of sacks.

Collins led the defensive line in snaps at 656.

What the Cowboys are looking for is 5 or 6 guys getting between 5 & 8 sacks... Which is "Seattle-like".

Mayowa had 6 sacks in only 381 snaps, which is a very good ratio.

Addison played 433 snaps. On 294 pass rushing snaps he had 9.5 sacks, 5 hits, and 51 total qb pressures. Had his best season in run defense. I don't really care about PFF grading but 2nd in pass rushing productivity last year for 4-3 DE. Numbers are pretty good though.

It's not abnormal for a guy to hit a groove a little later in his career, it'll actually keep his price down. Will he get overpaid? Yeah, probably. But it's going to be more like Ayers than Vernon.

But he's exactly the type of guy that we can use in this "rotation" in our scheme. He's a good player.

 

[CCBoy]

Looks like a dental waiting room...

I'd be content with DeMarcus Ware and Calais Campbell being added for two year contracts. Then re-sign a bunch for returning to the secondary.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yes on Nick Perry.

If Addison is a pass rush specialist, then Mayowa would have to be the starter. He's not the ideal guy to be a run down type player.

I guess they could keep DLaw as the starter at RDE with Addison as the pass rush specialist DLaw could move to LDE on some snaps when Addison is in the game. That would leave Mayowa without a spot.

I'm not sure that Sheard is much of an upgrade.

Datone Jones and Devin Taylor would be another LDEs, but they need a RDE.

Melvin Ingram might be possible but his size is borderline.

Ingram could be a Leo here. Stand up on run downs and put his hand in the dirt on passing downs. We have had some interest in these types the past few years

Sheard is a very good player, but he's alot of what we already have. Not a guy who is going to threaten the edge every down

 

[Silverstar]

Nick Perry is probably the best choice IMO, but he'll want big money after posting 12 sacks including playoffs.

If he can play SLB on 1st and 2nd down and DE on passing downs it might justify it.

Could he handle it and would Marinelli even use him like that?

 

[JW82]

Great player but not the 4-3 end we need.

His PFR AV Grades the last 3 years:
15
13
16

According to their grading metric, Campbell was one of best DLMen in the league last year.

I don't think we had DL to score over a 8 or 9.

 

[Idgit]

Realistically, I'd take Addison. He'll probably still rank #1 on the team in sacks with 400-500 snaps. He'd help with getting off the field on third down.

On defense I'd sign Addison/Tony Jefferson/Carr, resign whoever else, and go into the draft.

This is a realistic plan. I'd be very happy with this. Especially if Smith makes it back. We'd have added a quality new starter at each level of the defense. If we flip Romo for a 2nd and add two new DLs from the top three picks to go with Tapper, we'll have upgraded the defensive roster a fair bit without gambling the cap.

 

[visionary]

Nick Perry
Mario Addison
Jabaal Sheard
Datone Jones
Devin Taylor

How I'd rank the guys we most likely have a realistic shot at....not very encouraging. Do any of them give us a bigger impact than Benny Mayowa did?

Give me DT in FA like Logan/Poe
Draft Harris at 28

 

[visionary]

Maybe, maybe not.

But I'm interested in seeing what Mario Addison or DeMarcus Ware could do playing in a rotation with Benson Mayowa at RDE.

You may not get double digits sacks from either one, but together they would get 10+ sacks and plenty of QB pressures.

Rob Marinelli wants to rotate 8 DL during games, but we've never had two worthy RDEs on the roster at the same time.

Don't agree at all

We already have Lawrence and Tapper who have major injury concerns so I'm not at all interested in paying another old guy with an injury history

We need to upgrade significantly with at least one impact player for the next 3-4 year window in DL not shop at the bargain bin

 

[noshame]

I want a pocket collapsing DT.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Nick Perry is probably the best choice IMO, but he'll want big money after posting 12 sacks including playoffs.

If he can play SLB on 1st and 2nd down and DE on passing downs it might justify it.

Could he handle it and would Marinelli even use him like that?

Wouldn't fly.

The normal defense features 2 LB's and not 3. And those guys will be Lee and probably Smith.

If Perry can't be a 400-500 snap DE, he wouldn't be coming to Dallas.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I want a pocket collapsing DT.

You have one in Collins.

T Crawford & Irving will both probably get a lot of snaps at DT and they're decent pass rushers too.

Pass rush from the DT spot isn't the big problem.

 

[Tabascocat]

Since the DE's are suspect, I would push hard for Smart or Poe to plug the middle. We have to improve somewhere on the line.......

 

[Hardline]

I would want JPP if he had 2 fully functioning hands.

 

[Bluefin]

Addison is going to get at least 3x the amount of guaranteed $ Mayowa did. Easily in this thin FA class.

He deserves whatever he can get.

Mario Addison has averaged over 7 sacks the past three seasons playing as a reserve.

If the Dallas Cowboys believe Addison can be a Rushman and help the defense, get his name on a contract.

And you're still completely miscalculating how many DT's will be on the roster.

Not at all.

I'd love to end up with a 53 man roster that has 10 DL on it, that's what needed to run this scheme effectively.

RDE: Benson Mayowa, veteran free agent, rookie draft pick
NT: Cedric Thornton, rookie draft pick/undrafted player
UT: Maliek Collins, Tyrone Crawford
LDE: DeMarcus Lawrence, David Irving, Charles Tapper

Suspended: Randy Gregory

I look at the Nickel as the base defense, so Collins and Crawford will actually be playing inside together more snaps than not. Thornton will play less than those two, but more than we saw last season as he adjusted to our scheme. The second NT would be inactive for games.

Mayowa and the free agent would rotate at RDE with Lawrence and Irving doing the same on the left. Irving would also take some snaps inside.

Tapper and the rookie DE would be fighting to get a jersey every week as 8 of the 10 will dress.

This would have 5 players rotating at DE and 4 at DT during games.

I'd still want 2-3 more DL on the practice squad.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Since the DE's are suspect, I would push hard for Smart or Poe to plug the middle. We have to improve somewhere on the line.......

This team was decent against the run. I don't see the need for Smart or Poe, not too mention the cost is going to be exorbitant.

I'd rather see that money spent on DE's like Addision or Sheard.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

He deserves whatever he can get.

Mario Addison has averaged over 7 sacks the past three seasons playing as a reserve.

If the Dallas Cowboys believe Addison can be a Rushman and help the defense, get his name on a contract.



Not at all.

I'd love to end up with a 53 man roster that has 10 DL on it, that's what needed to run this scheme effectively.

RDE: Benson Mayowa, veteran free agent, rookie draft pick
NT: Cedric Thornton, rookie draft pick/undrafted player
UT: Maliek Collins, Tyrone Crawford
LDE: DeMarcus Lawrence, David Irving, Charles Tapper

Suspended: Randy Gregory

I look at the Nickel as the base defense, so Collins and Crawford will actually be playing inside together more snaps than not. Thornton will play less than those two, but more than we saw last season as he adjusted to our scheme. The second NT would be inactive for games.

Mayowa and the free agent would rotate at RDE with Lawrence and Irving doing the same on the left. Irving would also take some snaps inside.

Tapper and the rookie DE would be fighting to get a jersey every week as 8 of the 10 will dress.

This would have 5 players rotating at DE and 4 at DT during games.

I'd still want 2-3 more DL on the practice squad.

I'd consider Irving a DT also.

I think he's more of a fit there than as a 4-3 DE.

 

[Tabascocat]

This team was decent against the run. I don't see the need for Smart or Poe, not too mention the cost is going to be exorbitant.

I'd rather see that money spent on DE's like Addision or Sheard.

Me too but this is assuming that Dallas doesn't get a DE free agent. I don't want to go into the next season with the same Ends and a questionable DE draft pick.

If that is what happens, make the middle stronger IMO.

 

[tm1119]

He deserves whatever he can get.

Mario Addison has averaged over 7 sacks the past three seasons playing as a reserve.

If the Dallas Cowboys believe Addison can be a Rushman and help the defense, get his name on a contract.



Not at all.

I'd love to end up with a 53 man roster that has 10 DL on it, that's what needed to run this scheme effectively.

RDE: Benson Mayowa, veteran free agent, rookie draft pick
NT: Cedric Thornton, rookie draft pick/undrafted player
UT: Maliek Collins, Tyrone Crawford
LDE: DeMarcus Lawrence, David Irving, Charles Tapper

Suspended: Randy Gregory

I look at the Nickel as the base defense, so Collins and Crawford will actually be playing inside together more snaps than not. Thornton will play less than those two, but more than we saw last season as he adjusted to our scheme. The second NT would be inactive for games.

Mayowa and the free agent would rotate at RDE with Lawrence and Irving doing the same on the left. Irving would also take some snaps inside.

Tapper and the rookie DE would be fighting to get a jersey every week as 8 of the 10 will dress.

This would have 5 players rotating at DE and 4 at DT during games.

I'd still want 2-3 more DL on the practice squad.

And that's still little to no snaps for Tapper, 1 of Crawford/Irving, and the high rookie draft pick...

But we'll just agree to disagree here since we're just going in circles. I want to actually build the D line. You want to keep throwing bodies at it hoping something sticks in my opinion. I'd much rather see Irving, a 1st/2nd round pick, and Tapper get as many snaps as possible to develop and grow then see a an overpaid marginal vet FA demand starter snaps every week.

 

[Bluefin]

I'd consider Irving a DT also.

I think he's more of a fit there than as a 4-3 DE.

Me, too.

I just think David Irving will take more snaps outside than inside, so I list him as a LDE.

Ideally, I'd love to see a game rotation of Benson Mayowa, veteran free agent, DeMarcus Lawrence, David Irving and Charles Tapper or a rookie draft pick at DE. The interior rotation would include Maliek Collins, Tyrone Crawford, Cedric Thornton and Irving.

That's eight active DL for games with five rotating on the outside and four on the inside.

My other two DL would be inactive for games.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Me, too.

I just think David Irving will take more snaps outside than inside, so I list him as a LDE.

Ideally, I'd love to see a game rotation of Benson Mayowa, veteran free agent, DeMarcus Lawrence, David Irving and Charles Tapper or a rookie draft pick at DE. The interior rotation would include Maliek Collins, Tyrone Crawford, Cedric Thornton and Irving.

That's eight active DL for games with five rotating on the outside and four on the inside.

My other two DL would be inactive for games.

Can't disagree with any of that.