Get Cousins at all costs!

[Super_Kazuya]

What's truly sad and embarrassing is fans like you that don't have the ability to look at facts because of dislike for player, team or coaches. When proven facts are there no need to distort them, say the good and the bad. Folks like you have an agenda and when proven wrong you can't accept it so you make up ridiculous claims and off somewhere in left field. You can always tell when they are losing debates because they get off topic and copy the person they are debating which you have done over and over. So if you want to get out of fantasy land and come back to Earth we will be here. Other then that I have nothing else to say to you. Can't help a person that disregards facts and stats for their own agenda. Good luck to you in your future debates cause I see plenty of losing in your future. You're like the Browns of debates

I’ll say it again because you clearly have mental issues. At no point was Dak ever an MVP candidate. You made up a bunch of lies when faced with simple, overwhelming statistical evidence to prove this point and people are laughing at you. The information I provided is simple and can be obtained many places. I’ll repeat it again and maybe you can get some help from a teacher to sound it out:
Here is the rating, completion percentage, and yards per attempt ratings of the last 7 QB MVPs. These categories are very strong markers for MVP: (I'm including Brady as likely MVP this year)
2017: 3rd, 5th, 4th
2016: 1st, 3rd, 1st
2015: 7th, 27th, 7th
2014: 2nd, 9th, 2nd
2013: 2nd, 3rd, 1st
2011: 1st, 2nd, 1st

So you really are going to try to pretend that Dak was the mid-season MVP sitting on 9th, 16th, and 22nd? Please... only in your Madden fueled fantasies.
Stop lying and stop making up phony stats. Stop pretending you know what you’re talking about and for God’s sake stop playing so much Madden. But most importantly just stop lying.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I’ll say it again because you clearly have mental issues. At no point was Dak ever an MVP candidate. You made up a bunch of lies when faced with simple, overwhelming statistical evidence to prove this point and people are laughing at you. The information I provided is simple and can be obtained many places. I’ll repeat it again and maybe you can get some help from a teacher to sound it out:
Here is the rating, completion percentage, and yards per attempt ratings of the last 7 QB MVPs. These categories are very strong markers for MVP: (I'm including Brady as likely MVP this year)
2017: 3rd, 5th, 4th
2016: 1st, 3rd, 1st
2015: 7th, 27th, 7th
2014: 2nd, 9th, 2nd
2013: 2nd, 3rd, 1st
2011: 1st, 2nd, 1st

So you really are going to try to pretend that Dak was the mid-season MVP sitting on 9th, 16th, and 22nd? Please... only in your Madden fueled fantasies.
Stop lying and stop making up phony stats. Stop pretending you know what you’re talking about and for God’s sake stop playing so much Madden. But most importantly just stop lying.

Not really sure why you keep talking Madden, you're the only one bringing it up. That being said I'm still waiting on you to prove my stats wrong. You say I made them up and they are lies where prove it. Prove the numbers I posted are wrong........I will wait.

You still haven't answered my question. Post Wentz and Watson's rank. You found Daks on Google why not the other two.

Also here is another question. You are posting MVP rankings which I'm assuming was for the whole year. Where was Brady ranking at midseason this season.

If you can't answer the questions then stop running in circles. I know you want the last word since you lost the debate do here is your chance.

 

[khiladi]

History goes beyond this year. The Skins could have easily signed Cousins 3 years ago, but franchised him because they didn’t trust him. Two years ago, they franchised him again at another crazy cost when he wanted a contract. He’s leaving because he feels unwanted, and he is.

So your argument is tagging him with the franchise tag twice proves he’s unwanted...

Nice logic there..

They wanted to give him a long-term contract last year and he refused.

 

[khiladi]

You're using an extremely small sample size for Dak. Kirk has been in the league for 6 seasons now with his best season that you mention coming in his 5th year in the leauge. Also, you can't hold Dak responsible because Dallas how a more balanced offense than Washington. You're also leaving out that Cousins is one of the worst Red Zone QBs in the NFL & that he fumbled the ball 13 times last year.

With respect to the team aspect, Dak has beat him head-to-head the four times they've played.

I acknowledge that Dak is a rookie and as I originally stated, I think Cousins is a tad bit over-rated and one of the reasons I mentioned specifically is his mistakes in the red zone. I live in DC, and that’s a legitimate criticism of his.

My point is that despite all this. Redskis rely on Kirk to beat teams with his arm and he’s dealt with a team in disarray and has no consistent running game.

Comparing Dak to him, as if Dak is better is nonsense. Kirk has dealt with a lot more disarray than Dak, including WRs whole Dak has actually had relative stability, taking into account both Zeke suspensions and Smith and the more this team relied on Dak’s arm, it got worse.

There is nothing to indicate right now that of Dak threw as much as Cousins in the disarray Cousins has experienced that he’s anywhere close to Kirk.

 

[khiladi]

How many years has Cousins been around vs Dak? The fact that Cousins could not beat Dak in 4 tries with our shabby defense says a lot.

The Commanders defense was worse, their running game is worse, their crop of WRs are worse, their injuries and instability in OL was worse.

You guys make excuses when Smith went out.

Cousins hasn’t played a full season since he’s started with the Commanders best OL LT Trent Williams and Jordan Reed, their TE can never stay healthy.

And the team still relies on Kirk’s arm to win.

Downplayimh Kirk trying to elevate Dak and then make excuses for Dak when the offense implodes allegedly because Smith went out is delusional..

 

[landroverking]

I really don't understand all the pie in the sky with Dak.
He was above average his first two seasons.
Rookie year remember was against a last place schedule.
The book imo is a long way from being written.
One way or another his 3rd year may tell the tale. (Barring injurer)

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The Commanders defense was worse, their running game is worse, their crop of WRs are worse, their injuries and instability in OL was worse.

You guys make excuses when Smith went out.

Cousins hasn’t played a full season since he’s started with the Commanders best OL LT Trent Williams and Jordan Reed, their TE can never stay healthy.

And the team still relies on Kirk’s arm to win.

Downplayimh Kirk trying to elevate Dak and then make excuses for Dak when the offense implodes allegedly because Smith went out is delusional..

So Commanders rely on Kirk to win games...... He didn't win many but put Dak down by saying he couldn't win when the team relied on his arm.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Hey Jerry how about you go out and get Cousins and give us a Franchise QB who's got all the talent necessary to take this Team along with Zeke and our offline to the Superbowl! Without a quality QB teams go nowhere (unless they have the 2000 Ravens def) and waiting for Dak to become a Cousins might take forever or simply never happen!

Jerry probably won't so our troubles at QB will continue and continue and continue!!!

cousins is an average QB. he is not the answer. he is nothing special. I live in DC area and I get Commanders news all the time. most of the fans here don't like him. he is a stat collector.

 

[khiladi]

So Commanders rely on Kirk to win games...... He didn't win many but put Dak down by saying he couldn't win when the team relied on his arm.

Because Dak only threw for 93 yards against the Commanders and people are acting like its proof he’s better than Kirk, let alone the same category..

The team won and the Commanders defense was getting destroyed by our front five while Dak couldn’t complete passes..

And when Dak is this abysmal which Cousins isn’t for consistent stretches, it’s because Smith is out as if Kirk sucks that bad when Trent Williams is out every year..

 

[George]

Don’t get Cousins. Fix the OL.

 

[khiladi]

cousins is an average QB. he is not the answer. he is nothing special. I live in DC area and I get Commanders news all the time. most of the fans here don't like him. he is a stat collector.

I live in DC too and Kirk has plenty of fans here and pretty much all of even his non-fans think this latest move was idiotic.

Especially after they fired their GM (which his hiring was one of their most solid moves and everybody in DC praised) last year for being ‘drunk’, it’s just another example of the inept FO of Snyder and Allen.

Everybody in DC hates Allen and even more so now.

They just traded their best defensive player and a third round draft pick for Smith.

 

[CouchCoach]

I don't get what posters that are already wanting to move on from Dak get. It's as much a waste of time as wanting another GM or HC, not going to happen. Booger wants Dak to be the guy and he will have at least this year and they will not put a challenger on the team.

First of all, it's bragging rights, franchise QB drafted in the 4th round preceded by UDFA franchise QB, who does that? He was a Cowboys fan before he was a Cowboy. He makes news his rookie season and not only on the field. Negative news was countered by the QB going home to see his Grandmother during the bye and do not underestimate that alone putting a lot of fans in his corner in this day of the selfish athletes all wrapped up in themselves.

Dak struggled and stumbled last season and the offense did as well. He missed some reads and throws and failed to carry the team to the playoffs. But what some of us fail to see is that was his real rookie season. 2016 wasn't real, he wasn't asked to do what most QB's are asked to do which is why most struggle in their rookie seasons just as Goff and Wentz did. He was allowed to just execute the offense and not really run it as a QB.

We should all be in his corner and pulling for him because it is in our own best interest. If Dak is not the guy, then who is? And do you trust this brain trust to find him? Think about that swinging door between Aikman and Romo. We better hope to hell Dak turns the corner this season, the Season of Truth, or we could be in for a long rough ride.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I live in DC too and Kirk has plenty of fans here and pretty much all of even his non-fans think this latest move was idiotic.

Especially after they fired their GM (which his hiring was one of their most solid moves and everybody in DC praised) last year for being ‘drunk’, it’s just another example of the inept FO of Snyder and Allen.

Everybody in DC hates Allen and even more so now.

They just traded their best defensive player and a third round draft pick for Smith.

that's the point with cousins. he has his fans. he also has those who don't think he is special.

was this an idiotic move by Commanders? absolutely. they cornered themselves by their indecision. they should have signed him two years ago, but at the time he hadn't shown much. Smith is not the right fit for their offense. and they are really stupid to trade a good CB, their best defensive player for a 33 year old, never been QB. they should have just over paid for cousins and kept him.

if there is any FO that's worse than the cowboys, its the Commanders.

now with that said, it would be nice to have Gruden as our OC. perhaps garrett and him will both get fired next year and he will join the cowboys as an OC. he doesn't impress me as a head coach.

 

[uvaballa]

No!

 

[CouchCoach]

No!

uvaloompa, please keep your responses to shorter ones.

 

[Nightman]

Dak is 4-0 against Cousins. I'm good with Dak, and so are the Cowboys. The decision makers.

Any Cowboys fan that wants Cousins over Dak should turn in their membership card

They don't know football and aren't Cowboys fans to begin with

 

[uvaballa]

Any Cowboys fan that wants Cousins over Dak should turn in their membership card

They don't know football and aren't Cowboys fans to begin with

Not going that far but Cousins is overrated. Look at his numbers and Smith’s number over the last three seasons. One is called a bus driver and the other isn’t but the numbers say they’re almost the same guy.

 

[Nightman]

So your argument is tagging him with the franchise tag twice proves he’s unwanted...

Nice logic there..

They wanted to give him a long-term contract last year and he refused.

More QBs like Cousins should hit the market

He is an average QB that would get 12-15m on the open market
WAS had to pay the premium to keep him with the tag because they had no other options

Cousins leveraged that issue into 45m over the last 2 years....good for him but WAS still didn't want to commit long-term at those prices

DAL should learn the lesson and offer Dak an extension after this season...... the earliest possible
Offer him 4/60m with 100% guaranteed with a 25m signing bonus....it removes a huge distraction and Dak gets that life changing money

By 2021 they can offer him another huge deal if he keeps improving

 

[CouchCoach]

Not going that far but Cousins is overrated. Look at his numbers and Smith’s number over the last three seasons. One is called a bus driver and the other isn’t but the numbers say they’re almost the same guy.

I would rather face Cousins twice a year than Smith. I think Smith is the most under-rated QB in the last 15 years. And he's as good a runner as any QB in the league.

I think the Skins did a helluva upgrade at QB.

 

[Nightman]

Not going that far but Cousins is overrated. Look at his numbers and Smith’s number over the last three seasons. One is called a bus driver and the other isn’t but the numbers say they’re almost the same guy.

ASmith's legs separate him from Cousins just like Dak

Dak is a huge weapon running the ball and defenders bounce off him

Cousins always managed to come up short when the heat was on..... if that is even possible in WAS