Cowboys got beat by greatness

I didn't read through this entire thread, but you don't need greatness to beat the Cowboys.

With this coaching staff, mediocre is often sufficient.
 
We don't have a good enough defense to beat greatness . We're struggling to beat average to above average teams with this defense.

And helping them out with brain dead playcalling.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
They could have called time out after a stop on 2nd down . Then we could have thrown on 3rd and 2.

And not had it for their game-winning drive.

I'll let you answer this:

To who's advantage would that be?
 
They could have called time out after a stop on 2nd down . Then we could have thrown on 3rd and 2.

Yeah, their last time out. Which they instead used, and needed, on their last drive.

After moving the ball, the Packers had an incompletion on 1st and 10 with 39 seconds to go. On 2nd down, they actually ran the ball for 2 yards. They then used their last time out. If they didn't have a time out, they'd have been forced to make a decision on that 3rd and 8......... quickly try to call a play to get a first down or spike the ball. But the timeout gave them the chance to regroup, etc. Having that timeout gave them the luxury of being able to make certain calls on that drive that they probably would not have made without it.

So at the very least, the Cowboys should have forced the Packers to use their timeout on our last drive. Instead, our coaching staff decided that it might be best to call a play with a high chance it would result in a gift of an extra timeout for the Packers.

Well done.
 
It was a good game as would be expected but going for the points when their there isn't bad coaching
especially when you look at how much time they did take off the clock

I wasn't even referring to the play calling and management on our last drive. I was referring to how Marinellis defense is so easy to figure out, gets no pressure, coverages are obvious, and even most marginal QBs figure it out and parade down the field like the University of Alabama playing against a high school team. Here's an idea, get creative. Blitz a corner, mix up the coverage, take a blitz...I've seen more creativity and variety playing Tecmobowl.
Im not sure this staff could win with our 1990s teams
 
Great coaches don't have to wish for as many plays back as bad ones. We don't have a great coach. That's pretty obvious at this point.

And great coaches don't make the same mistakes over and over and over again. Even mediocre ones don't, for that matter.
 
They could have called time out after a stop on 2nd down . Then we could have thrown on 3rd and 2.

You run again on 3rd and 2, and again on 4th and 2 if necessary. And no, losing that way would not have been more frustrating. If you need to win a game, the best odds are to let your studs win it. If they can't, you simply aren't good enough. If GB could stop Zeke 3 times in a row, and it's possible they might, I'd shake their hand and say good job and move on.

If your option is to give Rodgers 1:13 and a timeout to beat this defense, I turn the TV off and go clean my lint screen because the outcome of that is about as sure as anything in sport can be.
 
You run again on 3rd and 2, and again on 4th and 2 if necessary. And no, losing that way would not have been more frustrating. If you need to win a game, the best odds are to let your studs win it. If they can't, you simply aren't good enough. If GB could stop Zeke 3 times in a row, and it's possible they might, I'd shake their hand and say good job and move on.

If your option is to give Rodgers 1:13 and a timeout to beat this defense, I turn the TV off and go clean my lint screen because the outcome of that is about as sure as anything in sport can be.

Yep. Going a step further, the Cowboys coaches didn't even force the Packers to have to make a decision as to when or if they should use their last time out. That fade pass on 2nd down was a massive gift to the Packers coaching staff.
 
ARLINGTON, Texas – Sometimes, you just get beat.
As simple as it sounds, sometimes that’s really all you can say.

Sure, we can all go back and pick out a play or three that would’ve made things much different as the Cowboys head into the bye week. Man, 2-3 and 3-2 seems much bigger than just a one-game difference. And when you consider how close it was for the Cowboys to be on the winning side of this back-and-forth affair, it makes the pill even tougher to swallow.

But the fact is, the Packers just made one more play, and in this league, sometimes that’s all that matters.

We could argue if the Packers were simply the better team. Hmm, maybe. But if they lined it up again and played another game, who knows what happens.

Maybe the Cowboys’ starting receiver doesn’t drop another pass that leads to a touchdown.

Maybe the officials don’t call two different plays on a sack down at the 2-yard line.

Maybe an odd personal foul penalty isn’t called in the end zone that gives the Cowboys another shot at a touchdown.
This game had all kinds of weird plays, but it comes down to the end, and the Packers have Aaron Rodgers. If you haven’t noticed, he’s pretty great.

There’s no reason to oversimplify it. Regardless of whether the outcome of this game made you excited, proud, confused or flat-out sick to your stomach (and judging by the tone of my Twitter feed I’m going to say it’s probably the latter), this was a great football game.

Yes, it would’ve been greater for the Cowboys had they been able to win, but when you’re facing the best quarterback in the land, you can’t give him a chance to beat you in the end.

He had that chance, and he took advantage. But it makes no sense to sit here and second-guess the Cowboys’ decision-making on their final touchdown drive.

Do it if you want to because that’s the world we live in. Everyone is a Monday Morning Quarterback and some of them get a head start Sunday night. Personally, I’m not going there. Yeah, we’re critical of the Cowboys and some questionable coaching decisions. But I don’t think that’s fair in this game.

In the press box after the game, I’m hearing media members say that Jason Garrett got outcoached. I just don’t see it.

With about a minute to play in the game, the Cowboys are trailing and need a touchdown. Yeah, you can play the game of trying to bleed the clock as well – and for the most part they did – but at some point you have to make sure you score a touchdown. Down by four points, the Cowboys’ primary goal is to get the six points at all costs. Getting cute and trying to take off the time and then not scoring would’ve been ridiculous. And we all know that.

Yes, I was like everyone else in the stadium –including the fan in the front row who flagged me down and yelled, “Nick, too much time!” – and figured Rodgers would easily have plenty of time to move the ball down the field and just get a field goal and maybe more. Because of the two quick 14-yard gains, the Packers had a shot for more.

But as I said to myself on the field right before the Cowboys were kicking the ball off with 1:13 to play – this is the NFL. This is a professional defense. No matter who the quarterback is, your job is to go out and win the game.

The offense has just put up 31 points on the board and handed you the lead with a minute to go. Just stop them.
Yes, stop them. Go out and play professional football and make a stop. They couldn’t do that.

Again, I’m not putting this on the defense entirely. That group was gutty and played well at times. It was ironic that rookie Jourdan Lewis gave up the final touchdown because he might very well be the best cornerback on this team – right now. I’m not saying he’s got the most upside. I’m saying he’s the best they’ve got.

And yet, you could tell Rodgers was targeting him in the final seconds.

Thinking of those final throws reminds me of just how terrible the officials were in this game – and for both teams. Yes, Cowboys fans lost the game so they’re going to think it was all against them. But the officials had a rough day, starting with a bogus penalty in the end zone on Packers linebacker Blake Martinez that gave the Cowboys a new set of downs and eventually a touchdown. Terrible call there.

Just like the one later in the game when the officials weren’t on the same page on what should’ve been either a sack by DeMarcus Lawrence or an incomplete pass. But roughing the passer shouldn’t have been the call – regardless if God was throwing the ball back there.
That takes me to the end. But you know if Lewis had been the receiver and Davante Adams was the corner, every yellow flag this side of the Mississippi would’ve been thrown for pass interference. It’s a shame that Lewis didn’t get that call for offensive P.I. because those 15 yards would’ve certainly put this game into overtime – assuming the suddenly-erratic Mason Crosby would’ve made the tying field goal.

But that was just another odd call in a game full of them.
Again, not blaming the officials nor the Cowboys’ defense, offense or coaching staff.

They got Aaron Rodgers’d. It happens.
Just seems to happen a lot in this stadium and against this team.



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So Jared Goff is "greatness"? Lol
Just stop with the excuses for this inept FO and coaching staff starting with the HC
They are the reason we lost not "greatness "
 
You run again on 3rd and 2, and again on 4th and 2 if necessary. And no, losing that way would not have been more frustrating. If you need to win a game, the best odds are to let your studs win it. If they can't, you simply aren't good enough. If GB could stop Zeke 3 times in a row, and it's possible they might, I'd shake their hand and say good job and move on.

If your option is to give Rodgers 1:13 and a timeout to beat this defense, I turn the TV off and go clean my lint screen because the outcome of that is about as sure as anything in sport can be.

Absolutely right. If they stop you near the goal, you tip your hat to the D. But everyone, and I mean everyone, on this board knew what was going to happen when we gave Rodgers the ball with over a minute to go and a TO in his pocket. The absolute best we could have hoped for was overtime AND hope we win the toss to get the ball first. The coaches should have known it and Dak should have known it.
 
Yep. Going a step further, the Cowboys coaches didn't even force the Packers to have to make a decision as to when or if they should use their last time out. That fade pass on 2nd down was a massive gift to the Packers coaching staff.

It was huge and it cost the game. Had we run on 2nd and 2 and Zek scored from 12 yards out, then we're not having this conversation; you take the score and hope for the best. But to give them so much time and a TO when it was in our control, it's just inexcusable. And don't forget Dak not running the playclock down on the 2nd down play. There were some bad decisions all the way around.
 
That headline screams "cop out" to me. It's as if nothing the Cowboys did could've stopped the inevitable.

They managed the clock, they played solid defense, and "greatness" just got them. Yeah, sure. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, their last time out. Which they instead used, and needed, on their last drive.

After moving the ball, the Packers had an incompletion on 1st and 10 with 39 seconds to go. On 2nd down, they actually ran the ball for 2 yards. They then used their last time out. If they didn't have a time out, they'd have been forced to make a decision on that 3rd and 8......... quickly try to call a play to get a first down or spike the ball. But the timeout gave them the chance to regroup, etc. Having that timeout gave them the luxury of being able to make certain calls on that drive that they probably would not have made without it.

So at the very least, the Cowboys should have forced the Packers to use their timeout on our last drive. Instead, our coaching staff decided that it might be best to call a play with a high chance it would result in a gift of an extra timeout for the Packers.

Well done.
Again , I understand but I think it's nickpicking.
 
That headline screams "cop out" to me. It's as if nothing the Cowboys did could've stopped the inevitable.

They managed the clock, they played solid defense, and "greatness" just got them. Yeah, sure. :rolleyes:
Our defense could have stopped it and had a great chance on a key 3rd down to at least force a FG attempt.

To put it all on one questionable call in a very impressive 9 minute potential game winning drive is agenda driven IMO.
 
So Jared Goff is "greatness"? Lol
Just stop with the excuses for this inept FO and coaching staff starting with the HC
They are the reason we lost not "greatness "
No, I'm just discussing this particular games greatness.

I don't recall Goff performing magic on a game winning drive in the last minute to win.

But yea, our defense is suspect . Only 2nd time in NFL history a home team has scored 30 points or more at home and lost in consecutive games.
 
You run again on 3rd and 2, and again on 4th and 2 if necessary. And no, losing that way would not have been more frustrating. If you need to win a game, the best odds are to let your studs win it. If they can't, you simply aren't good enough. If GB could stop Zeke 3 times in a row, and it's possible they might, I'd shake their hand and say good job and move on.

If your option is to give Rodgers 1:13 and a timeout to beat this defense, I turn the TV off and go clean my lint screen because the outcome of that is about as sure as anything in sport can be.
You'd of been more comfortable without any criticism on play calling losing the game ending on a 4th down attempt running the ball than losing how we did?
 
Again , I understand but I think it's nickpicking.

It's not nitpicking when it's a huge call at a crucial part of the game. It's not nitpicking when it's a call that could easily have been avoided given the situation.

IN other words, yet again, at the end of a game, Garrett and company make a peculiar decision.
 
You'd of been more comfortable without any criticism on play calling losing the game ending on a 4th down attempt running the ball than losing how we did?

Yup. I'm fine with putting our fate in Zeke and OLs hand.

It's why I've never really argued about the Dez catch. Making that throw was stupid. We score there and we lose the game, period. There was ZERO chance we score there and win that game. ZERO. Romo should have dumped that pass to Bease, got the first down, and tried to milk the remaining clock. It was our only hope, and he should have known that. And I'm a Romosexual.
 
It's not nitpicking when it's a huge call at a crucial part of the game. It's not nitpicking when it's a call that could easily have been avoided given the situation.

IN other words, yet again, at the end of a game, Garrett and company make a peculiar decision.

Peculiar is a peculiar word to use there!
 
You'd of been more comfortable without any criticism on play calling losing the game ending on a 4th down attempt running the ball than losing how we did?

I'm sorry but if you think that pass to Bryant had a higher chance of completion than Zeke getting 2 yards for a first down then you either were not watching the game or don't know football or are (most likely) just making excuses
 

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