Long term, who are the potential cuts this offseason?

[erod]

Everybody in that locker room answers to Jason Witten. He outworks them, demands a lot from them, but he also befriends them and protects them.

Dak WORSHIPS him.

Demarco Murray's advice to players when he was leaving..."Follow Jason Witten everywhere he goes, and do everything he does." Murray credits Witten for teaching him for making him a top RB.

Think long and hard before you eliminate that from the locker room. There's not another one like him.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Bye bye Crawford! If not this offseason then definitely next. Hope they upgrade from Mayowa somehow too...this DL is a decent weakside pass rusher away from really being great.

 

[LittleD]

If after the last three seasons (including this one), he isn't willing to take a paycut, then that's fine - he can be shown the door, also.

Again, I want Dez on this team, but his current/recent production to pay ratio is asinine.

You can want in one hand and "you know what" in the other and see which hand fills up faster!

 

[SDCowboy]

You can want in one hand and "you know what" in the other and see which hand fills up faster!

lol Hey I'm not saying it will happen. It's mostly just wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Nightman]

And that's my point about emotion. Paying Witten $6.5MM is an emotional, poor choice on a team that should be looking to create cap space to get a few key free agents in here to supplement the roster and 2018 draft.

I love Witten. I love the Cowboys more. Witten being cut or taking a huge pay cut is better for the team.

Witten is not retiring this close to a SB run

He won't take a pay cut either ....... the best we can hope for is a restructure and a Hanna cut

That will save 6-7m against the cap...... leaves us with Witten- Swaim- Gathers- Jarwin

 

[Sydla]

Everybody in that locker room answers to Jason Witten. He outworks them, demands a lot from them, but he also befriends them and protects them.

Dak WORSHIPS him.

Demarco Murray's advice to players when he was leaving..."Follow Jason Witten everywhere he goes, and do everything he does." Murray credits Witten for teaching him for making him a top RB.

Think long and hard before you eliminate that from the locker room. There's not another one like him.

Great. Make him a coach.

People overvalue these things. And certainly his leadership isn't worth almost 7MM in salary next year for production that has significantly declined.

 

[Sydla]

Bye bye Crawford! If not this offseason then definitely next. Hope they upgrade from Mayowa somehow too...this DL is a decent weakside pass rusher away from really being great.

Crawford saves you squat cutting him in 2018.

And he's actually playing well. Oy vey.

 

[Sydla]

Witten is not retiring this close to a SB run

He won't take a pay cut either ....... the best we can hope for is a restructure and a Hanna cut

That will save 6-7m against the cap...... leaves us with Witten- Swaim- Gathers- Jarwin

His salary next year isn't guaranteed. He has no leverage other than using emotions against the Cowboys.

 

[LittleD]

lol Hey I'm not saying it will happen. It's mostly just wishful thinking on my part.

I know...I know. I would keep him to if he would consider taking a cut at least for next year. I still think we need to go after a speedy WR and a
speedy TE to give Dez targets which can separate.

 

[Nightman]

His salary next year isn't guaranteed. He has no leverage other than using emotions against the Cowboys.

He isn't going anywhere...... his leverage is that he is our best TE

Restructure and save 4m on the cap........done and done

 

[Teague31]

Randy Gregory? He could push some one off the roster. Havn't heard Mayowa's name called much this year, so not even sure how he is performing.

Yeah we get all the cut Dez stuff now, the off season could be unbearable about it.
Maybe there should be a temporary "cut Dez Zone" so the front thread page is not full of them.....

Who is this Randy Gregory you speak of?

 

[Nightman]

My cuts and salary cap space saved
Hanna 2.75m
Mayowa 2.75m
Scandick 1.4m
TCrawford 1.8m ......... Keep

Restructures
TSmith 8m
TFred 8m
Witten 4m
Lee 3m

Re-do
Dez 6m
ZMartin 4m

That is 40m in cap space added to 25-30m in starting cap space plus rollover = 65-70m available

 

[Verdict]

I was playing around with the Over the Cap website and looking at 2018.

Now there are guys who could be restructured to create more cap space - Frederick, maybe Dez, etc.

But then there are some guys who could give us a savings if cut. Note, I am not suggesting they all be cut, just listing the ones for which there would be a decent savings:

Witten - saves $6.5MM with no dead money
Beasley - saves $3.35MM, $1MM dead money
Bryant - saves $8.0MM with $8.5MM in dead money
Mayowa - saves $2.75MM with $1.1MM in dead money
Hanna - saved $2.75MM with $750M in dead money

Scandrick and Crawford are two popular names you see mentioned that could be cut but they provide little cap relief unless you deem them June 1 cuts, I believe.

Witten and Bryant should go. Mayowa should probably also be cut and replaced with a draft pick. Don't cut him for another marginal journeyman player.

 

[Verdict]

If after the last three seasons (including this one), he isn't willing to take a paycut, then that's fine - he can be shown the door, also.

Again, I want Dez on this team, but his current/recent production to pay ratio is asinine.

Yeah. That's a reasonable thought. But if you have to keep the player and his cap hit or cut him why are you going to do? I really doubt he takes a pay cut. He thinks he is all world.

 

[Verdict]

I agree with both of you. I'm just saying, Witten makes it a little more difficult than most players to NOT have some emotion invested in the decision.

Good teams don't decide about keeping a player based on emotion unless they don't care about winning because there is an opportunity cost to acting in that way.

 

[MileyDancer]

Good teams don't decide about keeping a player based on emotion unless they don't care about winning because there is an opportunity cost to acting in that way.

Yeah, that's already been said like 10 times in this thread.

 

[Drlabon]

Why would we re-work Dez contract? I suspect that we will use a high pick on WR 1-2, which will replace Butler's spot. Our WR core in 19 will likely be Dez, Williams, High Draft Pick, Beasly, Switzer, and Brown

 

[Drlabon]

In 2018 not 19. The way Bryant's contract is structured, he can be released with significant cap savings after 18

 

[Nightman]

Why would we re-work Dez contract? I suspect that we will use a high pick on WR 1-2, which will replace Butler's spot. Our WR core in 19 will likely be Dez, Williams, High Draft Pick, Beasly, Switzer, and Brown

He is our best WR...... replace Switzer, Brown or TWill first

When we have 3 WRs better than Dez then we can cut him

 

[KingintheNorth]

Witten - saves $6.5MM with no dead money NOPE
Beasley - saves $3.35MM, $1MM dead money NOPE
Bryant - saves $8.0MM with $8.5MM in dead money NOPE
Mayowa - saves $2.75MM with $1.1MM in dead money Absolutely
Hanna - saved $2.75MM with $750M in dead money I don't think so

Scandrick Yes and Crawford Yes are two popular names you see mentioned that could be cut but they provide little cap relief unless you deem them June 1 cuts, I believe.