Brady set for 7th straight Championship game

[Runwildboys]

You've been a cowboy fan too long. Stop listening to the guys who line their ten gallon hats with tin foil.

Come on, you have to admit, the officials stopped the Titans progress twice, en route to the 21-7 score. Obviously there's no guarantee they would've scored, had the officials not made that impossible, but they were looking much better before having those opportunities ripped away from them and handed to the Pats.
And I didn't say the officials conspired to do it, just that they did it.

 

[Pape]

Come on, you have to admit ....

 

[CPanther95]

No question Brady is the GOAT with Montana at #2, but the gap between Belichick and the #2 coach is much larger.

Brady wouldn't have had this much success without Belichick, but Belichick could very well have turned a few other modern era QBs into the GOAT.

 

[JoeKing]

They basically have a Free trip to the AFCCG every year

They have to win one Home game against the lowest seed

If that's so easy then why can't a 13-3, 1 seed Cowboys team do it?

 

[Diehardblues]

No question Brady is the GOAT with Montana at #2, but the gap between Belichick and the #2 coach is much larger.

Brady wouldn't have had this much success without Belichick, but Belichick could very well have turned a few other modern era QBs into the GOAT.

IDK.. that’s a good argument though. Brady has definitely benefitted from prob best defensive mind this era. Bill also understood early on how to continue with Cap knowing you can’t hang on to star talent .. except your QB.

I’m not sure how much you coach up winning games at the end? Certainly surround the parts are huge but in the end Brady had to make the throws and plays. Not sure any others this era do?

Would Bill have had success with Rodgers , Ben and Peyton for example . Certainly but to this level is pure speculative and why Brady deserves the credit IMO because Brady wasn’t surrounded every year with an all star cast but maintained an HOF level.

 

[Diehardblues]

As far as ranking Bill as GOAT I believe that’s very debatable as well.

Some of the greats had success with other teams and QB’s.

While no coach had ever repeated with another team they have with other QB and taken multiple teams to a championship.

Landry took 4 different QB’s to a championship game and 2 QB to a SB.Shula took 2 QB to a SB with one team. Gibbs won 3 SB with 3 different QB.

Parcells took 2 teams to a SB, 3 teams to a championship game and 4 teams to a playoff which is unmatched .

Belichick is greatest this era by far and why I think he looks like the best ever but until he’s proven he can take another team or QB to the brink he will forever be attached to Brady.

 

[CPanther95]

IDK.. that’s a good argument though. Brady has definitely benefitted from prob best defensive mind this era. Bill also understood early on how to continue with Cap knowing you can’t hang on to star talent .. except your QB.

I’m not sure how much you coach up winning games at the end? Certainly surround the parts are huge but in the end Brady had to make the throws and plays. Not sure any others this era do?

Would Bill have had success with Rodgers , Ben and Peyton for example . Certainly but to this level is pure speculative and why Brady deserves the credit IMO because Brady wasn’t surrounded every year with an all star cast but maintained an HOF level.

It's much easier for me to see a Peyton Manning or even Drew Brees having a "Brady career" under Belichick in NE - than seeing Brady having a "Brady career" in Indy or NO.

Belichick hasn't had a "rebuilding year" since he built the team. This year was supposed to be a defensive rebuilding year - Belichick completed the rebuilding before the bye week.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's much easier for me to see a Peyton Manning or even Drew Brees having a "Brady career" under Belichick in NE - than seeing Brady having a "Brady career" in Indy or NO.

Belichick hasn't had a "rebuilding year" since he built the team. This year was supposed to be a defensive rebuilding year - Belichick completed the rebuilding before the bye week.

Like I said those other QB would have had some success but would they have stayed as healthy and been as consistent ?

It’s an unknown and all we can do is speculate except for what we do know in that Belichick didn’t start winning Super Bowls until Brady.

Much like those other coaches didn’t without their greater QB’s .

Coaches deserve credit for assembling the talent and placing them in position to succeed but the talent ultimately has to make the plays.

 

[Diehardblues]

Remember Bledsoe was a good enough QB to take Patriots to a SB and if Brady hadn’t come in and won a SB Bledsoe would have continued to be their starter.

QB’s deserve the credit for closing the deal and Brady much like Montana is one of if not the best closer of all time. That’s a difference maker.

 

[CPanther95]

Like I said those other QB would have had some success but would they have stayed as healthy and been as consistent ?

I think even Romo would have had a healthy 15-20 years if a flag got thrown whenever a defender looked at him with malice in his heart.

 

[Nightman]

If that's so easy then why can't a 13-3, 1 seed Cowboys team do it?

Because you fans in DAL provide no Home Field Advantage....... don't want to drop your cheese or clink your wine glass

 

[Diehardblues]

Putting QB on other teams in a speculative comparison entails so many flawed comparisons.

For example as much as Romo elevated this team for years does a Rodgers take us another step? I think so but who knows.

All we know is what we know and Bill has never taken a team to a championship appearance without Brady.

Are they the best HC/ QB tandem of all time. Probably an argument I’d agree with. Again their results at this point should support that . The only other one I’d throw in there is Lombardi/ Star.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think even Romo would have had a healthy 15-20 years if a flag got thrown whenever a defender looked at him with malice in his heart.

Its difficult for me to not feel this is a slighted opinion coming from a Steelers fan against prob biggest rival this era.

I rate Ben higher than some have. I consider him one of the elite QB’s this era and without him even with their solid coaching and defenses wouldn’t have seen 3 Super Bowls this era.

Elite QB‘s make huge plays and impact games on the biggest stage.

 

[CPanther95]

Putting QB on other teams in a speculative comparison entails so many flawed comparisons.

For example as much as Romo elevated this team for years does a Rodgers take us another step? I think so but who knows.

All we know is what we know and Bill has never taken a team to a championship appearance without Brady.

Are they the best HC/ QB tandem of all time. Probably an argument I’d agree with. Again their results at this point should support that . The only other one I’d throw in there is Lombardi/ Star.

Yeah, it's all just mental chewing gum.

My bias leans to Belichick because of one significant thing >>> He turned the Browns into an 11-5 playoff team with people projecting them to go to the Super Bowl. That was either Belichick or divine intervention.

Its difficult for me to not feel this is a slighted opinion coming from a Steelers fan against prob biggest rival this era.

I rate Ben higher than some have. I consider him one of the elite QB’s this era and without him even with their solid coaching and defenses wouldn’t have seen 3 Super Bowls this era.

I deny no envy. I am extremely envious of what NE has built.

Worthless Big Ben trivia: With his win against the Browns in Cleveland this year, Ben now has more wins in Cleveland than any Browns QB has had since they rejoined the league in 1999.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

They should put the bounty on the officials. They absolutely screwed the Titans in this game.

That they did. I watched the first half before I went to work, and the game looked fixed as hell. I mean, EVERY time the Titans looked like they were going to take momentum back, a penalty or a blown call happened. It was painful to watch to the point where I was glad that the time for me to work had arrived. See, the Pats are good, but why did they get the benefit of the majority of the calls last night? Even ROMO complained about a the officiating (and he knows FULL well what it's like to have the officials interfere in a playoff game). I can't help but continue to wonder how fixed the NFL is, at least since Goodell took over.

 

[Pape]

All we know is what we know and Bill has never taken a team to a championship appearance without Brady.

I really dislike this statement. While it is true on its face, it is made completely without context. Belichick was building a decent team there, and was completely hamstrung by Art Modell when he announced that the team was moving to Baltimore. So while its technically true, that particular team Bill built was on the rise, until suicide by owner.

 

[Runwildboys]

No question Brady is the GOAT with Montana at #2, but the gap between Belichick and the #2 coach is much larger.

Brady wouldn't have had this much success without Belichick, but Belichick could very well have turned a few other modern era QBs into the GOAT.

I think they both would have had respectable careers, but I don't think either of them would have had nearly the amount of success they've had.

 

[Runwildboys]

That they did. I watched the first half before I went to work, and the game looked fixed as hell. I mean, EVERY time the Titans looked like they were going to take momentum back, a penalty or a blown call happened. It was painful to watch to the point where I was glad that the time for me to work had arrived. See, the Pats are good, but why did they get the benefit of the majority of the calls last night? Even ROMO complained about a the officiating (and he knows FULL well what it's like to have the officials interfere in a playoff game). I can't help but continue to wonder how fixed the NFL is, at least since Goodell took over.

I'm very hesitant to label it a "fix", or even a personal bias with any of the officials. I think they just screwed up at a few key moments in the game, destroying any chance the Titans had of keeping their momentum.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yeah, it's all just mental chewing gum.

My bias leans to Belichick because of one significant thing >>> He turned the Browns into an 11-5 playoff team with people projecting them to go to the Super Bowl. That was either Belichick or divine intervention.




I deny no envy. I am extremely envious of what NE has built.

Worthless Big Ben trivia: With his win against the Browns in Cleveland this year, Ben now has more wins in Cleveland than any Browns QB has had since they rejoined the league in 1999.

I’ve always tried to limit these comparisons to an era. Crossing those boundaries often aren’t fair comparisons .

Brady and Bill are each respectively the best of their era.

And I don’t envy them but instead admire. I love watching greatness even when it’s not on my team.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm very hesitant to label it a "fix", or even a personal bias with any of the officials. I think they just screwed up at a few key moments in the game, destroying any chance the Titans had of keeping their momentum.

Hmm, but it was strange to me that it kept occurring at critical moments for the Titans.