Zeke: Now is our time

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He wouldn’t say it if he did. Once they move to amother team, or retire, they darn sure say it.

He most definitely wouldn't say 'this is OUR year' if he didn't think it was going to be the year because he had some specific reservation about the coaching.
 

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He most definitely wouldn't say 'this is OUR year' if he didn't think it was going to be the year because he had some specific reservation about the coaching.
Players have big egos and a lot of confidence in their own ability. I could see Zek thinking, this is our year in spite of the mediocre coaching, we will win inspite of Garrett’s coaching. The way Romo has talked about Garrett as more of a motivator than an X’s and O’s guy, I could see Romo thinking the same way. We’ll win inspite of Garrett.
 

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Players have big egos and a lot of confidence in their own ability. I could see Zek thinking, this is our year in spite of the mediocre coaching, we will win inspite of Garrett’s coaching. The way Romo has talked about Garrett as more of a motivator than an X’s and O’s guy, I could see Romo thinking the same way. We’ll win inspite of Garrett.

Well, I can’t.

Either you’ve got the organization to win it all or you don’t. And you don’t win Superbowls in spite of coaching. It’s too hard to win in the first place.

What you’re suggesting is something fans say when they don’t like the coach and don’t want to give him credit for anything. But it pretty clearly contradicts how the players feel.
 

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He definitely held the team back last year. And while I wouldn't say he was bad in 2016, there was a better option available.

Dak's ceiling is A problem, not THE problem. There is no such thing as THE problem.
You wouldn’t say Dak was bad in 2016! That statement insinuates you didn’t think he was that good. Wow!! The better option was a fragile Romo? I doubt it. If Romo had played in the Raven’s game in 2016, he would have been carried out on a stretcher. The MAIN problem on offense last year was Garrett, not the only problem, BUT the main problem. Then the injuries to the O line. Then Dak forcing the ball to a covered Dez, which Garrett was probably wanting Dak to do. No one knows Dak’s ceiling, but I’m confident it’s high enough to win us a Superbowl if the coaching is at least above average, which it hasn’t been during Garrett’s tenure.
 

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You wouldn’t say Dak was bad in 2016! That statement insinuates you didn’t think he was that good. Wow!! The better option was a fragile Romo? I doubt it. If Romo had played in the Raven’s game in 2016, he would have been carried out on a stretcher. The MAIN problem on offense last year was Garrett, not the only problem, BUT the main problem. Then the injuries to the O line. Then Dak forcing the ball to a covered Dez, which Garrett was probably wanting Dak to do. No one knows Dak’s ceiling, but I’m confident it’s high enough to win us a Superbowl if the coaching is at least above average, which it hasn’t been during Garrett’s tenure.


Yeah, this isn't worth a response, but Romo was absolutely a better option. The Ravens game comment ignores reality regarding the human body and Romo's abilities. Dak did not have to do too much in 2016. He played well enough, but he's wasn't some super great QB like you guys try to pass off. His flaws were visible if you paid attention. Defenses did, and they have adjusted. 2016 will never happen again for Dak Prescott.

When did Dak force the ball to a covered Dez? Examples please (I've repeatedly asked this, nobody answers, they just whine and wave their hands like it's a given - I think people just say any ball thrown to Dez is forced ignoring all the factors going on during the play).

Dak's ceiling is mediocre at best. He should be a backup in this league. Could he win a Superbowl on a team? Sure, but so could Trent Dilfer. Teams win, not QBs. If the team is good enough, it could happen, even with a limited QB like Dak. While I'd love a dominant D and running game, I would still rather have a legit franchise QB.
 

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Now is our time. ......to talk.

It's what we do. The losing comes later. Enjoy your summer.
 

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Well, I can’t.

Either you’ve got the organization to win it all or you don’t. And you don’t win Superbowls in spite of coaching. It’s too hard to win in the first place.

What you’re suggesting is something fans say when they don’t like the coach and don’t want to give him credit for anything. But it pretty clearly contradicts how the players feel.
There are quite a few organizations that can win it all with top 10 talent. We have an organization that can win it all, but we need, probably, the best talent in the league because we have a Barry Switzer type coach. Barry Switzer is proof you can win a Super Bowl in spite of coaching. Just ask Aikman, not Switzer’s biggest fan. I do think we are building a very talented team, so there is some hope. I wish Romo could come out and say how he really felt about Garrett. I’m sure it would surprise you, Idgit.
 

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There are quite a few organizations that can win it all with top 10 talent. We have an organization that can win it all, but we need, probably, the best talent in the league because we have a Barry Switzer type coach. Barry Switzer is proof you can win a Super Bowl in spite of coaching. Just ask Aikman, not Switzer’s biggest fan. I do think we are building a very talented team, so there is some hope. I wish Romo could come out and say how he really felt about Garrett. I’m sure it would surprise you, Idgit.

Meh. I hear that argument from time to time. It sounds like a contortion people make when they just don’t want to admit there’s actually not a legitimate coaching deficit in Dallas to me.

Ping me when Romo comes out and says something critical of Garrett. Until he does, it’s speculation. There are enough players saying really complimentary things about him to satisfy me until then.
 

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Yeah, this isn't worth a response, but Romo was absolutely a better option. The Ravens game comment ignores reality regarding the human body and Romo's abilities. Dak did not have to do too much in 2016. He played well enough, but he's wasn't some super great QB like you guys try to pass off. His flaws were visible if you paid attention. Defenses did, and they have adjusted. 2016 will never happen again for Dak Prescott.

When did Dak force the ball to a covered Dez? Examples please (I've repeatedly asked this, nobody answers, they just whine and wave their hands like it's a given - I think people just say any ball thrown to Dez is forced ignoring all the factors going on during the play).

Dak's ceiling is mediocre at best. He should be a backup in this league. Could he win a Superbowl on a team? Sure, but so could Trent Dilfer. Teams win, not QBs. If the team is good enough, it could happen, even with a limited QB like Dak. While I'd love a dominant D and running game, I would still rather have a legit franchise QB.
What the heck are you talking about. Dak was taking some serious shots in the Raven’s game, especially in the first half. He was getting hit early and often. Romo’s Houdini act wouldn’t have gotten him out of the hits Dak was taking. In 2016 the team was healthy and the coaches game planned well etc. and Dak played Awesome. In 2017 the O line was injured and the coaches game planned poorly, and had no in game adjustments at times and Dak didn’t play as well. If the coaches do their job and the O line stays healthy Dak will play Excellent again this year. You can call blame who ever you want, but when Dak threw to Dez he was almost always covered. He barely completed 50% of his passes to Dez. This O will be better without Dak feeling pressure to throw to the always covered Dez. If Garrett improves his coaching, including getting rid of his predictable coaching tendencies, and the O line stays healthy, Dak will resort back to his 2016 form.
 

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Would you rather they say they suck? We are never satisfied. If they try to be positive, we have something to say. If they're negative, half of us will have something to say. If we get no news at all, we'll have something to say. Lol...smh.
No. How about they don’t say anything at all? Is that possible? How about they shut up and do their jobs? I know that’s impossible to believe in this day and age but it can happen. I don’t recall anyone complaining when they didn’t have anything to say, that’s normally considered a good thing. “Lol...SMH, SMH, SMH” :rolleyes:
 

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He and that oline are going to have a monster year.
 

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Meh. I hear that argument from time to time. It sounds like a contortion people make when they just don’t want to admit there’s actually not a legitimate coaching deficit in Dallas to me.

Ping me when Romo comes out and says something critical of Garrett. Until he does, it’s speculation. There are enough players saying really complimentary things about him to satisfy me until then.
Yep.

I play along with some of the Pundits but there’s really only a handful of great coaches in the NFL. The rest are dependent on their talent level. Garrett falls in that crowd.
 

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No. How about they don’t say anything at all? Is that possible? How about they shut up and do their jobs? I know that’s impossible to believe in this day and age but it can happen. I don’t recall anyone complaining when they didn’t have anything to say, that’s normally considered a good thing. “Lol...SMH, SMH, SMH” :rolleyes:
I'm sure if nothing at all was said...there would be complaints
 

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Yeah, this isn't worth a response, but Romo was absolutely a better option. The Ravens game comment ignores reality regarding the human body and Romo's abilities. Dak did not have to do too much in 2016. He played well enough, but he's wasn't some super great QB like you guys try to pass off. His flaws were visible if you paid attention. Defenses did, and they have adjusted. 2016 will never happen again for Dak Prescott.

When did Dak force the ball to a covered Dez? Examples please (I've repeatedly asked this, nobody answers, they just whine and wave their hands like it's a given - I think people just say any ball thrown to Dez is forced ignoring all the factors going on during the play).

Dak's ceiling is mediocre at best. He should be a backup in this league. Could he win a Superbowl on a team? Sure, but so could Trent Dilfer. Teams win, not QBs. If the team is good enough, it could happen, even with a limited QB like Dak. While I'd love a dominant D and running game, I would still rather have a legit franchise QB.
Good thing you're not a coach or work in the front office. Romo would have gotten paralyzed.
 

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No. How about they don’t say anything at all? Is that possible? How about they shut up and do their jobs? I know that’s impossible to believe in this day and age but it can happen. I don’t recall anyone complaining when they didn’t have anything to say, that’s normally considered a good thing. “Lol...SMH, SMH, SMH” :rolleyes:

Man...

I didn’t think this would be controversial in the slightest. It seems like a message to Dak “Now is our time....to step up as leaders”

Maybe just maybe it’s because we have parted ways with the two offensive players with the most tenure over the past month?

He isn’t making any guarantees, he isn’t calling anyone out...probably just thinking about the upcoming season, getting excited about the possibilities and sharing it with his fans/best friend.

Heck Tony Romo posted a video/movie clip saying we were going to “win the whole damn thing” after returning from an injury to a team that just lost several games in a row. This is just fun for these guys.
 

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What the heck are you talking about. Dak was taking some serious shots in the Raven’s game, especially in the first half. He was getting hit early and often. Romo’s Houdini act wouldn’t have gotten him out of the hits Dak was taking. In 2016 the team was healthy and the coaches game planned well etc. and Dak played Awesome. In 2017 the O line was injured and the coaches game planned poorly, and had no in game adjustments at times and Dak didn’t play as well. If the coaches do their job and the O line stays healthy Dak will play Excellent again this year. You can call blame who ever you want, but when Dak threw to Dez he was almost always covered. He barely completed 50% of his passes to Dez. This O will be better without Dak feeling pressure to throw to the always covered Dez. If Garrett improves his coaching, including getting rid of his predictable coaching tendencies, and the O line stays healthy, Dak will resort back to his 2016 form.

Like I said, it wasn't worth the response. You're mind isn't open.
 

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Antonio Ramiro's thoughts on garrett's coaching can easily be determined by the number of this he shouted out "kill, kill" during a game. as for zeke, I wish there would be a loud speaker system installed at at&t that said "feed me" after every good run, first down, or td. he's a big kid at heart playing a man's game. gotta love him.
 
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