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I don't want to beat a dead horse. I think it was a mistake to move on from Romo, but for quite a few reasons beyond him being the best option at the time. I think more importantly he was the best option for the window we had.

Garrett did Romo and Prescott a great disservice. I think he has done the team, in general, a great disservice, as we can see by how many Cowboys greats have been unable to get rings here or even playoff victories, but have had success in other organizations (Ware, Bennett). Even Brandon Weeden was able to win games in this league after leaving this team.

The crux of this comes down to the reality that the Cowboys have no organizational strategy. Drafting good players isn't a strategy, that's a given.

What we do is we draft good players that we don't have an actual plan for.

Tyrone Crawford, who we ended up overpaying, we moved him in and outside about twice a year. Switzer, Bennett, Jones, Collins, Smith, Green, Escobar.... the list goes on. They just think we'll grab players and figure the rest out later. They have no concept of identity whatsoever. That's why much to the chagrin of fans they'll throw three times in a row on 1st and goal on the 3-yard line after putting every bit of resources into the offensive line and a top 5 draft pick at running back.

Dak was a happy accident for them in 2017 and Garrett saw it as a way to remove Romo. The fact that Garrett won out there and as a result, we've moved on from both Witten and Bryant should make this his last year if/when he isn't successful. This team wasn't built for a rookie QB. We don't have a dominant defense. Prescott should have been allowed to sit behind Romo and learn mostly pressure free.

Instead, we go into year 3, and if Prescott and Garrett don't deliver, you find yourself in a position of having to start looking for a new QB or planning on making him the franchise player after his 4th year. Worse you've lost the advantage of having a cheap QB on the roster. Where are the resources going exactly? That's right we were still paying for Romo. Garrett is entirely too political and too inexperienced to be a good Head Coach. The decision to move on from Romo was a political one that ignored the best tenets of managing a football team. And that is no slight on Dak. QBs are best when they are allowed to develop. The lumps Dak will take and believe me he will continue to take them in year 3, will not outweigh the opportunity costs involved.

Short of an NFC Championship, Garrett needs to be on his way by the end of the year and a Head Coach with some vision and strategy needs to be put in place. Someone who isn't going to squander talent.
 

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Yes, by the miracle of science, Romos body was getting better. he was going to get 2 years younger, all this stuff was going to happen. Please, lets harp on it some more and also tell fans, if we get to the playoffs, Romo will come out of retirement. Which Romo could hedge that bet.

Yes, the Cowboys were going to make noise, i mean they havent for 20 plus years, but all of a sudden, that was going to happen as well.

Short of Cowboy fans never realizing anything, JJ will get rid of Garrett when hes good and ready, NOT when you are good and ready and set the terms. Try to live within your means. Reality is not for all.
 

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oh good, a refreshingly new topic.....

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Good coaches make the talent they have work for them. Good coaches don’t need a certain type of talent to succeed.

With that said, the cowboys drafting ability is way overrated around here. We are going into 2018 and the 2013, 2014, and 2015 classes have very few quality contributors left. Granted the picks they did hit on are very good/great players, but the overall lack of depth from 3 straight drafts is glaring.
 

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I don't want to beat a dead horse. I think it was a mistake to move on from Romo, but for quite a few reasons beyond him being the best option at the time. I think more importantly he was the best option for the window we had.

Garrett did Romo and Prescott a great disservice. I think he has done the team, in general, a great disservice, as we can see by how many Cowboys greats have been unable to get rings here or even playoff victories, but have had success in other organizations (Ware, Bennett). Even Brandon Weeden was able to win games in this league after leaving this team.

The crux of this comes down to the reality that the Cowboys have no organizational strategy. Drafting good players isn't a strategy, that's a given.

What we do is we draft good players that we don't have an actual plan for.

Tyrone Crawford, who we ended up overpaying, we moved him in and outside about twice a year. Switzer, Bennett, Jones, Collins, Smith, Green, Escobar.... the list goes on. They just think we'll grab players and figure the rest out later. They have no concept of identity whatsoever. That's why much to the chagrin of fans they'll throw three times in a row on 1st and goal on the 3-yard line after putting every bit of resources into the offensive line and a top 5 draft pick at running back.

Dak was a happy accident for them in 2017 and Garrett saw it as a way to remove Romo. The fact that Garrett won out there and as a result, we've moved on from both Witten and Bryant should make this his last year if/when he isn't successful. This team wasn't built for a rookie QB. We don't have a dominant defense. Prescott should have been allowed to sit behind Romo and learn mostly pressure free.

Instead, we go into year 3, and if Prescott and Garrett don't deliver, you find yourself in a position of having to start looking for a new QB or planning on making him the franchise player after his 4th year. Worse you've lost the advantage of having a cheap QB on the roster. Where are the resources going exactly? That's right we were still paying for Romo. Garrett is entirely too political and too inexperienced to be a good Head Coach. The decision to move on from Romo was a political one that ignored the best tenets of managing a football team. And that is no slight on Dak. QBs are best when they are allowed to develop. The lumps Dak will take and believe me he will continue to take them in year 3, will not outweigh the opportunity costs involved.

Short of an NFC Championship, Garrett needs to be on his way by the end of the year and a Head Coach with some vision and strategy needs to be put in place. Someone who isn't going to squander talent.
Absolutely 150% correct. While I do admit it was tough to get off of the Dak train as they were winning so much the right move would have been to go back to Romo. Jerry was for Romo regaining his job and I'm not sure who else, but we do know that Garrett voted for Dak. The window as u say was about 2 years possibly 3, Romo would have been the best option to exploit it and if injured you always had Dak to go back to. Anyway we are now tied to Dak, let's hope his growth this year shows positively. I look forward to Romo's ROH Ceremony.
 

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Absolutely 150% correct. While I do admit it was tough to get off of the Dak train as they were winning so much the right move would have been to go back to Romo. Jerry was for Romo regaining his job and I'm not sure who else, but we do know that Garrett voted for Dak. The window as u say was about 2 years possibly 3, Romo would have been the best option to exploit it and if injured you always had Dak to go back to. Anyway we are now tied to Dak, let's hope his growth this year shows positively. I look forward to Romo's ROH Ceremony.

yes, with as many wins in the playoffs and Sbs that Romo has, he was a shoe in to come in and fill what we already have been through. Clearly this was the best option when you already had a QB who was riding very high. Stop momentum of that train just to appease the minority who were screaming for middle of the pack Cowboys.

Romo in the playoffs is not a certifable win. Get over it.
 

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Absolutely 150% correct. While I do admit it was tough to get off of the Dak train as they were winning so much the right move would have been to go back to Romo. Jerry was for Romo regaining his job and I'm not sure who else, but we do know that Garrett voted for Dak. The window as u say was about 2 years possibly 3, Romo would have been the best option to exploit it and if injured you always had Dak to go back to. Anyway we are now tied to Dak, let's hope his growth this year shows positively. I look forward to Romo's ROH Ceremony.

Despite the Dak apologists storming the thread, this thread really isn't about Dak or Romo. It's about the front office not having an actual strategy. They're just playing fast and loose and it is wasting some decent talent.

But your point is exactly right. If Romo gets hurt while still the starter, you have an excellent option for a backup. Instead, we're now rebuilding our wide receiver corps, and wasting this offensive line, and running back...
 

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I don't want to beat a dead horse. I think it was a mistake to move on from Romo, but for quite a few reasons beyond him being the best option at the time. I think more importantly he was the best option for the window we had.

Garrett did Romo and Prescott a great disservice. I think he has done the team, in general, a great disservice, as we can see by how many Cowboys greats have been unable to get rings here or even playoff victories, but have had success in other organizations (Ware, Bennett). Even Brandon Weeden was able to win games in this league after leaving this team.

The crux of this comes down to the reality that the Cowboys have no organizational strategy. Drafting good players isn't a strategy, that's a given.

What we do is we draft good players that we don't have an actual plan for.

Tyrone Crawford, who we ended up overpaying, we moved him in and outside about twice a year. Switzer, Bennett, Jones, Collins, Smith, Green, Escobar.... the list goes on. They just think we'll grab players and figure the rest out later. They have no concept of identity whatsoever. That's why much to the chagrin of fans they'll throw three times in a row on 1st and goal on the 3-yard line after putting every bit of resources into the offensive line and a top 5 draft pick at running back.

Dak was a happy accident for them in 2017 and Garrett saw it as a way to remove Romo. The fact that Garrett won out there and as a result, we've moved on from both Witten and Bryant should make this his last year if/when he isn't successful. This team wasn't built for a rookie QB. We don't have a dominant defense. Prescott should have been allowed to sit behind Romo and learn mostly pressure free.

Instead, we go into year 3, and if Prescott and Garrett don't deliver, you find yourself in a position of having to start looking for a new QB or planning on making him the franchise player after his 4th year. Worse you've lost the advantage of having a cheap QB on the roster. Where are the resources going exactly? That's right we were still paying for Romo. Garrett is entirely too political and too inexperienced to be a good Head Coach. The decision to move on from Romo was a political one that ignored the best tenets of managing a football team. And that is no slight on Dak. QBs are best when they are allowed to develop. The lumps Dak will take and believe me he will continue to take them in year 3, will not outweigh the opportunity costs involved.

Short of an NFC Championship, Garrett needs to be on his way by the end of the year and a Head Coach with some vision and strategy needs to be put in place. Someone who isn't going to squander talent.

You started I don't want to beat a dead horse then beat all the dead horses in these here parts. good job
 

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I don't want to beat a dead horse. I think it was a mistake to move on from Romo, but for quite a few reasons beyond him being the best option at the time. I think more importantly he was the best option for the window we had.

Garrett did Romo and Prescott a great disservice. I think he has done the team, in general, a great disservice, as we can see by how many Cowboys greats have been unable to get rings here or even playoff victories, but have had success in other organizations (Ware, Bennett). Even Brandon Weeden was able to win games in this league after leaving this team.

The crux of this comes down to the reality that the Cowboys have no organizational strategy. Drafting good players isn't a strategy, that's a given.

What we do is we draft good players that we don't have an actual plan for.

Tyrone Crawford, who we ended up overpaying, we moved him in and outside about twice a year. Switzer, Bennett, Jones, Collins, Smith, Green, Escobar.... the list goes on. They just think we'll grab players and figure the rest out later. They have no concept of identity whatsoever. That's why much to the chagrin of fans they'll throw three times in a row on 1st and goal on the 3-yard line after putting every bit of resources into the offensive line and a top 5 draft pick at running back.

Dak was a happy accident for them in 2017 and Garrett saw it as a way to remove Romo. The fact that Garrett won out there and as a result, we've moved on from both Witten and Bryant should make this his last year if/when he isn't successful. This team wasn't built for a rookie QB. We don't have a dominant defense. Prescott should have been allowed to sit behind Romo and learn mostly pressure free.

Instead, we go into year 3, and if Prescott and Garrett don't deliver, you find yourself in a position of having to start looking for a new QB or planning on making him the franchise player after his 4th year. Worse you've lost the advantage of having a cheap QB on the roster. Where are the resources going exactly? That's right we were still paying for Romo. Garrett is entirely too political and too inexperienced to be a good Head Coach. The decision to move on from Romo was a political one that ignored the best tenets of managing a football team. And that is no slight on Dak. QBs are best when they are allowed to develop. The lumps Dak will take and believe me he will continue to take them in year 3, will not outweigh the opportunity costs involved.

Short of an NFC Championship, Garrett needs to be on his way by the end of the year and a Head Coach with some vision and strategy needs to be put in place. Someone who isn't going to squander talent.
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Instead, we go into year 3, and if Prescott and Garrett don't deliver, you find yourself in a position of having to start looking for a new QB or planning on making him the franchise player after his 4th year.
The Cowboys made the right move. Dak is their franchise QB for now and well into the future.

You love for Romo is still making it hard to move on from him.
 

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The Cowboys made the right move. Dak is their franchise QB for now and well into the future.

You love for Romo is still making it hard to move on from him.

Moving to Dak would have been the right move if

1) You didn't have a ton of dead money lined up for Romo.
2. You weren't resource heavy on offense.
3) You had a defense that could carry a QB who isn't going to score 30+ points a game.

The Cowboys maintained the status quo with Dak and regardless of what you think about Romo or Prescott, that wasn't a good move.
 

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yes, with as many wins in the playoffs and Sbs that Romo has, he was a shoe in to come in and fill what we already have been through. Clearly this was the best option when you already had a QB who was riding very high. Stop momentum of that train just to appease the minority who were screaming for middle of the pack Cowboys.

Romo in the playoffs is not a certifable win. Get over it.
And that's exactly where we are today, middle of the pack...maybe.
 
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