The reason they have to keep Dez

[glimmerman]

Yeah, wonder if the Dez whiners will be this way toward Dak when he gets his $50 million a year next year and then still doesn't perform.

Lol. 50 million. He better take us to the SB and win the next 2 years.

 

[jazzcat22]

I disagree with the money part of it. How does having only 8 mil in dead money if cut before June 1st be worse than having a 16.5 mil hit on the cap for 2018? It would actually be saving 8.5 mil on the 2018 cap and even more if he was designated as a June 1st cut.
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because you still need to replace him. And they can't rely on the draft to replace him. Then they are drafting for need. not a good idea.
So to get a Wr in FA, you will have to pay near or more than that other $8 million.
At least they know Dez can be productive. It is not like he lost all or any of his skills.
Get better QB play and accuracy, then see how much Dez and the other WR's improve as well.

 

[jazzcat22]

Lol. 50 million. He will get a lot more than that when his 4 year deal is up. 120-150.

A year, not total.

 

[glimmerman]

A year, not total.

Yeah I had to edit my post there. 50 mil is that what the NFL qb is making now?

 

[jazzcat22]

Lol. 50 million. He better take us to the SB and win the next 2 years.

This will be Dak's make or break year. He must show he is the franchise QB. If a repeat of last year, he goes into his 4th year needing to prove it then. So I would think the team would want him to show it this year to get a new contract in place before his actual contract year.

 

[glimmerman]

This will be Dak's make or break year. He must show he is the franchise QB. If a repeat of last year, he goes into his 4th year needing to prove it then. So I would think the team would want him to show it this year to get a new contract in place before his actual contract year.

Each year another qb gets a contract the price goes up..

 

[jazzcat22]

Yeah I had to edit my post there. 50 mil is that what the NFL qb is making now?

Oh, I don't know, I was just throwing out a bit of a high number, because that is what Jerry does. So some will have something to whine about on how big a players contract is. LOL.
If it was floating around Cousins wanted $20 million plus a year, so in 2 years it may not be too much off at $50. LOL.

 

[gjkoeppen]

It probably is unreasonable to simply cut him.

But if they do nothing with his cap factor, then they are really mailing it in.

Right now there are only 2 real options. 1) eat the 16.5 mil hit on the cap and keep him or 2) cut him and save at least 8.5 mil on the 2018 cap. Don't say trade because between the dwindling numbers the past couple of seasons and a huge contract not to mention his age, the fact he's never been a good route runner and has been a 1 trick pony of just out jumping a defender for balls, his newly found fumbling last season and childish temper tantrums on the field and sidelines teams aren't going to be lining up offering to trade for Bryant. Some team I'm sure will pick him up after he's released but not for ANYWHERE close to the money he would have gotten if he was still in Dallas. He will be lucky to get #2 type pay for a receiver clearly on the downward side of his career.
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[glimmerman]

Oh, I don't know, I was just throwing out a bit of a high number, because that is what Jerry does. So some will have something to whine about on how big a players contract is. LOL.
If it was floating around Cousins wanted $20 million plus a year, so in 2 years it may not be too much off at $50. LOL.

True. JJ will break the bank for this kid that he didn’t want to draft in the first place.

 

[Alexander]

Right now there are only 2 real options. 1) eat the 16.5 mil hit on the cap and keep him or 2) cut him and save at least 8.5 mil on the 2018 cap. Don't say trade because between the dwindling numbers the past couple of seasons and a huge contract not to mention his age, the fact he's never been a good route runner and has been a 1 trick pony of just out jumping a defender for balls, his newly found fumbling last season and childish temper tantrums on the field and sidelines teams aren't going to be lining up offering to trade for Bryant. Some team I'm sure will pick him up after he's released but not for ANYWHERE close to the money he would have gotten if he was still in Dallas. He will be lucky to get #2 type pay for a receiver clearly on the downward side of his career.
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I believe they can still keep him and save a little bit by kicking the can down the road with him.

I don't think they are ready and prepared to cut him. Not emotionally or financially.

They have to manage the "impression" with him delicately because he is an emotional powder keg. Show his some "respect" by paying him now and cutting him later is the likely road to go down. The fans would buy that because kicking the can is just "doing what we want".

 

[Melonfeud]

Some buddies and I were kicking around the Dez situation the other day, and Peter King touched on a point we were making. He added context.

We concluded that the Cowboys have no choice but to keep Dez Bryant. Replacing him in the draft is too hard, and buying their way out of it only compounds the financial albatross of Dez' contract even further.

In the past three years, look at the first-round receivers that were drafted. Virtually every one has been a disappointment so far, except for Amari Cooper.

2015: Amari Cooper, Kevin White, DeVante Parker, Nelson Agholor, Breshad Perriman, Phillip Dorsett
2016: Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, Lequon Treadwell
2017: Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross

And keep in mind, 2018 is supposed to be a weak draft at receiver.

College football is doing a terrible job of developing wide receivers for the pros, just like so many other positions. Receivers show up completely lost with no idea how professional offenses work. They don't understand how to run routes, how to read defenses, and they aren't used to catching balls in traffic.

I know that sounds like Dez a bit, but he had the knack for catching in traffic from day one.

If they cut Dez, then Cole Beasley or Terrance Williams is the #1 receiver. That is, unless you think tiny Calvin Ridley is going to come in and be a seasoned pro his first year. Eeeek.

I've stated my issues with Dez for a many years, but he's the best option for this team in 2018 at that spot. Keep him, bite hard on the contract, and just hope the running game returns in full force.

HA,,,,YA- RIGHT!
I reckon it's just such,that yer' imperiacl nature cast not a glimmer of STAR POWER upon that dejected & jettisoned dude we HAD in that #19 jersey,,,


I can tell you this much,RIGHT NOW!
If J.Jones were to lay 1/4 of the contract that #88 Nuzzled all up into,that alley CAT BUTLER would damn near ECLIPSE TWO SEASONS worth of production in his first year being given ALL THOSE TARGETED #1 RECEIVER OPPORTUNITIES,

(Although bro,this Too, is just as suspect& speculative in it's nature as the O.P.,,,but my hole card is that (,,,er,,,,,,former dude who sported the #19 jersey) wouldn't be focused on buying no damn pet monkey upon signing a FOOTBALL PLAYING CONTRACT

 

[erod]

I disagree with the money part of it. How does having only 8 mil in dead money if cut before June 1st be worse than having a 16.5 mil hit on the cap for 2018? It would actually be saving 8.5 mil on the 2018 cap and even more if he was designated as a June 1st cut.
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Because money doesn't play wide receiver.

What are the options without him?

 

[gjkoeppen]

because you still need to replace him. And they can't rely on the draft to replace him. Then they are drafting for need. not a good idea.
So to get a Wr in FA, you will have to pay near or more than that other $8 million.
At least they know Dez can be productive. It is not like he lost all or any of his skills.
Get better QB play and accuracy, then see how much Dez and the other WR's improve as well.

What you say MAY, big word, be true IF, another big word Bryant's numbers hadn't dwindled so bad not just the past 2 seasons but not hit 1000 yards in like 4 or 5 years now. He's never been a good route runner and has only been a 1 trick pony being able to out jump defenders for balls. He's never had really good speed and he's lost a step now. Also because draft gurus who make as many mistakes as they get things right say the receiver position is thin this draft teams should take that as gospel. There's never been a pro Bowler, All Pro and even some HOF'ers that came in later rounds and weren't thought to be on draft day what they turned out to be? Saving money on the cap makes more sense that keeping a receiver that is clearly on the downside of his career.
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[cern]

perhaps all this means is that even though the odds favor getting a star with an early pick, some of the best wr's are there by virtue of hard work and dedication. every year there are underperformers and overachievers. a lot of it is good coaching and scheme. no need to be held for ranson by the underachieving dez. cut him loose. keep the money. spend it on other players far more deserving.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Because money doesn't play wide receiver.

What are the options without him?

That's a ridiculous logic. You can say money doesn't play any position of any player released. The options are to draft a receiver at some point in the draft or wait until a receiver is released because some rookie who is cheaper a team likes and releases a vet receiver. I'm sorry but over paying Bryant because at this particular moment the Cowboys may not have his replacement on the roster is not sound judgement for over paying.
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[erod]

That's a ridiculous logic. You can say money doesn't play any position of any player released. The options are to draft a receiver at some point in the draft or wait until a receiver is released because some rookie who is cheaper a team likes and releases a vet receiver. I'm sorry but over paying Bryant because at this particular moment the Cowboys may not have his replacement on the roster is not sound judgement for over paying.
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If Dez was in Green Bay......100 catches, 1,000 yards, 10+ TDs. With his eyes closed.

You aren't fixing this in the draft. As you read in the OP, the past three years have produced almost nothing in the draft at wide receiver in the first round. Certainly nothing of real note, outside of flashes from Amari Cooper, who had a terrible year last year.

And the salary cap is a virtual myth. You can always restructure to make anything fit you want, and it keeps going up year after year. It's a built-in excuse to stand pat.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Right now there are only 2 real options. 1) eat the 16.5 mil hit on the cap and keep him or 2) cut him and save at least 8.5 mil on the 2018 cap. Don't say trade because between the dwindling numbers the past couple of seasons and a huge contract not to mention his age, the fact he's never been a good route runner and has been a 1 trick pony of just out jumping a defender for balls, his newly found fumbling last season and childish temper tantrums on the field and sidelines teams aren't going to be lining up offering to trade for Bryant. Some team I'm sure will pick him up after he's released but not for ANYWHERE close to the money he would have gotten if he was still in Dallas. He will be lucky to get #2 type pay for a receiver clearly on the downward side of his career.
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Restructure for cap relief. Make sure he has better season or seasons, and then trade or cut him?

 

[jazzcat22]

What you say MAY, big word, be true IF, another big word Bryant's numbers hadn't dwindled so bad not just the past 2 seasons but not hit 1000 yards in like 4 or 5 years now. He's never been a good route runner and has only been a 1 trick pony being able to out jump defenders for balls. He's never had really good speed and he's lost a step now. Also because draft gurus who make as many mistakes as they get things right say the receiver position is thin this draft teams should take that as gospel. There's never been a pro Bowler, All Pro and even some HOF'ers that came in later rounds and weren't thought to be on draft day what they turned out to be? Saving money on the cap makes more sense that keeping a receiver that is clearly on the downside of his career.
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Look at his numbers with Tony, look at his numbers with injuries and Dak...that tells most of it right there.

 

[cern]

there are far more players in the hof who were not first round draft choices than those who were. at every position, not just wr.

 

[jazzcat22]

That's a ridiculous logic. You can say money doesn't play any position of any player released. The options are to draft a receiver at some point in the draft or wait until a receiver is released because some rookie who is cheaper a team likes and releases a vet receiver. I'm sorry but over paying Bryant because at this particular moment the Cowboys may not have his replacement on the roster is not sound judgement for over paying.
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Yeah, wow, what a way to build a team...we can then go 4-12 and draft a WR in 2019. and still have a lame coaching staff to go 8-8 that year.