Is Dak on Wentz level or bus driver?

[CATCH17]

Man I would love us to beat the Eagles in 2 weeks. And without Zeke too. lol

We can do it.

 

[rwalters31]

We find out over next 6 weeks. I know the loss of Zeke hurts but it allows Cowboys to truly know what they have at QB & even Rod Smith. It also puts some responsibility on WRs who I think have gone silent for long stretches. Alot of answers coming.

So far I would have Dak to be more like Goff, Wentz is still operating at a level above those two. But you are right that if Dak will be in Wentz's league the next six weeks will tell.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Hate it all you want. I didn't post it to win your admiration. I posted it because it's true.

Stop. Stop right now and just be a man. That was a garbage post that you should be embarrassed for it.

So I can say Dallas has a better recipe for playoff success. I can say that I think Dallas can still win the division. I can say Dallas has the more talented roster. But if I just compare one position on the two teams and say Dak has been fantastic but Wentz has been better you respond with "Dont book your SB tickets". Are you going to be a man and be objective or just fight everything that is in Phillys favor. Its only acceptable if I say Dallas is better and every single posittion. THats just garbage. Man up dude.
This year Wentz has been much better. And its not me saying that. Its everyone saying that. And Im not even knocking Dak cause hes been fantastic.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Lol! We can see your tail wagging in between the protests to the contrary.

Don't come here and try to shovel how your guy might one day be the best QB in the entire league and is an MVP shoe-in according to "experts" where our guy 'will never be that,'and then try to tell me how moderate your expectations are out of the other side of your mouth.

You're guy's not even necessarily the better QB *this* year. With half a season left to play.

Wentz hasnt been better this year. Yeah... thats being objective. Maybe you can write Sports Illustrated and rip them for there 18 man panel on who the MVP is...
MVP
1. Carson Wentz, Philadelphia: 79 points (9 first-place votes)
2. Tom Brady, New England: 77 (8 first-place votes)
3. Alex Smith, Kansas City: 43 (1 first-place vote)
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans: 18
5. Russell Wilson, Seattle: 17
6. Deshaun Watson, Houston: 12
7. Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh: 8
8(tie). Todd Gurley, L.A. Rams: 3
8(tie). Kareem Hunt, Kansas City: 3
8(tie). Matthew Stafford, Detroit: 3
11(tie). Jared Goff, L.A. Rams: 3
11(tie). Travis Kelce, Kansas City: 3
13(tie). Calais Campbell, Jacksonville: 1
13(tie). Fletcher Cox, Philadelphia: 1
13(tie). Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets: 1

 

[RJ_MacReady]

LOL..why would you join a rival team's forum? What..is the Wentz circle jerk over on "www.zero-lombardis.com" hitting critical mass?

 

[jdaz123]

For the love of whatever higher being you believe in, quit acting like Wentz is doing this all on his own. His defense is much better than Dak's. His run game is right behind Dallas. His WR's are right on par, too. I don't get this false narrative that Wentz has nothing around him.

Dak has been better in every aspect so far in their careers.

Wait? What?? See the problem with this statement post is that no one THIS YEAR said Wentz was doing it on his own. They do depend more on him and pass attempts alone, last year and this year, bear out this fact. But, they have upgraded the offense THIS YEAR and hence the improvement.
But then you go and say that Dak has been better in every aspect through their careers which obviously takes into account 1 complete season and 1 partial season. How about this? We stop all comparisons until next offseason.

You guys are really worked up for some reason. Hmmm. I'm trying to figure out why the angst tonight. That Haley guy calling for "and end to his miserable life" He's a peach, a real credit to society.

 

[EaglesFan1]

LOL..why would you join a rival team's forum? What..is the Wentz circle jerk over on "www.zero-lombardis.com" hitting critical mass?

To talk football. I guess you prefer it to be all Cowboy fans with no opposing views. I heard about this board on the Eagles NFL board and thought I'd come check out whats going on with our biggest rival.

 

[Miller]

Dak as a rookie and 2nd year showed he’s WAY more than just an average QB. Who cares about Wentz? Dak has shown a ton of greatness without comparison.

 

[AzorAhai]

This thread is soooo bad it brought an actual, verified Eagles fans into it to debate.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

To talk football. I guess you prefer it to be all Cowboy fans with no opposing views. I heard about this board on the Eagles NFL board and thought I'd come check out whats going on with our biggest rival.

What you and your buddy jdaz123 is talk football? No. You just want to talk-up your team and your guys on a rival team's forum. Are you looking for some kind of acceptance or something?

If you guys do end up leaving, we have about 4 or 5 closeted Eagles fans you need to take with you.

 

[EaglesFan1]

What you and your buddy jdaz123 is talk football? No. You just want to talk-up your team and your guys on a rival team's forum. Are you looking for some kind of acceptance or something?

If you guys do end up leaving, we have about 4 or 5 closeted Eagles fans you need to take with you.

I dont know who jdaz is. Just joined 2 nights ago. I didnt talk up my team at all if you read my posts. I actually said they have holes, they arent as good as their record, Dallas is built better for the playoffs. Thats "talk-up" my team? Yeah, Im really looking for acceptance being an Eagle fan on a Cowboy board. YOu sound like one of those guys who have never been in Texas once in their life but somehow is a Cowboy fan.

 

[blindzebra]

Wentz hasnt been better this year. Yeah... thats being objective. Maybe you can write Sports Illustrated and rip them for there 18 man panel on who the MVP is...
MVP
1. Carson Wentz, Philadelphia: 79 points (9 first-place votes)
2. Tom Brady, New England: 77 (8 first-place votes)
3. Alex Smith, Kansas City: 43 (1 first-place vote)
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans: 18
5. Russell Wilson, Seattle: 17
6. Deshaun Watson, Houston: 12
7. Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh: 8
8(tie). Todd Gurley, L.A. Rams: 3
8(tie). Kareem Hunt, Kansas City: 3
8(tie). Matthew Stafford, Detroit: 3
11(tie). Jared Goff, L.A. Rams: 3
11(tie). Travis Kelce, Kansas City: 3
13(tie). Calais Campbell, Jacksonville: 1
13(tie). Fletcher Cox, Philadelphia: 1
13(tie). Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets: 1

Prescott 8 games:
62.9% 1818 yrds, 16 TD, 4 INT
195 yrds 4 TDs 0 FMB

Average game: 227.25 yards, 2 TDs, .5 INT
24.38, .5 TDs, 0 FMB

Wentz 9 Games:
60.5 2262 yards, 23 TDs, 5 INTs
211 yards, 0 TDs, 2 FMB
Average game: 251.3 Yards, 2.5 TDs, .6 INTs
23.4 yards. 0 TDs, .22 FMB

Prescott accounts for 251.63 yards, 2.5 TDs, .5 turnovers

Wentz accounts for 274.7 yards, 2.5 TDs, .82 turnovers

So where is this huge gap for Wentz? Same TDs per game, Dak fewer turnovers, Wentz plus 23 yards.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

YOu sound like one of those guys who have never been in Texas once in their life but somehow is a Cowboy fan.

Born and raised in Haltom City, TX. Don't worry, I'm not going to ask what back-alley in Philly you were born in..don't care.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Prescott 8 games:
62.9% 1818 yrds, 16 TD, 4 INT
195 yrds 4 TDs 0 FMB

Average game: 227.25 yards, 2 TDs, .5 INT
24.38, .5 TDs, 0 FMB

Wentz 9 Games:
60.5 2262 yards, 23 TDs, 5 INTs
211 yards, 0 TDs, 2 FMB
Average game: 251.3 Yards, 2.5 TDs, .6 INTs
23.4 yards. 0 TDs, .22 FMB

Prescott accounts for 251.63 yards, 2.5 TDs, .5 turnovers

Wentz accounts for 274.7 yards, 2.5 TDs, .82 turnovers

So where is this huge gap for Wentz? Same TDs per game, Dak fewer turnovers, Wentz plus 23 yards.

I never said there was a huge gap. We can bring up a bunch of other stats like QBR, 3rd down efficiency. You going to argue only with me or you going to send emails to that 18 person panel who voted Wentz as the MVP so far and didnt have Dak in the top 15. How come you forgot this stat 8-1 vs 5-3

 

[jdaz123]

What you and your buddy jdaz123 is talk football? No. You just want to talk-up your team and your guys on a rival team's forum. Are you looking for some kind of acceptance or something?

If you guys do end up leaving, we have about 4 or 5 closeted Eagles fans you need to take with you.

No, I think those 4 or 5 Cowboy fans are just more real, honest and objective, non koolaid slurpers, compared to many of you. You guys act like this is a turf war. It's an internet forum. And so far Corso is the ONLY cowboy fan who has tried to talk football. The rest have been in total defense mode. Your more than welcome to go over to www.philadelphiaeagles.com and talk football. Most will respect you as long as you there to talk about football. It might even give you some perspective. We'll gladly take those 4 or 5 cowboy fans too. Honestly, they need a little more perspective over on the Eagles forum too. Isn't football fun?

 

[River82]

Isn't football fun?

No. Like a drug we crave it but we don't enjoy it, and if we were more creative we'd think of a way to light it up and smoke it.

 

[blindzebra]

I never said there was a huge gap. We can bring up a bunch of other stats like QBR, 3rd down efficiency. You going to argue only with me or you going to send emails to that 18 person panel who voted Wentz as the MVP so far and didnt have Dak in the top 15. How come you forgot this stat 8-1 vs 5-3

Trade defenses and those records would flip and you know it.

 

[jdaz123]

No. Like a drug we crave it but we don't enjoy it, and if we were more creative we'd think of a way to light it up and smoke it.

LOL that's funny.

 

[blindzebra]

I never said there was a huge gap. We can bring up a bunch of other stats like QBR, 3rd down efficiency. You going to argue only with me or you going to send emails to that 18 person panel who voted Wentz as the MVP so far and didnt have Dak in the top 15. How come you forgot this stat 8-1 vs 5-3

Sure lets bring up total QBR:

Dak Prescott, DAL 32.0 31.8 16.8 2.4 54.0 320 80.5 78.4
Carson Wentz, PHI 27.3 36.6 8.2 3.8 57.8 381 73.4 71.7

 

[bodi]

give Wentz our O LINE